Sessions: Jesus wants me to separate families at the border

[SLD]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...aking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296

A clear example of Christian family values, and another good reason to be an atheist.

I’ll at least give Franklin Graham and other evangelical leaders some credit for opposing this inanity.

SLD

 

[bilby]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...aking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296

A clear example of Christian family values, and another good reason to be an atheist.

I’ll at least give Franklin Graham and other evangelical leaders some credit for opposing this inanity.

SLD

It's a sad indictment of a person's morality, when they are expected to behave so badly, that their opposition to the taking of children from their parents is something for which they deserve 'credit'.

Normal humans oppose such things by default. I agree that it is unusual and remarkable to see Franklin Graham acting like a normal human being; But I stop short at suggesting that he deserves some kind of credit for so doing.

 

[Mumbles]

I'm pretty sure Romans 13 were previously used to justify separating black and Native children from their parents.

Makes sense - he's following in the footsteps of previous hateful slavers genocidal fools, and other known bigots.

 

[Random Person]

It should be against the law to arrest parents.

 

[steve_bank]

It wasn't just Sessions. On CNN I watched two on air anchors, Cuomo and Lemmon, quote the bible to support illegal immigration. Along with assorted guests.

So much for editorial objectivity. It was depressing to see this nonsense debate playing out on what claims to be objective and balanced news and compares itself to fox.

 

[Underseer]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...aking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296

A clear example of Christian family values, and another good reason to be an atheist.

I’ll at least give Franklin Graham and other evangelical leaders some credit for opposing this inanity.

SLD

Ah, so they decision to separate children from their families is the product of Christian "morals"?

I believe it.

 

[Derec]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...aking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296

A clear example of Christian family values, and another good reason to be an atheist.

I’ll at least give Franklin Graham and other evangelical leaders some credit for opposing this inanity.

SLD

So are illegal border crossers just supposed to be set free or what do you propose?

 

[Mumbles]

It wasn't just Sessions. On CNN I watched two on air anchors, Cuomo and Lemmon, quote the bible to support illegal immigration. Along with assorted guests.

So much for editorial objectivity. It was depressing to see this nonsense debate playing out on what claims to be objective and balanced news and compares itself to fox.

I don't see the issue - there have been many Christian s who deeply disagree with Session's white supremacism on biblical grounds, so when he uses Bible quotes to justify breaking up families, it's reasonable to use the Bible against him as well.

Also, "Separation of church and state" means exactly that - it's Sessions who is in the wrong here for using Christianity to cover his barbaric policies, editorialists are under no obligation to remain clear of religious statements.

 

[Derec]

I don't see the issue - there have been many Christian s who deeply disagree with Session's white supremacism on biblical grounds, so when he uses Bible quotes to justify breaking up families, it's reasonable to use the Bible against him as well.

Also, "Separation of church and state" means exactly that - it's Sessions who is in the wrong here for using Christianity to cover his barbaric policies, editorialists are under no obligation to remain clear of religious statements.

Yes, Sessions was wrong for using Bible as justification, but so are those who use the Bible to justify unlimited, unrestricted mass migration based on taking the story of Jesus' sojourn in Egypt out of context.

And enforcing the law against illegal border crossers is not "white supremacism". What do you want? Open borders? That anybody can come?

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

"If you cross the Southwest border unlawfully, then the Department of Homeland Security will arrest you and the Department of Justice will prosecute you. That is what the law calls for — and that is what we are going to do," Sessions said. "Having children does not give you immunity from arrest and prosecution."

Where exactly is he wrong?

It should be against the law to arrest parents.

Yeah, that is what people "against breaking up of families" in this case seem to be saying.

There should have more open immigration in the US. It is ridiculous how closed the US has made it. But that doesn't make the police officer's jobs go away when the laws are there and it is their task to enforce them. And being a parent doesn't make you immune from going to jail or being prosecuted or whatever for your crime. Doesn't make the parents morally wrong for what they've done, but they should fully expect laws that they know exist to come down on them regardless.

 

[Axulus]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...aking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296

A clear example of Christian family values, and another good reason to be an atheist.

I’ll at least give Franklin Graham and other evangelical leaders some credit for opposing this inanity.

SLD

So are illegal border crossers just supposed to be set free or what do you propose?

The family should be kept together and then sent back together to their country of origin. It's not that difficult.

 

[Axulus]

"If you cross the Southwest border unlawfully, then the Department of Homeland Security will arrest you and the Department of Justice will prosecute you. That is what the law calls for — and that is what we are going to do," Sessions said. "Having children does not give you immunity from arrest and prosecution."

Where exactly is he wrong?

It should be against the law to arrest parents.

