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The accords were an exercise in can-kicking while appearing to do something. Rather like Kyoto and Paris.

Showing 1/3 are Hamas media personnel doesn't show the other 2/3 are legitimate journalists.

The point is the numbers line up if you assume ministry of health counts bodies and reports civilian dead, Hamas reports total dead and Israel has a reasonably accurate toll of dead combatants. Ignore what Netanyahu is saying about ratios, he's a politician, expect everything to be a bit...

Or that this is a video that conveniently starts in the middle of the action, omitting important bits.

It surprised me that they were able to do the polling, but the answers to some of the questions certainly don't look like Hamas is rigging them.

And you believe everything they say. I'm saying you need to examine them with a critical eye, look for inconsistencies. Because they often are there.

And we have evidence that the problem is not Hamas rather than Israel?? And when you're in Gaza you had better say what Hamas wants you to say.

You don't get it--you want to believe that Israel's targeting is indiscriminate but the fact that they hit combatants a very disproportionate amount of the time says it's not. Thus one's first assumption in a case like this is that these guys were observed shooting.

Well, they are no longer including the image that clearly revealed their deception. Even those images, though--that hole in the roof isn't as obviously wrong as the view from the other side but it's still pretty difficult for anything not heading straight down.

And once again you don't recognize the unpleasant reality of war: that you act to minimize civilian casualties but that hitting human shields is not a violation of Geneva. And, once again, the idea that Jews are expendable. Just because they can't kill all the Jews it's not a deadly threat.

In other words, you have no answer and are trying to handwave away unpleasant reality.

To grab it the Palestinians would have to declare statehood. That's something they will not do because that either leaves them with defining land that's not part of Palestine or it leaves it totally obvious that they want a one state with them in control. I'm saying that no Arab nation would...

And once again you derail rather than address the issue. What's not balanced?

I'm not saying Israel always chooses the best options. I'm saying their track record is far above second place, but you consider it unacceptable. And note that you aren't addressing my point one bit. You're still claiming there's something better, despite there not being a whiff of evidence...

Is ethnic cleansing that doesn't remove everyone not ethnic cleansing? Just because they can't do it all at once doesn't change the nature of the act.

Note that I said "nuclear", not "red".

I don't think we are disagreeing on what happened. It's a wildly unexpected result from behavior that in the general case is helpful.

It never would have worked. Saying his assassination stopped peace is just an attempt to pin it on the Jews. And I don't agree with him. I think it comes down to which side forces matters. You are basically saying that the side who piles up enough human shields should be given control. I...

Sorry, but reality sometimes offers only extremely unpalatable choices. Doesn't mean you get to not choose.

Simplified. Standard tactics for Hamas members who think they're being targeted is to get amongst civilians. And when Israel calls ahead to get a building evacuated Hamas has been known to order the neighbors to run to the rooftop. Some years back a whole bunch got killed that way--they were...