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Massive Demonstrations Happening In Iran

On a serious note, you'd think Fox news and republicans in General would be all over this since Iran leadership wants god emperor agent orange dead.
 
TSwizzle said:
Really? I can't say I have seen much in the news about it. Has President Brandon or the first lady commented? Has the VP made a statement? I'd like to see more from our institutions about how this is unacceptable.

I genuinely don't understand how the death of drug addled felon George Floyd gets people all worked up but this incident, not so much.
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President Biden not only supported the protesters vocally - in a speech to the United Nations, no less - but levied massive sanctions on the host nation and has been vigorous in trying to build a network to allow protesters communicate through their government's information blockade.

From the speech: "[The US] stands the brave citizens and brave women of Iran, who right now are demonstrating to secure their basic rights.”

They are, again, not just talking but actually doing something about it, in that way that centrist liberals find very natural to do, but that baffles conservatives.
 
Floyd was a trigger for the release of long building issues with balcks on policing. That would be another thread.
 
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steve_bank said:
Floyd was a trigger for the release of long buding issues with balcks on policing. That would be another thread.
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Swizzle doesn't see the connection between people in America protesting for basic rights and Iranians protesting for Basic rights. Swizzle thinks Iranians should be protesting for basic rights for blacks in America and Blacks in America should be protesting for Iranians for some reason swizzle can't possibly explain.
 


What does that mean? Sounds like we're lifting sanctions for things related to communicating over the internet?
 
Politesse said:
President Biden not only supported the protesters vocally - in a speech to the United Nations, no less - but levied massive sanctions on the host nation and has been vigorous in trying to build a network to allow protesters communicate through their government's information blockade.

From the speech: "[The US] stands the brave citizens and brave women of Iran, who right now are demonstrating to secure their basic rights.”
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Yea, it’s not much though, a one sentence acknowledgement slipped into a speech about Russia mostly. Sanctions, weren’t they already planned due to Iran’s support of Putin? Probably.
 
During the Seattle civil unrest an Ethiopian parade of devastators marcing past our building. Oe of them said they were protetsing aginst another faction back in Ethiopia.

Going back the Molly Maguires were an Irish activist group, the Irish faced bias. There was a famous riot in Brooklyn between Jews and blacks.

Protest, demonstrations, and riots are common in our history.

The question is how brutal the Iranian state will get before relenting or just crushing the protestors. In the 60s and 70s there were areas of the country where it was open season on blacks, and they armed themselves. Hoover as head of the FBI was trying to undemine balck protest groups.

Over here while we are still deling with remnants of racsim, the legal systems and lehislatures eventally resonded to the black protests..

I think Gandhi understood the Brits and gambled that there was a morl line they would nt cross in brutality. I don't think there are any limits to Iranian religious fanaticism. Iran has no rule of law. Blacks during the worse of it did have some legal paths.

I do not have hope for Iranian protestors.
 
TSwizzle said:
Yea, it’s not much though, a one sentence acknowledgement slipped into a speech about Russia mostly. Sanctions, weren’t they already planned due to Iran’s support of Putin? Probably.
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I find your sudden interest in women's rights and freedoms totally credible and not some bad faith shitty argument trying to own the libs.
 
Iran is a young country, in the demographic sense. They're the ones in the streets. Hopefully as this young generation ages and takes over the levers of power, Iran will become more free.
 
Gospel said:
steve_bank said:
Floyd was a trigger for the release of long buding issues with balcks on policing. That would be another thread.
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Swizzle doesn't see the connection between people in America protesting for basic rights and Iranians protesting for Basic rights. Swizzle thinks Iranians should be protesting for basic rights for blacks in America and Blacks in America should be protesting for Iranians for some reason swizzle can't possibly explain.
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Ahhhhh! I get it now. Had Kaepernick been kneeling over Iranian treatment of women... that'd been okay.
 
The Iranian prez just stated that chaos will not be accepted. The irony is strong in this one. /Darth Vader voice
 
Khamenei Supreme on Death's Door

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Circumstantial evidence suggests that Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is at least temporarily unable to perform his normal duties. Khamenei has been unusually absent in recent days amidst countrywide, anti-regime protests, which began on September 16. Rumors have circulated that Khamenei’s health has deteriorated significantly since early September.
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I predict that the Ayatollah's last words will be something like:

"Blame it... on... Israel... aaaaaarrgh".

Good riddance. Nobody will miss him.
 
Oleg said:
Iran is a young country, in the demographic sense. They're the ones in the streets. Hopefully as this young generation ages and takes over the levers of power, Iran will become more free.
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Uh, check with your supplier. Your dope level is getting up there. As a twenties something in the sixties I'm pretty sure youth activists don't make things better. My kids proved it again in the eighties, nineties, and two-thousands.
 
There was a poll in the Mid East and North Africa.

The majority,

1. Young people want religion and Islam.
'2. They do not want a theocracy.
3. They want what most people in the west want, opporunity and a future.
 
I like this: Alireza Nader علیرضا نادر on Twitter: "This is the real #Iran.
Compulsory hejab is not part of our culture. #IranProtests #Mahsa_Amini #مهسا_امینی (vid link)" / Twitter
Showing some women burning hijabs.

Yassmin Abdel-Magied on Twitter: "To be (hijabi) or not be (hijabi) is the business of no state or man. Solidarity with women resisting patriarchal control, the world over. 💪🏾" / Twitter

Here is one Western feminist who criticizes Iran very strongly:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Solidarity with the courageous women and allies in Iran protesting for their freedom.
Mahsa Amini was senselessly murdered by the same patriarchal and autocratic forces repressing women the world over.
The right to choose belongs to us all, from hijabs to reproductive care." / Twitter

Arsen Ostrovsky on Twitter: "You know who still has not said a single world about the #IranProtests or the #Iran regime’s murder of #MahsaAmini? That’s right, The Squad!
Why is that? I thought @AOC, @IlhanMN and @RashidaTlaib were all about supporting women’s rights? 🤔 (pic link)" / Twitter
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "@Ostrov_A This is completely false. Here is just one example from 9/21 of what I’ve been sharing on various platforms. Try checking your claims before you make them next time. We have been and continue to stand with the women of Iran fighting for their liberation ✊🏽 (vid link)" / Twitter
with what she Instagrammed:
Solidarity with the courageous women of Iran fighting for their freedom and liberation.

Mahsa Amini was senselessly murdered for challenging patriarchal and autocratic systems of control. From the United States, Latin America, Iran, and across the world, women and allies are rising up to confront and resist state systems of misogyny and abuse of power.

Bodily autonomy is about our essential right to choose and make decisions over our own bodies, from a hijab to an abortion. Our struggles are connected (fist)
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