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@zorq Not so sure about that. He disagrees with them on a lot of things. They might just impeach him.

To me, in the long view, the sad thing about a Trump loss is that the Republicans in the Senate and Congress will get to continue to act toward Hillary like they did to Obama, obstructionist and uncooperative. Oh, how I would love to watch them try to keep their party together and corral...

I have been furious with Mr. Martin for years now. I think the problem goes way back to the dedication in the second book, A Storm of Swords "for Phyllis, who made me put the dragons in" It went off the rails right there. It was painfully obvious by book 3 he was in deep shit. Book 4 only...

oh, so now we are all too stupid to have a discussion about ideology on this forum if we don't have a PHD? And I should shut up? And I am pushing things Bye

Okay, I see our disconnect. You see oppression of Muslims as similar to oppression of other ethnic minority groups. I see Islam as an ideology that is as totalitarian and authoritarian as fascism and Nazism and calls for the oppression of other people. The meta discussion Muslims are having...

The only thing I see in your quotes that could even be close to "stripping Muslims of their constitutional rights" is her discussion of shutting down Muslim schools. I don't see her saying property should be seized, they should not be allowed to vote, or to speak, or to assemble, ect. And she...

Yes you were on a break the last discussion I had with him. It is ad hom. It was meant to be. My point is that Warpoet took comments out of context, out of the context of Ali's experience and entire viewpoint. The point of Ali's that really brings it home for me is the difference...

To Jokodo and Sabine. What is your stance on ideologies in general? Can they be dangerous? Can the beliefs of individuals be dangerous? If they can be, then what is the appropriate action for society to take?

Religion based schools should go back to being something you go to after you attend public school. Not a substitute for primary education. I blame the Catholics for that screw up. And it was J.F. Kennedy who had to answer the anti-Papists when they asked if he was fit to be president...

Sabine, I don't hate people because they are Muslim. I don't treat them different when I meet them. I don't treat fundy Christians different when I meet them. Heck I dont even treat members of the Aryan nation different when I meet them. Or the American Nazi party. But to ignore what the...

You are mixed up. The flight of peasants to the cities didn't really happen until technology improved agriculture, making them unnecessary on the landed estates. They didn't really "run" to the cities, so much as were pushed off the land they used to work. If you go back far enough, you...

I took the time to fully read both the Sam Harris interview, and the original interview Warpoet alluded too. Things make a lot more sense in full context. http://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?757-islamphobia-http-www-samharris-org-blog-item-lifting-the-veil-of-islamophobia/page5 My...

Human nature. Once upon a time, we roamed the world freely. Then the idea of ownership of land came to be. Eventually, if you didn't have any land, you were forced to work for someone else. Capital is the new land. The same dynamics at work. People fight or work hard to OWN shit, pass...

Looking for input and references, reading material. Our brains are wonderful things. It seems to take multiple incidents, file them away, and then create generalized impressions. I have tried to boil them down into two states. Safe and Not Safe. Or in our modern world, Fear or Trust...

Good thoughts. In what situations do you assume leadership? How fast do you give up your attempt to lead if it seems you have no supporters? Would you follow someone just because everyone else decides too? This whole dynamic is curious.

Forget the current CEO thingy, and capitalism. Get in Mr. Peabody's wayback machine. We have always valued leadership above all other labor. But what is the human feedback for irresponsible leadership? Revolution? Coup? It seems to me being able to change leaders easily with little...

looks boring actually.

Our values are constitutional protections. If Islam doesn't value them, which it hasn't proven that it does, why should it get any value FROM them? There are other groups with similar problems. We frown on the American Nazi party too for many of the same reasons.

Except when you google Islam and democracy, you get 100 papers discussing whether they are compatible or not, and no consensus. If Islam in general is having issues with democracy and the idea of constitutional rights that don't come from Sharia, or are in some cases contradictory to Sharia...

That sounds best Tigers!. I find this stuff fascinating. I think I missed my career :) If you think about it one way, this is one of the most powerful influence individuals have on the masses; the invention of a new slang or usage that makes it way into the general language and sometimes...