ISIS’s origins in an Iraqi prison under the noses of their American jailers

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Isis: the inside story
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/11/-sp-isis-the-inside-story

One of the Islamic State’s senior commanders reveals exclusive details of the terror group’s origins inside an Iraqi prison – right under the noses of their American jailers.
Report by Martin Chulov


In the summer of 2004, a young jihadist in shackles and chains was walked by his captors slowly into the Camp Bucca prison in southern Iraq. He was nervous as two American soldiers led him through three brightly-lit buildings and then a maze of wire corridors, into an open yard, where men with middle-distance stares, wearing brightly-coloured prison uniforms, stood back warily, watching him.

“I knew some of them straight away,” he told me last month. “I had feared Bucca all the way down on the plane. But when I got there, it was much better than I thought. In every way.”

The jihadist, who uses the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed, entered Camp Bucca as a young man a decade ago, and is now a senior official within Islamic State (Isis) – having risen through its ranks with many of the men who served time alongside him in prison. Like him, the other detainees had been snatched by US soldiers from Iraq’s towns and cities and flown to a place that had already become infamous: a foreboding desert fortress that would shape the legacy of the US presence in Iraq.
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The surge worked.

Mission accomplished!

 

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Yeah, but read the article, not even I have, and I was the one who found it!


(But, yes, what the article says makes me sick in the stomach, and all I can think is GWB, you stupid, stupid fuck.)

 

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On the other hand, what's this?

“It’s not that I don’t believe in Jihad,” he said. “I do,” he continued, his voice trailing away. “But what options do I have? If I leave, I am dead.”

Is he an ignorant punk from NJ? Does he not know that jihad is a symbolic struggle from within and has nothing to do with chopping infidels? Heh heh. Obviously, this is a knowledgeable Muslim, who echoes the preaching of his clergy. Politics + religion. It's complicated.

Also, it wouldn't exist without the old ongoing animosity between Sunni and Shiite:

[...] an American occupation that he and many like him believed was trying to impose a power shift in Iraq, favouring the country’s larger Shia population at the expense of the dominant Sunnis.

 

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Is he an ignorant punk from NJ? Does he not know that jihad is a symbolic struggle from within and has nothing to do with chopping infidels? Heh heh. Obviously, this is a knowledgeable Muslim, who echoes the preaching of his clergy. Politics + religion. It's complicated.

He is a man who is disillusioned but trapped.

And you can't possibly know him.