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Police kill about 3 men per day in the US, according to new study

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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/police-kill-3-men-per-day-us-according-new-study/

Police in the U.S. kill on average more than 1,000 men per year, or about three men per day. According to our estimates, police are responsible for about 8 percent of all adult male homicide deaths in the U.S. each year.


These estimates come from our study, published on July 19. We relied on novel unofficial data collected through Fatal Encounters, a systematic review of media and public records searches by researchers and journalists. Our team of sociologists with expertise on race and health, which includes Hedwig Lee at Washington University in St. Louis, used these new data to estimate Americans’ underlying risk.


Our analysis shows that risk of police-involved death is two times higher than indicated by official data sources.


The problems with official data
On July 21, police killed five people across the U.S. Dale Slocum, 56, was killed by police in Toledo, Ohio. Eliuth Penaloza Nava, 50, was killed by police in Anaheim, California. Melyda Corado, 27, was killed by Los Angeles police. Ruben Maya, 37, was killed by police in Fresno, California. Vincent James Ewer II, 39, was killed by sheriff’s deputies in Tucson, Arizona.


Despite in-depth news coverage, you might not find these names in official databases of police-involved deaths collected by the Bureau of Justice Statistics or the National Vital Statistics System. Police agencies are not required to submit information about killings to the federal government, and coroners often do not accurately classify deaths caused by police. Because police departments can choose whether to report these data, they often fail to do so. These gaps leave federal data on police killings – and thus the public’s understanding of these events – relatively thin.


Journalists, academics and activists have started independent data collection efforts to meet the shortcomings of federal data on police-involved deaths. Projects like Fatal Encounters, which leverages public records and media coverage in an attempt to document every person killed in an interaction with police, have made it possible to speak more precisely about the nature of police-involved deaths in the U.S.


These data allow researchers, for the first time, to reliably measure how often individuals die in interactions with the police and quantify racial and regional differences.


We used Fatal Encounters’ records of police killings documented between 2012 and 2018 to provide a new set of estimates for all U.S. counties by race. Fatal Encounters documented 9,795 police-involved deaths during this period. Men comprised 88 percent of the deaths.


After excluding cases in which police use of force was not the direct cause of death – generally suicides and vehicular collisions – we identified 6,295 adult male victims of police homicide killed over this six-year period, or about 1,000 per year.


By contrast, the National Vital Statistics System and the Arrest Related Deaths program record about 500 deaths per year, less than half of our count.


Police killings are common
Individuals in large, central metropolitan areas are generally at the highest risk of being killed by police, at about one death per year per 100,000 men.


However, about two-thirds of all police-involved killings happen in suburbs, smaller cities and rural counties. In rural areas, police are responsible for more than 10 percent of all homicides with adult male victims.

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Police in the U.S. kill on average more than 1,000 men per year, or about three men per day. According to our estimates, police are responsible for about 8 percent of all adult male homicide deaths in the U.S. each year.
And many of those 8% are responsible for the other 92% ...

On July 21, police killed five people across the U.S. Dale Slocum, 56, was killed by police in Toledo, Ohio.
Armed robber who stabbed a customer.
Eliuth Penaloza Nava, 50, was killed by police in Anaheim, California.
Armed suspect (brandishing gun at police) in a police pursuit.
Melyda Corado, 27, was killed by Los Angeles police.
Accidentally. Gene Atkins should catch felony murder for this one.
Ruben Maya, 37, was killed by police in Fresno, California.
Fired 50 times at police.

Vincent James Ewer II, 39, was killed by sheriff’s deputies in Tucson, Arizona.
Another pursuit of an armed suspect.

See, very bad hombres for the most part.
 
Funny. Developed nations are able to police themselves without slaughtering so many civilians.

What is different about modern America and communist East Germany that we are unable to police ourselves without having the police wantonly slaughter large numbers of civilians?
 
Funny. Developed nations are able to police themselves without slaughtering so many civilians.

What is different about modern America and communist East Germany that we are unable to police ourselves without having the police wantonly slaughter large numbers of civilians?

