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The beating of Tawon Boyd
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Derec
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Marijuana-induced paranoia most likely.
The outcome is tragic, but the police were forced to use physical force ti subdue him. He was definitely out of control.
The outcome is tragic, but the police were forced to use physical force ti subdue him. He was definitely out of control.
Sounds justified. A kick to the head can inflict serious injury. It doesn't matter why he was attacking the officer.
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There are other drugs which cause such strange effects. Angel Dust is still sometimes around. However it's not certain whether it was drugs. No doubt a full inquiry will be carried out.
Derec
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No doubt. But the girlfriend says they were drinking and smoking marijuana and marijuana definitely can cause paranoia in some people.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tawon-boyd-maryland-man-dies-three-days-after-fight-with-police/
My mother once had a psychotic episode (medical emergency). They sent an ambulance. She did resist a little bit, too, I hear as I wasn't there. It's a good thing they didn't send 3 police squad cars to deal with her instead of an ambulance.
When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything will get banged up when you use it.
BUT I have to admit that this is an improvement. They at least didn't shoot him and he was alive for 3 days. If we can just extend that a bit by using less brutal force and not dying up to many years, then it'd be a much better world.
Baby steps.
They should have let him inside so they could drive away without any violence.
So he was violent back to people beating him. So if medics had come along and were non-violent, he'd instead be non-violent.
My mother once had a psychotic episode (medical emergency). They sent an ambulance. She did resist a little bit, too, I hear as I wasn't there. It's a good thing they didn't send 3 police squad cars to deal with her instead of an ambulance.
When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything will get banged up when you use it.
BUT I have to admit that this is an improvement. They at least didn't shoot him and he was alive for 3 days. If we can just extend that a bit by using less brutal force and not dying up to many years, then it'd be a much better world.
Baby steps.
They should have let him inside so they could drive away without any violence.
So he was violent back to people beating him. So if medics had come along and were non-violent, he'd instead be non-violent.
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Uh huh. You think throwing stones is viable reason to shoot, so we already know where you stand.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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So can two punches to the head and he wasn't violent until the police were.
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I don't know the best and safe way to deal with someone in Boyd's condition. But it seems to me that 3 people ought to be able to contain the situation of a nonviolent (and he was not armed nor was he attacking anyone) without resorting to initiating violence.
I think this is another tragedy that is due, in part, to a lack of police training on how to deal with the mentally ill and the mentally unstable.
I think this is another tragedy that is due, in part, to a lack of police training on how to deal with the mentally ill and the mentally unstable.
There's a reason they use 5 to handle crazies and other combatant types.
laughing dog
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"They" did not "use" five people with Mr. Boyd. From the linked article
"Three officers at the scene tried to calm Boyd to take him in for an evaluation "
Derec
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How old/strong was your mother at the time? Tawon himself was a strapping young lad of 21.
Let him inside without him being handcuffed? I do not think they would ever allow that for safety reasons. Especially since they often have secondary weapons like shotguns in squad cars.
A bit short but otherwise well built I would say.
According to the family lawyer...
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Yeah, the cops didn't have 5. The point is that it takes 5 and they only had 3.
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So, according to you, the police mishandled the situation from the start.
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Derec
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Bipolar drunk lives down the street. He had a meltdown one night. Running up and down the street punching cars, screaming obscenities, banging on doors. Cops managed to reign him in without injuring or killing him and he was freaked out and very violent in his demeanor.
Huh, guess you didn't know.