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  1. Lion IRC

    Australian Conservatives Are Using Religious Faith as a Cover for Misogyny

    Dickish? Meh. Trolling? Nah. The quality of the discussion comes from robust contention and asserting/defending your position. It's a two way street. Muzzling one side of the discussion is the thing which disrupts threads. Asymmetric rules of engagement is what "degrades the quality of...
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    Luke as a modified version of Mark

    If you had a time machine and could go back and ask Luke/Lucius direct questions, how do you think he would answer; 1. Was Jesus scourged by the Romans? Probably yes or probably no? (Luke 23:22) 2. Why did the Jews take Jesus to Pilate? Didn't they have the ability to execute Jesus? (Luke 23:1)...
  3. Lion IRC

    Australian Conservatives Are Using Religious Faith as a Cover for Misogyny

    You mean crayons for all the kids who help make up the 25 million? Are they the non-working, non-voting audience you're aiming at whilst trying to give me a lecture about gross oversimplification of electoral stats? Are crayons needed for folks who can't tell the difference between re-electing...
  4. Lion IRC

    Australian Conservatives Are Using Religious Faith as a Cover for Misogyny

    A young woman gets a promotion to a government ministry position. ....and that's your evidence of misogyny? Yeah...that's why they re-elected a right wing conservative Christian. Scott Morrison wins the unwinnable election...
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    Roe v Wade is on deck

    No, I understand their jargon and semantics quite well. You realise that it's the empirical data in the study that I'm referring to not the opinions about what those facts might mean. They do not conclude that pain is impossible before 24 weeks. They conclude that there is a difference...
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    The Incest Problem

    What's the "Incest Problem"? https://theconversation.com/incest-isnt-a-taboo-in-the-animal-kingdom-new-study-160937
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    Why YEC can seem plausible

    Genesis 6:3 can be read as God prophesying that Pre-Flood longevity would soon come to an end. Well, that depends on how strictly you define incest and consanguinity. A lot of bible critics (who rant and rave about incest) simultaneously argue in favour of same-sex marriage saying how...
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    Roe v Wade is on deck

    Here's what it says.... Able to be detected as early as 6 weeks. Nerves. Sure. But so what? Call them whatever you like. They are sensory nerves endings. Note that these are described as being "specialised" for sensations. ...at 6 weeks. ...a living human. Note that "specialised for"...
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    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    We can walk and chew gum at the same time. It's not either/or. It's and/too. Inciting ppl to fire bomb abortion clinics churches is morally wrong because it endangers life in addition to whatever other property crime is being committed. If someone is responsible for "the deaths of hundreds (so...
  10. Lion IRC

    Roe v Wade is on deck

    Nope.
  11. Lion IRC

    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    Good points. There's enormous ambiguity surrounding concepts of native title. In .au there is plenty of inalienable native title 'ownership' of land which isn't freehold and on which there exists buildings that ARE legally owned by someone other than the native title holding entity.
  12. Lion IRC

    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    Here's one more reason inciting arson attacks - ON ANY PROPERTY - is wrong and illegal. "Man charged with murder after allegedly setting fire to warehouse where three squatters died"...
  13. Lion IRC

    Roe v Wade is on deck

    Yes, it does. That's why I cited it.
  14. Lion IRC

    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    Um...your deduction is wrong. I was agreeing with Toni who said.... "Within this thread, I see a lot of anti-Catholic Church sentiment..." Me saying there are "a few statements" is hardly a blanket accusation. I'm taking about the sort of post where someone says that burning a few churches...
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    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    One got deleted.
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    Roe v Wade is on deck

    Did you know abortion 'clinics' offer fetal anaesthetic? Can you guess WHY they do that? And you wanna know another dirty little secret about elective fetal abortion anaesthetic? Most women DECLINE the option. Bet you can't gue$$ why.
  17. Lion IRC

    Roe v Wade is on deck

    www.rcog.org.uk/globalassets/documents/guidelines/rcogfetalawarenesswpr0610.pdf
  18. Lion IRC

    Roe v Wade is on deck

    You know what science has done? It has totally undermined outdated pro-abortion arguments about when exactly a fetus is 'viable' outside the womb. Neo natal medicine has exposed the plain reality that premmie babies born at 22 or 21 weeks are living human beings. If you killed a premmie baby in...
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    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    Yeah. Me too. And, arguably, a few statements that might constitute incitement to violence in certain jurisdictions. If an anti-abortionist said the same sort of things about fire bombing abortion clinics they would get a visit from law enforcement. And rightly so. In Victoria, pursuant to...
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    Aboriginal Civil Disobedience

    Normally, I would be very much against burning down buildings, especially to make a point but... WOW. Never in a million years would I have guessed you had something in common with anti-abortionists.
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