Yeah, that is what people "against breaking up of families" in this case seem to be saying.

There should have more open immigration in the US. It is ridiculous how closed the US has made it. But that doesn't make the police officer's jobs go away when the laws are there and it is their task to enforce them. And being a parent doesn't make you immune from going to jail or being prosecuted or whatever for your crime. Doesn't make the parents morally wrong for what they've done, but they should fully expect laws that they know exist to come down on them regardless.

The prosecution part is completely wasteful and unnecessary in addition to being cruel in the case of separating children. Send the family back together to their country of origin. This isn't that complicated.

Of course, congress is ultimately to blame for creating this law in the first place and not passing a better law.

 

[repoman]

This immigration morass supplies cheap labor AND jobs for immigration/deportation industry AND red meat to look tough on immigration to voters that want a crackdown. Nationwide shell game.

The capricious random nature of deportation threats makes the illegals her keep their heads down and more compliant to shitty working conditions. That is why they are separating kids, to get more profits for employers of illegals.

True nationalists would jail the employers.

 

[Mumbles]

"If you cross the Southwest border unlawfully, then the Department of Homeland Security will arrest you and the Department of Justice will prosecute you. That is what the law calls for — and that is what we are going to do," Sessions said. "Having children does not give you immunity from arrest and prosecution."

Where exactly is he wrong?

It should be against the law to arrest parents.

Yeah, that is what people "against breaking up of families" in this case seem to be saying.

There should have more open immigration in the US. It is ridiculous how closed the US has made it. But that doesn't make the police officer's jobs go away when the laws are there and it is their task to enforce them. And being a parent doesn't make you immune from going to jail or being prosecuted or whatever for your crime. Doesn't make the parents morally wrong for what they've done, but they should fully expect laws that they know exist to come down on them regardless.

First, we're discussing what is really a misdemeanor at most.

Second, many women people with children are applying for refugee status as they're fleeing violence. Sessions, being an obvious bigot, has no concern for this either.

Third, this is actually not that difficult to deal with at least somewhat more humanely, which is what we were doing up until this white supremacist decided he wanted to toss out as many Hispanic people as he can. Sessions could simply, you know, not be a racist asshole.

Fourth, that third is not to say that Obama was great on this issue either, to be clear.

 

[laughing dog]

"If you cross the Southwest border unlawfully, then the Department of Homeland Security will arrest you and the Department of Justice will prosecute you. That is what the law calls for — and that is what we are going to do," Sessions said. "Having children does not give you immunity from arrest and prosecution."

Where exactly is he wrong?

You are focusing on the wrong aspect. It is wrong to separate children from the parents until the parents are convicted. Moreover, it is wrong to separate children from parents when the parents are seeking refugee status or claiming asylum. To my knowledge, no other country separates children from parents who are claiming asylum.

Steven Colbert had a good take on this last night - the clip is contained in this article (https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-colbert-schools-evil-jeff-sessions-on-the-bible-dont-bring-god-into-this). He ends it with "If we let this happen in our name, we are a feckless country".

 

[braces_for_impact]

I distinctly remember Loretta Scott King warning everyone about what would happen if a Klansman were put in charge of the Justice Department.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Send the family back together to their country of origin. This isn't that complicated.

That does make a lot more sense. Why is there a law to do anything other than that? What is it's stated reasoning?

 

[jab]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...aking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296

A clear example of Christian family values, and another good reason to be an atheist.

I’ll at least give Franklin Graham and other evangelical leaders some credit for opposing this inanity.

SLD

So are illegal border crossers just supposed to be set free or what do you propose?

The family should be kept together and then sent back together to their country of origin. It's not that difficult.

yep

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Where was all this Romans 13 shit when Obama was President?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Where exactly is he wrong?



Yeah, that is what people "against breaking up of families" in this case seem to be saying.

There should have more open immigration in the US. It is ridiculous how closed the US has made it. But that doesn't make the police officer's jobs go away when the laws are there and it is their task to enforce them. And being a parent doesn't make you immune from going to jail or being prosecuted or whatever for your crime. Doesn't make the parents morally wrong for what they've done, but they should fully expect laws that they know exist to come down on them regardless.

The prosecution part is completely wasteful and unnecessary in addition to being cruel in the case of separating children. Send the family back together to their country of origin. This isn't that complicated.

Of course, congress is ultimately to blame for creating this law in the first place and not passing a better law.

Yeah, clearly seeing this policy is new, this isn't exactly what the law dictates. But I love the whole, "We are just enforcing the law"... following orders... excuse. Jebus, our country is becoming pathetic. "I'd do the morally right thing, if only the law would allow me to. *puppy eyes*"