2nd amendment.
 
Funny. Developed nations are able to police themselves without slaughtering so many civilians.

What is different about modern America and communist East Germany that we are unable to police ourselves without having the police wantonly slaughter large numbers of civilians?

Gulags in communism countries
 
Funny. Developed nations are able to police themselves without slaughtering so many civilians.

What is different about modern America and communist East Germany that we are unable to police ourselves without having the police wantonly slaughter large numbers of civilians?

Communist East Germany had rigid gun control...gun ownership was completely outlawed for citizens, although they could do 1 day rentals for hunting. Repressive regimes do not like an armed populace....and I bet that in the event of the US becoming a Russian state run by the local Oligarch - the orange traitor - gun rights will vanish. In East Germany, the police had total power, and little resistance. The US is just fucked-up by the NRA and friends.
 
This statistic shows how ingrained the discrimination against men really is. because the police kill far fewer women per day - #menslivematter.
 
Novel unofficial data?

It is a dangerous job generaly dealing with dnagerous peole. I had a thread that showed multiple data sources showing that while balcks are at a higher risk of death in a police confrontaion, other groups are not zero.

With our rule of law people and neghbrhoods can not be swept without probable cause. Crime and violence exists because it is structural in ou system.

Police are at the very end of a chains of causation leading to a police confrontation. They deal with social failings without any power to change conditions. If you want to reduce death by police take personal responsibility for changing social conditions, otherwise it is status quo.

If you are putting cocaine up you nose you are funding crime police have to deal with as an obvious example.

While there are issues with race and excessive force, I am tired of hearing about the police. They are not the root cause.
 
Novel unofficial data?

It is a dangerous job generaly dealing with dnagerous peole. I had a thread that showed multiple data sources showing that while balcks are at a higher risk of death in a police confrontaion, other groups are not zero.

With our rule of law people and neghbrhoods can not be swept without probable cause. Crime and violence exists because it is structural in ou system.

Police are at the very end of a chains of causation leading to a police confrontation. They deal with social failings without any power to change conditions. If you want to reduce death by police take personal responsibility for changing social conditions, otherwise it is status quo.

If you are putting cocaine up you nose you are funding crime police have to deal with as an obvious example.

While there are issues with race and excessive force, I am tired of hearing about the police. They are not the root cause.
All of this is irrelevant to the issue of the average of 3 man kills per day by the police.
 
I am tired of hearing about the police. They are not the root cause.

Well, tough - you're going to hear a lot more until the police stop slaughtering those they are meant to protect.
That said, you're right, the police aren't the root cause...they are one of several root causes, the most basic of which is the super-abundance of guns in what should be a civilized society. Nonetheless, the police must be held accountable for their mass slaughter of US citizens. They also need to fix the inbuilt bigotry that slants the death rate so heavily toward black men, but that would be there without the guns.
 
Novel unofficial data?

It is a dangerous job generaly dealing with dnagerous peole. I had a thread that showed multiple data sources showing that while balcks are at a higher risk of death in a police confrontaion, other groups are not zero.

With our rule of law people and neghbrhoods can not be swept without probable cause. Crime and violence exists because it is structural in ou system.

Police are at the very end of a chains of causation leading to a police confrontation. They deal with social failings without any power to change conditions. If you want to reduce death by police take personal responsibility for changing social conditions, otherwise it is status quo.

If you are putting cocaine up you nose you are funding crime police have to deal with as an obvious example.

While there are issues with race and excessive force, I am tired of hearing about the police. They are not the root cause.
All of this is irrelevant to the issue of the average of 3 man kills per day by the police.

Whilw police are culpable in some cases, they are not the cause of crime and behavior. What is the root cause of crime and behavior requireng police? It has long been known there is a correlation between literacy and crime. It is convient to expect police to be perfect in cleaning up our soical messes and not offending our moral sensabilities. They make easy targets.

