Exposing Atheistic Myths

[Half-Life]

One common atheistic myth is that, "Things can exist without a cause! Radioactive decay has no cause!" Of course, this is a lie.

https://www.iop.org/resources/topic/archive/radioactivity/#gref

"Radioactive decay occurs in unstable atomic nuclei – that is, ones that don’t have enough binding energy to hold the nucleus together due to an excess of either protons or neutrons."

"It comes in three main types – named alpha, beta and gamma for the first three letters of the Greek alphabet."

"It initially escapes from the nucleus of its parent atom, invariably one of the heaviest elements, by quantum mechanical processes and is repelled further from it by electromagnetism, as both the alpha particle and the nucleus are positively charged."

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

 

[skepticalbip]

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In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

You are already stumped with the OP.

Radioactive decay does have a cause... insufficient binding energy. The uncertainty about the nuclear decay is exactly when any specific atom will decay but because of the causal response we know it will.

However, this has nothing to do with your "Things can exist without a cause!" whatever the hell you mean by that.

 

[Half-Life]

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In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

You are already stumped with the OP.

Radioactive decay does have a cause... insufficient binding energy. The uncertainty about the nuclear decay is exactly when any specific atom will decay but because of the causal response we know it will.

However, this has nothing to do with your "Things can exist without a cause!" whatever the hell you mean by that.

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

 

[skepticalbip]

... snip ...

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

You are already stumped with the OP.

Radioactive decay does have a cause... insufficient binding energy. The uncertainty about the nuclear decay is exactly when any specific atom will decay but because of the causal response we know it will.

However, this has nothing to do with your "Things can exist without a cause!" whatever the hell you mean by that.

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

Energy does not 'run out'. Many, many experiments have confirmed that energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted to different forms.

 

[Half-Life]

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

Energy does not 'run out'. Many, many experiments have confirmed that energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted to different forms.

So you do not believe the universe will ever end one day?

 

[skepticalbip]

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

Energy does not 'run out'. Many, many experiments have confirmed that energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted to different forms.

So you do not believe the universe will ever end one day?

I have no idea and I am more than fine with that. If I thought I knew all there was to know then life would be damned boring because of having nothing else to learn. Then again what exactly do you specifically mean by the universe ending? i.e. do you mean matter, energy, forces, space, and time just suddenly no longer existing?

 

[abaddon]

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

Sure. Say one true thing about atheists.

 

[Half-Life]

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

Sure. Say one true thing about atheists.

Intellectually lazy.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

Energy does not 'run out'. Many, many experiments have confirmed that energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted to different forms.

So you do not believe the universe will ever end one day?

Every reaction, every particle, every bit of energy is accounted for in our observations of reactions. There is never an event where energy or matter vanishes and is unaccounted for. Is that what you mean by end? If it isn't what do you mean? Do you mean it undergoes some kind of change? Is there some specific case where this change means "end" to you?

It may come as a shock to you but every particle and bit of energy that is you has been around forever in some form. The carbon and the nitrogen, iron, oxygen and a zoo of compounds were likely running around as someone else just yesterday. Today they are you. Tomorrow they may be a bird. Eons ago you were part of a dinosaur or a plankton. Do you not understand this? Have you never thought about it? Is there something that prevents you from understanding the common sense observational science that we see everyday?

You breathe, don't you? Lots of stuff being exchanged with other organisms and within an ecosystem. Are you unable to comprehend this? Is your scientific acumen really that lacking? Plants release oxygen from photosynthesis and you breathe in the oxygen. You expel carbon dioxide and plants use the carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide was you and now it's a plant. Do you think this kind of basic science is mysterious or flawed?

Have you ever heard of virtual particles? Do you know what they are? Do you know what hawking radiation is? These aren't the realm of geniuses, but rather common folk who can sense their environment, make measurements and formulate predictions. Do you think that when a rhino shits it disappears into the aether? Do you think that when you put out your garbage or flush the toilet it just disappears forever? Are you that naive or uninformed?

Is the universe something magical to you? Do you not think that stars are just like rhino shit and human feces, that they undergo physical processes, grand in scale but mundane in detail? Are you really that clueless?

I could go on for a while but I'll leave it at that. You have a lot of questions to ponder and answer if you have the courage and the curiosity, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[abaddon]

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

Sure. Say one true thing about atheists.

Intellectually lazy.

So you're baffled by that request. IOW got stumped.

To count as "true" it must be a description that's independent of your personal assessments. It must be objectively true. The request was not for a back-and-forth of opinions.

