I don't actually think all men are creeps, but you can believe that if you want. I don't care. Die mad about what you think I think. Your regard for women and your reluctance to hold men accountable has nothing to do with me.
The vast majority of you are absolutely fine with the pain women and girls go through for millennia at the hands of violent men and men in positions of power to do anything about it who turn a blind eye. At even the slightest hint that some men might be experiencing discomfort at the #metoo movement, you cry like fucking little bitches. So fine, don't help, but don't fucking cry when what's necessary to make actual change in the world becomes painful for you. It doesn't have to be painful for you. No one particularly wants it to be, but if that's what it takes...
We're done making things comfortable for people who don't give a flying crap about half the human race. (Actually a lot more than half, but we're only talking about women and girls here.)
I don't think it's true that men turn a blind eye. I think it's the other way around. Men are almost always proactively working to prevent it. It's like a conspiracy of the patriarchy to prevent creepy men to creep or worse. Its just that non-creepy men can't be everywhere all the time and that it's going to be a problem even with the best efforts of decent guys. And that's what's common.
Add to that cultures (historical and contemporary) that are straight up sexist and misogynist. I'm not arguing against those existing.
What I'm trying to say is that the vast majority of men are actually decent and are willing to, at great personal risk, protect women around them.
I don't actually think all men are creeps, but you can believe that if you want. I don't care. Die mad about what you think I think. Your regard for women and your reluctance to hold men accountable has nothing to do with me.
The vast majority of you are absolutely fine with the pain women and girls go through for millennia at the hands of violent men and men in positions of power to do anything about it who turn a blind eye. At even the slightest hint that some men might be experiencing discomfort at the #metoo movement, you cry like fucking little bitches. So fine, don't help, but don't fucking cry when what's necessary to make actual change in the world becomes painful for you. It doesn't have to be painful for you. No one particularly wants it to be, but if that's what it takes...
We're done making things comfortable for people who don't give a flying crap about half the human race. (Actually a lot more than half, but we're only talking about women and girls here.)
I don't think it's true that men turn a blind eye. I think it's the other way around. Men are almost always proactively working to prevent it. It's like a conspiracy of the patriarchy to prevent creepy men to creep or worse. Its just that non-creepy men can't be everywhere all the time and that it's going to be a problem even with the best efforts of decent guys. And that's what's common.
Add to that cultures (historical and contemporary) that are straight up sexist and misogynist. I'm not arguing against those existing.
What I'm trying to say is that the vast majority of men are actually decent and are willing to, at great personal risk, protect women around them.
Sure, decent and willing in principle, but not so much in action. If they were principled in action, there would be just as many men at protests as women. There would be very few places where misogynist jokes could happen without a slap down.
The Weisswürste is very sympathetic on paper but making it a part of their life to fight and speak out and send that message to the Weisswürste that they will not tolerate disrespect of girls and women.
You might think it, but you don't think anything should be done to the point of making powerful white men uncomfortable.
Let's switch to racism for a moment. In Australia, the vast majority of white people are anti-racism and believe in equality in all things, but thinking it doesn't mean they do anything that could change the overall zeitgeist that doesn't work that hard to actually change anything.
But some Australians have started a trend that I love and I think it's a powerful movement that serves as an antidote to silence. From podcasters to youtubers to public figures and celebrities, they are starting their speeches and videos with the statement, "I'd like to acknowledge the original owners of this land."
Very simple, but at the start, automatically puts the idea of respecting Indigenous peoples in the minds of whoever is listening.
We can do this for racism, misogyny, and prejudice of all kinds. As it is, it doesn't matter much that the majority of men have no ill will toward women, sympathize with our fight, and would never in a million years be a creep much less an abuser, but the fact that 99.99999999999...% of the time, they are not saying squat to send a message to other men that disrespect of women and girls is unacceptable.
Abusers not only love that blank space, they take the silence as acceptance. This is important to understand. Abusers and bigots of all kinds believe that everyone else really thinks the way they do but are just pretending not to, or they're scared to speak because "tEh LeFt wOkEnEsS is trampling our right to free speech!" or some shit. (If they were smart enough to recognize that others don't always think the way they do, they might be entirely different people, more self aware.)
If you had a podcast, you could start every episode with "I'd like to start today's podcast with a message to girls and women, that you deserve respect and to live free from fear of harassment, inequality, and abuse. Also a message to men and boys that disrespect of girls and women is unacceptable and I will not tolerate it in my presence."
Or a message about POC, or a message about LGBTQ+, etc.
So hopefully I have described the "well meaning" silence of men who want to talk about anything else and, as this thread and others like it show, will say anything to shut down a woman's voice because they haven't figured out how to not take it personally, and very likely some even having good reason to feel attacked.
So that's what I mean when I say no one should care about powerful white men losing their power because they are so privileged as to make flippant, casual sexist comments a matter of a man's rights. When that kind of mentality is in powerful positions in society, is it any wonder that women and girls are abused every minute of every day? Is it any wonder in the US that a number of our states are working overtime to legalize executing women for having abortions?