How many people die every year due to DUI? Where is the outrage and the demand for zero BAC while driving? Police are an easy target for moralizing. They do not have a big lobby like tobacco and alchohol. There is a correlation between alchol and domestic violence.

This is yet another self rightous moralizing thread. Targeting police does nothing.
 
Novel unofficial data?

It is a dangerous job generaly dealing with dnagerous peole. I had a thread that showed multiple data sources showing that while balcks are at a higher risk of death in a police confrontaion, other groups are not zero.

With our rule of law people and neghbrhoods can not be swept without probable cause. Crime and violence exists because it is structural in ou system.

Police are at the very end of a chains of causation leading to a police confrontation. They deal with social failings without any power to change conditions. If you want to reduce death by police take personal responsibility for changing social conditions, otherwise it is status quo.

If you are putting cocaine up you nose you are funding crime police have to deal with as an obvious example.

While there are issues with race and excessive force, I am tired of hearing about the police. They are not the root cause.
All of this is irrelevant to the issue of the average of 3 man kills per day by the police.

Whilw police are culpable in some cases, they are not the cause of crime and behavior. What is the root cause of crime and behavior requireng police? It has long been known there is a correlation between literacy and crime. It is convient to expect police to be perfect in cleaning up our soical messes and not offending our moral sensabilities. They make easy targets.

How many people die every year due to DUI? Where is the outrage and the demand for zero BAC while driving? Police are an easy target for moralizing. They do not have a big lobby like tobacco and alchohol. There is a correlation between alchol and domestic violence.

This is yet another self rightous moralizing thread. Targeting police does nothing.
The cause of crime and misbehavior is not relevant to the issue of the number of men shot per day by the police. Blaming the victims is stupid self-righteous blathering.

The police have an incredibly strong lobby and influence on public policy. Which is why so many of them get away with their misconduct which dishonors the vast majority of the police and causes the level of distrust in the community.
 
This statistic shows how ingrained the discrimination against men really is. because the police kill far fewer women per day - #menslivematter.


I'm surprised that you would mock BLM like that by applying the exact same argument they use when they conclude that the higher number of police-involved deaths of blacks than whites shows ingrained discrimination against blacks.

In both cases the inference is ignorant, because in both cases the group with more deaths are also the group committing more violent crimes.

Note, this does not mean that there are not instances of racist cops treating blacks differently, regardless of circumstance. It just means that aggregate stats showing more blacks shot by cops at a higher rate doesn't imply anything regarding such racism.
 
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Novel unofficial data?

It is a dangerous job generaly dealing with dnagerous peole. I had a thread that showed multiple data sources showing that while balcks are at a higher risk of death in a police confrontaion, other groups are not zero.

With our rule of law people and neghbrhoods can not be swept without probable cause. Crime and violence exists because it is structural in ou system.

Police are at the very end of a chains of causation leading to a police confrontation. They deal with social failings without any power to change conditions. If you want to reduce death by police take personal responsibility for changing social conditions, otherwise it is status quo.

If you are putting cocaine up you nose you are funding crime police have to deal with as an obvious example.

While there are issues with race and excessive force, I am tired of hearing about the police. They are not the root cause.
All of this is irrelevant to the issue of the average of 3 man kills per day by the police.

Whilw police are culpable in some cases, they are not the cause of crime and behavior. What is the root cause of crime and behavior requireng police? It has long been known there is a correlation between literacy and crime. It is convient to expect police to be perfect in cleaning up our soical messes and not offending our moral sensabilities. They make easy targets.

How many people die every year due to DUI? Where is the outrage and the demand for zero BAC while driving? Police are an easy target for moralizing. They do not have a big lobby like tobacco and alchohol. There is a correlation between alchol and domestic violence.

This is yet another self rightous moralizing thread. Targeting police does nothing.

I'm pretty sure that the society is inundated with moralizing about drinking while driving. There are several prominent non-profits that have been pushing for and effecting legislative changes in that regard.

Crime is at a relative low point. The problem people are discussing isn't crime, it's why police kill so many people in the US.
 
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