To your point: From
Scientific law
Scientific laws summarize the results of experiments or observations, usually within a certain range of application. In general, the accuracy of a law does not change when a new theory of the relevant phenomenon is worked out, but rather the scope of the law's application, since the mathematics or statement representing the law does not change. As with other kinds of scientific knowledge, laws do not have absolute certainty (as mathematical theorems or identities do), and it is always possible for a law to be contradicted, restricted, or extended by future observations. A law can usually be formulated as one or several statements or equations, so that it can be used to predict the outcome of an experiment, given the circumstances of the processes taking place.
Laws differ from hypotheses and postulates, which are proposed during the scientific process before and during validation by experiment and observation. Hypotheses and postulates are not laws since they have not been verified to the same degree, although they may lead to the formulation of laws. Laws are narrower in scope than scientific theories, which may entail one or several laws.[3] Science distinguishes a law or theory from facts.[4] Calling a law a fact is ambiguous, an overstatement, or an equivocation.[5] The nature of scientific laws has been much discussed in philosophy, but in essence scientific laws are simply empirical conclusions reached by scientific method; they are intended to be neither laden with ontological commitments nor statements of logical absolutes.
We've moved way past falsification is how scientific thought progresses. In fact according to the article on Popper in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/
Popper’s final position is that he acknowledges that it is impossible to discriminate science from non-science on the basis of the falsifiability of the scientific statements alone; he recognizes that scientific theories are predictive, and consequently prohibitive, only when taken in conjunction with auxiliary hypotheses, and he also recognizes that readjustment or modification of the latter is an integral part of scientific practice. Hence his final concern is to outline conditions which indicate when such modification is genuinely scientific, and when it is merely ad hoc. This is itself clearly a major alteration in his position, and arguably represents a substantial retraction on his part:
This confirms what I said:
1. "Scientific laws summarize the results of experiments or observations,
usually within a certain range of application"
Usually within a certain range of application, absolutely, and Newton's Law of Gravitation was deemed
universal.
Newton's law of universal gravitation
Newton's law of
universal gravitation states that
every particle attracts
every other particle in the universe with a force which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton...al_gravitation
So, it's perfectly fine to change the scope of Newton's formula, that is, reduce it, but then it's not longer universal and therefore it's no longer the same law. The name, "Newton's law of universal gravitation", would be misleading.
2. "In general, the
accuracy of a law does not change"
In the case Newton's law of universal gravitation, the accuracy was changed. Before Mercury, it was thought perfectly accurate. After Mercury, it progressively became accepted as not accurate.
3. "As with other kinds of scientific
knowledge, laws do not have
absolute certainty"
Yes, and therefore, if scientific knowledge is at all knowledge, it's not knowledge of the real world. To know that p means that p is true, not that you're not certain that p is true.
4. "The nature of scientific laws has been much discussed in philosophy, but in essence scientific laws are simply empirical conclusions reached by scientific method; they are intended to be neither laden with
ontological commitments nor statements of logical absolutes."
To say that you know p is to say that p is as you know it, and thus this carries ipso facto an ontological commitment. If scientists don't intend laws to carry any ontological commitment, they should not pretend, explicitly or implicitly, that scientific knowledge is knowledge of the real world.
5. Popper’s blah-blah-blah
That's entirely irrelevant. Scientific claims that carry any ontological commitment are subject to falsification, like it or not. Science doesn't have to imply any ontology, but then claiming that science is knowledge of the real world does carry ontological commitments and is therefore subject to falsification.
Science has no epistemological privilege. The human brain has been tested by 525 million years of natural selection over the entire biosphere and science isn't going to beat that any time soon. All that science can hope to achieve is to improve the scope, reliability and precision of our beliefs. But the nature of scientific beliefs is absolutely exactly the same as the nature of any idiot's beliefs, namely, they are beliefs, not knowledge.
Clearly, you are unable to understand what I say. I don't remember you ever making any relevant comment.
EB
NOTE
And by the way, you never replied to my post here. So, here it is again. Try it:
Speakpigeon said:
fromderinside said:
Logic is derivative of language which leverages off human capacity to produce varied sounds. That it has some structure, also a human capability, in no way means it is fundamental to that capacity no more than that one to produce varied sounds. It is an invention in the same way a language by a tribe is an invention with little other meaning about human capacities than to demonstrate their variety and breadth.
And how do you think you immediately infer, without even thinking about it, that any one particular cat you see for the first time will have all the characteristic behaviours of cats: mewing, purring, etc. You don't know this cat. Yet, you will immediately believe it has a number of characteristic behaviours.
That's true of cats and it's true of just about everything you will look at. You will infer properties you don't actually know that the thing has on the basis of your experience of similar but actually distinct things. One particular cat isn't the other cats. Yet, you immediately infer it has all the properties you believe cats have.
For a scientist, you really understand next to nothing about human beings and reality generally. You're obviously a specialist of some sort, but you are an utterly incompetent thinker. You're not the only one, far from it, but you beat the competition hands down. You are dogmatic. You compensate for your inability to think by being dogmatic. That's a way of life for you. You breathe dogma in and out. You can't express yourself outside dogma. You are a very sad example of the stupidity of mankind.
EB
Looking in a mirror doesn't help you at all. Cats? Immediately? Without thinking? Really? My early memories contradict your assertions in that I knew nothing about cats when I first saw them so that eliminates instinct. Being around cats for some time lead to improvements of my ability to characterize them with little thought but that certaining isn't intuition. Rather it is the result of experience and learning-response process improvement as many psychologists as early as Thorndike determined propelled by the neural function of association and other capacities.
As for the rest you hold words like thinking as precious without understanding anything about what makes one come to some conclusion about a category called thinking. You glibly come to some conclusion that "you immediately infer it has all the properties you believe cats have". No you don't. You presume things based on extensive experience with living things that are totally wrong or inaccurate which you have taken to mean something you wish to argue about.
BS in BS out.
Can you confirm yes or no that you don't accept that we all immediately infer on seeing a cat we've never seen before that it will display the characteristic behaviour of the kind we remember from previous experience with cats?!
Yes or no?
EB