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Pentagon declassified report on Iraq WMDs

 
 
 
Every mother fucker in that administration knew there were no WMDs in Iraq. Who the fuck is kidding who? This was an oil war under the guise of Iraq having WMDs. That's fucking all.
 
We have seen the same thing with the Sarin gas attack in Syria where the Obama administration lied about Assad being behind it. Had Putin not stepped in we would have probably seen the US bomb Syria in an attempt to oust Assad
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/07/the-collapsing-syria-sarin-case/
The only publicly available evidence implicating the Syrian government was a “vector analysis” produced by Human Rights Watch and the New York Times retracing the flight paths of the two recovered rockets to where their azimuths intersected 9.5 kilometers away at a Syrian military base.

When this analysis was touted last September – including a front-page story in the Times – it was considered the “slam-dunk” proof of the Syrian government’s guilt. Pretty much everyone in the U.S. news media, including many ambitious bloggers, climbed onto the bandwagon and laughed at anyone who wasn’t onboard.

However, the “vector analysis” soon fell apart. First, the rocket that struck Moadamiya, south of Damascus, had clipped a building on the way down so the UN calculation of its azimuth was highly unreliable. Plus, the rocket was found to contain no Sarin, making its inclusion in the vectoring of two Sarin-laden rockets nonsensical.

Even more devastating to the HRW-NYT analysis was the fact that when leading rocket scientists analyzed the capabilities of the home-made device that landed in Zamalka, they concluded that it had a maximum range of about 2 to 3 kilometers, less than one-third the required distance. U.S. intelligence experts, such as former CIA analyst Larry Johnson, also noted that the two recovered rockets were not part of the Syrian military’s Order of Battle
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We also saw it with the shooting down of MH17, which was probably done by a faction of the Ukrainian army under Ihor Kolmoiskyi.

The US decides who it wants in power and thus how they can control resources and then lies in order to achieve that aim.

These days we see again and again "government assessments" rather than "intelligence assessments" because although those in power are corrupt the American intelligence services contain many honest uncorrupted men and women, who will not sign their name to lies.

When you see the administration promoting a "government assessment" you can know it is because they can't get intelligence officers to sign off on their lies.
 
Will Wiley said:
We have seen the same thing with the Sarin gas attack in Syria where the Obama administration lied about Assad being behind it. Had Putin not stepped in we would have probably seen the US bomb Syria in an attempt to oust Assad
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You are aware that the whole point of that exercise was to eliminate the WMDs that Syria did actually have and prevent them from getting in the hands of ISIS, right?
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Will Wiley said:
We have seen the same thing with the Sarin gas attack in Syria where the Obama administration lied about Assad being behind it. Had Putin not stepped in we would have probably seen the US bomb Syria in an attempt to oust Assad
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You are aware that the whole point of that exercise was to eliminate the WMDs that Syria did actually have and prevent them from getting in the hands of ISIS, right?
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Shhhh .... Russia good. US bad. Nothing else matter.
 
Will Wiley said:
We have seen the same thing with the Sarin gas attack in Syria where the Obama administration lied about Assad being behind it. Had Putin not stepped in we would have probably seen the US bomb Syria in an attempt to oust Assad
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You've got it backwards. Assad most likely was responsible for the Sarin gas attack, but Obama didn't really want to get mired in yet another quagmire. But U.S. had set chemical weapons as a red line so when Assad resorted to using them, that put Kerry and Obama in a bind: had they flip-flopped and done nothing, they'd have appeared weak both domestically and internationally. That's why they jumped on the Russian proposal that let them save face.

Just think about it: why would Obama fake evidence for chemical attack to justify bombing Syria, only to then take of the Russian offer in order to not bomb Syria? That doesn't make a lick of sense.

Will Wiley said:
We also saw it with the shooting down of MH17, which was probably done by a faction of the Ukrainian army under Ihor Kolmoiskyi.
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If you believe that, then you have no credibility to talk about US faking anything.

It's a nown fact that Iraq WMD info in fact was largely based on nothing. I didn't find the lies that Powell tried to peddle to the UN particularly convincing at the time, it was basically showing pictures of trucks and saying "there are WMD in these trucks, just trust us". Nobody at the UN was convinced either. The fact that Americans were largely convinced by this shoddy presentation didn't have as much to do with faked intelligence, than it did with the American people and the American mainstream media being gullible and easily manipulated.
 
Jayjay said:
You've got it backwards. Assad most likely was responsible for the Sarin gas attack, but Obama didn't really want to get mired in yet another quagmire. But U.S. had set chemical weapons as a red line so when Assad resorted to using them, that put Kerry and Obama in a bind: had they flip-flopped and done nothing, they'd have appeared weak both domestically and internationally. That's why they jumped on the Russian proposal that let them save face.

Just think about it: why would Obama fake evidence for chemical attack to justify bombing Syria, only to then take of the Russian offer in order to not bomb Syria? That doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Even though I concur with all rational people that Obama is the antichrist :P I don't think he personally plans false flag attacks :)

Obama drew a redline with his best John Wayne impersonation to please people. Turkey then, organised the sarin attack. It makes no sense that Assad would organise a chemical weapons attack with the UN inspectors there and after Obama's warning.

American intelligence picked up the evidence but as we see from the OP we have reached the dangerous situation where American administrations, despite having the very best intelligence and the very finest men and women providing it act on pre conceived plans rather than the facts their intelligence services provide.

Was Turkey Behind Syria Sarin Attack?

As intercepts and other data related to the 21 August attacks were gathered, the intelligence community saw evidence to support its suspicions. ‘We now know it was a covert action planned by Erdoğan’s people to push Obama over the red line,’ the former intelligence official said. ‘They had to escalate to a gas attack in or near Damascus when the UN inspectors’ – who arrived in Damascus on 18 August to investigate the earlier use of gas – ‘were there. The deal was to do something spectacular.

“‘Our senior military officers have been told by the DIA and other intelligence assets that the sarin was supplied through Turkey – that it could only have gotten there with Turkish support. The Turks also provided the training in producing the sarin and handling it.’

“Much of the support for that assessment came from the Turks themselves, via intercepted conversations in the immediate aftermath of the attack. ‘Principal evidence came from the Turkish post-attack joy and back-slapping in numerous intercepts. Operations are always so super-secret in the planning but that all flies out the window when it comes to crowing afterwards. There is no greater vulnerability than in the perpetrators claiming credit for success.’”
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I think if you reconsider you will find space to concede that your idea that Assad launched a chemical attack to provoke Obama is a little wild. He was about to feel the lords "furious anger" had not satan stepped in
 
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