 

[atrib]

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In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

You are already stumped with the OP.

Radioactive decay does have a cause... insufficient binding energy. The uncertainty about the nuclear decay is exactly when any specific atom will decay but because of the causal response we know it will.

However, this has nothing to do with your "Things can exist without a cause!" whatever the hell you mean by that.

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

What prevents God from running out of energy?

 

[Copernicus]

... snip ...

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

You are already stumped with the OP.

Radioactive decay does have a cause... insufficient binding energy. The uncertainty about the nuclear decay is exactly when any specific atom will decay but because of the causal response we know it will.

However, this has nothing to do with your "Things can exist without a cause!" whatever the hell you mean by that.

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

Half-Life, your own myth about energy somehow running out has been busted already, so we can skip your straw man claim about atheists believing that radioactive decay has no cause.

You have invented a "myth" and attributed it to people who reject belief in gods. And you seem to have equivocated on the two different senses of "universe":

1) The observable universe.
2) Everything that exists, including things outside of the observable universe.

It is only the second sense of "universe" that most atheists take as something that exists without a cause. What makes them atheists is that they reject belief in supernatural beings called "gods", which most theists believe necessarily existed in order to cause there to be a physical reality at all.*** That is, theists hold to the same belief that you criticize atheists of:

"Things can exist without a cause!..."

For a theist, the things that exist without a cause are gods--beings of pure spiritual essence. Atheists tend to reject the existence of spiritual beings in general, but certainly gods in particular. For them, it is just all of physical reality that is uncaused. If you "expose" the atheist myth about uncaused things, then you are also exposing a theist myth about uncaused spiritual beings at the same time.


*** NOTE: It is not necessary to believe that a god created physical reality in order to be a theist, but most theists seem to believe that creation is a primary function of at least the monotheistic "God". There is no reason why eternal physical reality could not have also always existed alongside an eternal God that merely shaped and manipulated it into our present form of reality.

 

[atrib]

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

Energy does not 'run out'. Many, many experiments have confirmed that energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted to different forms.

So you do not believe the universe will ever end one day?

The universe will never end. Time will cease to exist. There is a difference.

Do you know why? Do you know what the words "the arrow of time" mean? Did you know that our universe is expanding, and that the rate of expansion is accelerating? What happens when you put these things together? Does it make your brain hurt?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Because it is pointed out by atheists that the universe has always existed. This is impossible because the universe has a finite amount of energy and will run out. If it was infinite, it would've run out already.

What prevents God from running out of energy?

Or Santa, or the Tooth Fairy? Maybe the answer to your question is "magic."

 

[Keith&Co.]

I think first of all, Halfie would have to explain why he thinks these are 'atheistic' myths?

Atheists are a very small fraction of the population. Nowhere near enough people or with enough clout to swing the consensus of any branch of science one way or another just based on ideology.
So, cosmology, biology, geology, all have mainstream theories that are accepted by the experts, whether those experts are atheists or theists, BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXAMINED THE EVIDENCE FOR THE CLAIMS.

The professional theists just don't try to use 'gods' in their examination and explanation of 'What Happened.'

And the professional atheists don't go home at night and ponder how a new discovery fits into their theology.

So, to expose an atheist myth, Halfie would first have to IDENTIFY an atheist myth.
"Science which can be explained without invoking a skybeast" is not atheistic. It's just 'science.'

And halfie lacks the chops to actually disprove science. He's yet to show that he even understands it.

 

[Keith&Co.]

In this thread, I will be exposing common atheistic myths. Anyone want to try to stump me?

Sure. Say one true thing about atheists.

Intellectually lazy.

Says the guy who read a headline about a survey and reported 'a study has shown.'

Says the guy who claimed Jesus said that samesex marriage is a sin.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Omigod, the OP is true. It's true. I've been wrong since I was 12 years old. Know what else? You really can create striped sheep by putting peeled sticks in their watering trough. I once was lost, but now I'm found, was blind but now I see.

 

[Politesse]

I see that your "Atheists" are a lot like your "Left". How can you regularly interact with people week after week of your life without getting to know any of them?

 

[fast]

Atheists barbecue kittens. That’s a myth. I think that’s a myth. That is a myth, right?

Hello.

Hello.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Atheists barbecue kittens. That’s a myth. I think that’s a myth. That is a myth, right?

Hello.

Hello.

That depends. By 'barbecue' to you specifically mean with BBQ sauce, or just any form of direct heat from active combustion?
Because that's more regional than universal.