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Mass shooting in Norway: Muslim shoots up a gay bar ahead of pride parade

Even in a secular, socialist country like Norway, there can be occasional problems. This is why the fight against toxic masculinity, conservative ideology, and other forms of hate needs to be an on-going struggle. Trying to reduce the overall number of automatic weapons on the streets is only a small part of the fight. A determined person can occasionally get automatic weapons into their hands, even if the probability is less and so other factors such as attitudes of hatred also have to be part of the fight. Likewise immigration controls somewhat misses the mark, if you consider that there is also hate against immigrants and others who can be different for whatever reason at all--gay, not the right religion whatever the religion is, female, trans, not the right ethnicity or race. Racists against immigration have been screaming about Western values, but that also isn't really true--look at Islamo-Judeo-Christian values, for example and Clarence Thomas's recent revealing of the ultimate direction of that part of Western culture. It isn't Western values wholesale that need support but instead values that can be present in any society, such as acceptance of differences, rejection of hierarchies placed on groups of people, advancing freedom and opportunity to find happiness, and stopping the marketing of violence for profit and power.
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. If you’re going xenophobe, why fuck around? We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Maybe legalise drunk driving because a ban of it fails to prevent drunk drivers from killing other road users.
Your response might make sense if Derec had suggested getting rid of gun control, but he didn't.
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. If you’re going xenophobe, why fuck around? We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
How does your suggestion follow from Derec's post?
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Maybe legalise drunk driving because a ban of it fails to prevent drunk drivers from killing other road users.
Your response might make sense if Derec had suggested getting rid of gun control, but he didn't.
With which part of "The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself" do you have a comprehension problem?
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. If you’re going xenophobe, why fuck around? We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
How does your suggestion follow from Derec's post?

Remedial English, much?
Derec is, as usual complaining about “The Others”. I’m offering helpful tips on how to protect himself. RW snowflakes need all the protection they can get, from The Others.
Get someone to read it to you.
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Maybe legalise drunk driving because a ban of it fails to prevent drunk drivers from killing other road users.
Your response might make sense if Derec had suggested getting rid of gun control, but he didn't.
With which part of "The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself" do you have a comprehension problem?
I can't read the article as it's behind a paywall, but even if it were not, did the article suggest that semi-automatic weapons should be unbanned?
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. If you’re going xenophobe, why fuck around? We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
How does your suggestion follow from Derec's post?

Remedial English, much?
Derec is, as usual complaining about “The Others”. I’m offering helpful tips on how to protect himself. RW snowflakes need all the protection they can get, from The Others.
Get someone to read it to you.
I can read, Elixir, and I can reason. Nothing you wrote follows from Derec's comment. It's a blatant smear tactic.
 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. If you’re going xenophobe, why fuck around? We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
How does your suggestion follow from Derec's post?

Remedial English, much?
Derec is, as usual complaining about “The Others”. I’m offering helpful tips on how to protect himself. RW snowflakes need all the protection they can get, from The Others.
Get someone to read it to you.
I can read, Elixir, and I can reason. Nothing you wrote follows from Derec's comment. It's a blatant smear tactic.
And?
 
The OP is just another example of poor reasoning: someone of demographic _____ commits some horrific crime, so we should ban people of the same demographic ______. Interestingly, I can not recall any such OP from Derec when the perpetrator of some horrific crime is a white male.
 
The OP is just another example of poor reasoning: someone of demographic _____ commits some horrific crime, so we should ban people of the same demographic ______.
In what universe did Derec ask to 'ban' 'demographic ___'?

 
Norway Mass Shooting Is Being Investigated as Terrorism, Police Say

The article mentions a ban on "semi-automatic weapons" which nevertheless failed to prevent the Muslim terrorist from arming himself.
Maybe Norway (and rest of Europe) should consider immigration controls in addition to gun control.
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. If you’re going xenophobe, why fuck around? We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
How does your suggestion follow from Derec's post?

Remedial English, much?
Derec is, as usual complaining about “The Others”. I’m offering helpful tips on how to protect himself. RW snowflakes need all the protection they can get, from The Others.
Get someone to read it to you.
I can read, Elixir, and I can reason. Nothing you wrote follows from Derec's comment. It's a blatant smear tactic.
And?
So, on this board, it's okay to falsely imply somebody's position on immigration is on the path to genocide?

Maybe Elixir wasn't just making false implications for dramatic effect. Maybe his reasoning really is that poor. Maybe he thinks that my stance - "I don't like tomatoes so I'm not going to buy them and put them in my fridge" leads to "execute all tomatoes".
 
So, on this board, it's okay to falsely imply somebody's position on immigration is on the path to genocide?
I am surprised such a pendant as yourself would mke the mistake that Muslim is a race, or ethnic group. Since they are not, killing all of them is not genocide. Just to be clear - I am not endorsing any killing of anyone.

Elixir was obviously using a satiric response to make a point. Duh.
 
So, on this board, it's okay to falsely imply somebody's position on immigration is on the path to genocide?
I am surprised such a pendant as yourself would mke the mistake that Muslim is a race, or ethnic group.
I didn't.

Since they are not, killing all of them is not genocide.
Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people — usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group — in whole or in part.



 
So, on this board, it's okay to falsely imply somebody's position on immigration is on the path to genocide?
I am surprised such a pendant as yourself would mke the mistake that Muslim is a race, or ethnic group.
I didn't.

Since they are not, killing all of them is not genocide.
Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people — usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group — in whole or in part.



I learned something new. Thank you.
 
In what universe did Derec ask to 'ban' 'demographic ___'?
This one. Glad to be of help. You know, despite the rumours that you are alleged to be a lying piece of shit.

Allegedly of course. And clearly you are smart enough to realise that I didn't actually accuse you of anything. All I very merely did was imply that there are rumours that you are a lying piece of shit.

See how that works? Take all the time you need, mate.
 
Or maybe just execute all Muslims. ... We all know that Xtian mass murderers are SO much less scary. That’s why we cultivate them en masse here in the land of the assault rifle.
How does your suggestion follow from Derec's post?
I can help you out with that one...

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