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Dershowitz denies sexual assault allegations

 
 
 
Why is Dershowitz one of the biggest scumbags in America?
 
I think that women will be less interested in this sex tape (if it exists) than the Rob Lowe one.
 
Reading the article is a good place to start.

Then, the comments following.

There is at least one about his disgraceful debate with Norman Finkelstein about his (Dershbag's) plagiarized book.

The current thing would be a nice topping, but I'm not sure personally about the "allegations."

I think he did know Jeffrey Epstein before the trial, and knowing him, quite possibly at least met the sex slave... but that's attorney client privilege now.
 
ksen said:
Why is Dershowitz one of the biggest scumbags in America?
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He is a liberal who supports Israel and has also expressed other non party line opinions so the True Believers hate him as a traitor.
This woman though sounds like a pathological liar. She claims that she met the queen but there is no record of it. She is also accusing some royal duke.
Regardless of the facts she will be embraced by the "women don't lie about rape" crowd.
 
Derec, we agree about the flimsiness of the allegations, but the other stuff you write is just stringing cliches together.

The fact is Dershbag plagiarized his book, this was exposed by Finkelstein and Dershbag responded by having Finkelstein lose his job.

Regarding the woman, she was in fact held as a sex slave by Epstein (since he pleaded guilty) and I'm assuming Dershbag and he are friends since Dershbag was on his legal team (also kind of a scumbag thing to do).

Therefore, there is a certain amount of credibility in the fact that he is included in the allegations.
 
12 men or some mixture of men and nutty women?

Epstein got a sweet plea deal, hopefully this will be some winter entertainment at least.
 
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Derec, we agree about the flimsiness of the allegations, but the other stuff you write is just stringing cliches together.
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No. Your attack on Dershowitz here even though you do not think the charges are credible as well as insisting on calling him "Dershbag" is evidence that it's not just cliches I am stringing.
The fact is Dershbag plagiarized his book, this was exposed by Finkelstein and Dershbag responded by having Finkelstein lose his job.
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No, the terrorism apologist Norman Finkelstein accused Dershowitz of plagiarism but a Harvard inquiry found no plagiarism took place. Also he didn't lose his job but was denied tenure.
Regarding the woman, she was in fact held as a sex slave by Epstein (since he pleaded guilty) and I'm assuming Dershbag and he are friends since Dershbag was on his legal team (also kind of a scumbag thing to do).
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The crime he plead guilty to was "procuring for prostitution" related, not keeping somebody in sex slavery. Very different things. Also, innocent people plead guilty if they think there is a high likelihood they will be convicted anyway. Ironically, Alan Dershowitz himself commented on that on CNN in reference to another case (the one covered in the Serial podcast). Just look at the case of Brian Banks, who plead guilty to a rape that never happened.

Therefore, there is a certain amount of credibility in the fact that he is included in the allegations.
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Hardly. Virginia Roberts seems to take the "spray and pray" approach to making allegations.
 
Derec, suffice it to say that the Harvard inquiry was a joke. The Dershbag Finkelstein debates are available on youtube. Dershbag was totally incoherent in those debates and the evidence is quite obvious.

Dershbag was Epstein's lawyer and of course the crime he pleaded guilty to was a lesser crime than he would have been convicted (or at least tried) for.

Finally, "sex slavery" has a bad reputation, usually it is consensual. It is bad if a minor is involved.

Regarding the case, since I've posted this and looked at some other items it seems at least credible. A rich guy generally has a lot of friends, even Clinton. The allegations include the fucking Duke of York in addition to Dershbag, and they both seem to be close friends of Epstein. Had the girl been making grotesquely fabricated observations why are the parties actually people who could have used her? Why include Dershbag, who is hardly a real famous guy. Probably still a little flimsy but not as flimsy as it might seem at first glance.
 
semiopen said:
Derec, suffice it to say that the Harvard inquiry was a joke.
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Why? Because a Hamas sympathizer said there was plagiarism?

The Dershbag Finkelstein debates are available on youtube. Dershbag was totally incoherent in those debates and the evidence is quite obvious.
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Even if he was "incoherent" how does that prove plagiarism?
Dershbag was Epstein's lawyer and of course the crime he pleaded guilty to was a lesser crime than he would have been convicted (or at least tried) for.
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And lawyers always partake in crimes their clients are accused of?

Finally, "sex slavery" has a bad reputation, usually it is consensual. It is bad if a minor is involved.
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If it is consensual it is not slavery and should not be referred to as such.

Regarding the case, since I've posted this and looked at some other items it seems at least credible. A rich guy generally has a lot of friends, even Clinton. The allegations include the fucking Duke of York in addition to Dershbag, and they both seem to be close friends of Epstein. Had the girl been making grotesquely fabricated observations why are the parties actually people who could have used her?
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If she was Epstein's hooker she could have easily found out who his friends were.
Why include Dershbag, who is hardly a real famous guy. Probably still a little flimsy but not as flimsy as it might seem at first glance.
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I don't know. Perhaps Pinkelstein put her up to it to settle the old tenure score. Perhaps his outspokenness on various issues (including false or unproven rape allegations) rubbed her the wrong way - he is on TV a lot. Perhaps she saw a Jewish sounding name and is an antisemite. To quote Hillary, "at this point, what difference does it make?"
 
Derec, Finkelstein has a book that meticulously details every passage and footnote that was plagiarized. Dershbag's defense (I think) was that he had no knowledge of this because his college student helpers somehow accidentally did this. It's pretty obvious that it was plagiarism.

Personally, I'm not the best looking guy in the world but I'm an Adonis compared to Dershbag, who would make a deep run into the finals of an ugly celebrity reality show. Anyway, I have my doubts that money changed hands which makes prostitution unclear.

Pinkelstein? You need a little more practice to challenge me in that area... maybe Tinkelstein.
 
semiopen said:
Derec, Finkelstein has a book that meticulously details every passage and footnote that was plagiarized. Dershbag's defense (I think) was that he had no knowledge of this because his college student helpers somehow accidentally did this. It's pretty obvious that it was plagiarism.
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This is an academic matter and an academic investigation found that it wasn't plagiarism. I'd take Harvard's word for it over an enemy with an ax to grind.

Personally, I'm not the best looking guy in the world but I'm an Adonis compared to Dershbag, who would make a deep run into the finals of an ugly celebrity reality show.
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Relevance?

Anyway, I have my doubts that money changed hands which makes prostitution unclear.
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In any case I do not think there is anything wrong with prostitution per se. The sex workers should be 18 though (yes, higher than general age of consent I favor but clients should not be prosecuted unless they knew the workers were underage).
Pinkelstein? You need a little more practice to challenge me in that area... maybe Tinkelstein.
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Pinkelstein means "peeing stone" in German. I thought that was a pretty good pun. Scheissenstein would have been better fit for his personality but is not similar enough to Finkelstein.
 
Leave it to Semiopen to bring this crap to the table. You want to know why Finkelstein is a liar. Because when he published his book he could not use the word plagiarize nor did he say Dershowitz did not write the book in question as did in the original manuscript and in public appearances. The reason they were removed by the publisher is there is no evidence to back them up.
 
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