So, sure, if something blatant happens in front of you, an assault or something, sure, you'll most likely try to do something and not run away and "not get involved." But the world is much bigger and complex than the blatant, obvious transgressions that anyone can point to and condemn. But those things don't just sprout up out of nowhere. They can't happen at the rate they do in a society that puts its collective foot down on the attitudes that give rise to widespread abuse.
So for the record, if you're here saying:
"it's not fair to individual powerful white men..."
"you're not being nice/attractive/accommodating, we won't help unless you smile..."
"even one instance of your movement causing pain to a powerful white man makes you wrong/a hypocrite/the thing you condemn..."
"#notallmen..."
"you hate men..."
then you, yes you, are the problem.
Stop telling women what to think or say or do. The Weisswürste flex is to bloviate your golden opinions on anyone around you, so recognize that you're not in charge of women or anyone else but yourself. That hubris you've developed through no fault of your own will be your downfall if you insist on clinging to it. And don't take it personally.
And just garden variety obliviousness, like in the Australia example I gave. Only a minority of white people there express prejudiced views. The rest are just living their white lives, holding anti-racist views on paper. But I love how some people there are showing how to destroy that.
I don't actually think all men are creeps, but you can believe that if you want. I don't care. Die mad about what you think I think. Your regard for women and your reluctance to hold men accountable has nothing to do with me.
The vast majority of you are absolutely fine with the pain women and girls go through for millennia at the hands of violent men and men in positions of power to do anything about it who turn a blind eye. At even the slightest hint that some men might be experiencing discomfort at the #metoo movement, you cry like fucking little bitches. So fine, don't help, but don't fucking cry when what's necessary to make actual change in the world becomes painful for you. It doesn't have to be painful for you. No one particularly wants it to be, but if that's what it takes...
We're done making things comfortable for people who don't give a flying crap about half the human race. (Actually a lot more than half, but we're only talking about women and girls here.)
I don't actually think all men are creeps, but you can believe that if you want. I don't care. Die mad about what you think I think. Your regard for women and your reluctance to hold men accountable has nothing to do with me.
The vast majority of you are absolutely fine with the pain women and girls go through for millennia at the hands of violent men and men in positions of power to do anything about it who turn a blind eye. At even the slightest hint that some men might be experiencing discomfort at the #metoo movement, you cry like fucking little bitches. So fine, don't help, but don't fucking cry when what's necessary to make actual change in the world becomes painful for you. It doesn't have to be painful for you. No one particularly wants it to be, but if that's what it takes...
We're done making things comfortable for people who don't give a flying crap about half the human race. (Actually a lot more than half, but we're only talking about women and girls here.)
"Your fellow creeps"--only makes sense if we are all creeps.
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Even if I did, they can just get over it. My comments are irrelevant to the wider issue and the complaints about them are just a convenient distraction.
I don't need to be nice for them to understand what's going on. I don't need to explain myself for them to understand what's going on. They don't have to like me or anything I say in order for them to understand what's going on. The things I say tend to be honey to flies no matter how much vinegar is in them.
For example, oftentimes I mention my belief that all men secretly want to be dominated by women, both in private one on one relationships and in the world and life in general.
Now, I have no desire to humiliate or ridicule anyone in this. I myself am not into this kind of thing either as a sexual activity or as a relationship balance. I have no desire to chain whip men or be treated that way myself. I don't even want to be in charge of anything. I'm a gadfly, neither a follower or a leader type. But I pass no judgement on those who are into BDSM, and in fact, I say kudos to people who find expression of their authentic selves and desires in a healthy, consensual way. I can't fathom some of the psychological aspects of this lifestyle but I can grasp that certain experiences offer some people something deeply - or not so deeply sometimes, it's all good - satisfying and even healing in some ways.
So I word it like that, all men, because I know it will raise the hairs on the backs of certain necks and verbally twist their nipples. Pun intended. Then they're in a different psychological state where they're prone to blurting out whatever stupid bullshit they believe or half formed defense they've developed and therefore put it out into the sunshine where it can be disinfected and/or earn them that sorely, though subconsciously, desired spanking.
Of course I do not believe all men secretly want to be dominated by women. But joking and nipple twisting aside, I'm also half serious. I think a hell of a lot of men would just love to say fuck off to any social expectations of them and just pls let the women take over so the guys who want to can quietly live in their authentic sensitive, thoughtful selves in whatever expressive form that should take without molestation from narrow, backward, bigoted patriarchal programming and bullying of others.
And now, if the target audience has read the first part of this post, it's possible that from here on out, they will make more of an effort to not react without taking a moment to reflect on the possible underlying fears and social conditioning at play before pouring words out of their mouths and keyboards.
No need to thank me. I'm happy just to be of service. Also, if you read this to the end, give me a rep. Thanks.
