367 House Members write open letter to Obama on Iran

[dismal]

Washington (CNN)—A veto-proof, bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have signed an open letter to President Barack Obama warning him that any nuclear deal with Iran will effectively require congressional approval for implementation.

A group of bipartisan senators have penned a bill mandating that any deal be reviewed and approved by Congress, but the House letter notes that lawmakers have another way to halt an agreement — by refusing to roll back sanctions.

"Should an agreement with Iran be reached, permanent sanctions relief from congressionally-mandated sanctions would require new legislation. In reviewing such an agreement, Congress must be convinced that its terms foreclose any pathway to a bomb, and only then will Congress be able to consider permanent sanctions relief," they write.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/23/politics/house-letter-obama-iran/

So, I guess the whole treason petition and threats from left bloggers about prosecutions under whatever that obscure act was that hadn't been used in 200+ years weren't enough.

Now the House is getting into the act of reminding people it matters too.

Also, I realize the last election didn't go so well for Democrats, but are there really 367 Republicans in the House?

 

[fromderinside]

Washington (CNN)—A veto-proof, bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have signed an open letter to President Barack Obama warning him that any nuclear deal with Iran will effectively require congressional approval for implementation.

A group of bipartisan senators have penned a bill mandating that any deal be reviewed and approved by Congress, but the House letter notes that lawmakers have another way to halt an agreement — by refusing to roll back sanctions.

"Should an agreement with Iran be reached, permanent sanctions relief from congressionally-mandated sanctions would require new legislation. In reviewing such an agreement, Congress must be convinced that its terms foreclose any pathway to a bomb, and only then will Congress be able to consider permanent sanctions relief," they write.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/23/politics/house-letter-obama-iran/

So, I guess the whole treason petition and threats from left bloggers about prosecutions under whatever that obscure act was that hadn't been used in 200+ years weren't enough.

Now the House is getting into the act of reminding people it matters too.

Also, I realize the last election didn't go so well for Democrats, but are there really 367 Republicans in the House?

Wow another action by the alarmist legislators for Obama to do what is already in the proposed treaty. Remind me to tell my democrat fundraisers to not use any my money to support these house rear pansies any funding next term.

What's funny here is that there is no way to stop Iran from achieving a bomb if they want one. There is just too much refined  U 235 out there to keep a significant power from acquiring one. Check out N Korea.

I'm pretty convinced that Iran wants the technology so it can participate in peaceful fission activity otherwise there'd have been significant activity on the underground uranium market already.

 

[ksen]

Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996

Sec 4(c) Waiver.--The President may waive the application of section 5(a)
with respect to nationals of a country if--
(1) that country has agreed to undertake substantial
measures, including economic sanctions, that will inhibit Iran's
efforts to carry out activities described in section 2 and
information required by subsection (b)(1) has been included in a
report submitted under subsection (b); and
(2) the <<NOTE: Notification.>> President, at least 30 days
before the waiver takes effect, notifies the appropriate
congressional committees of his intention to exercise the
waiver.

Sec 9(c) Presidential Waiver.--
(1) Authority.--The <<NOTE: Reports.>> President may waive
the requirement in section 5 to impose a sanction or sanctions
on a person described in section 5(c), and may waive the
continued imposition of a sanction or sanctions under subsection
(b) of this section, 30 days or more after the President
determines and so reports to the appropriate congressional
committees that it is important to the national interest of the
United States to exercise such waiver authority.

Congress gave the President the power to waive sanctions. So what's the problem?

 

[NobleSavage]

Obama should just proclaim what the doesn't want, "Under no circumstances will I negotiate with Iran." Then they will try and force him to do so.

 

[Horatio Parker]

Hasn't Iran been one year away from a bomb for 25 years?

 

[Axulus]

Does Germany, France, Russia, China and UK have to get US house approval as well?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Obama should just proclaim what the doesn't want, "Under no circumstances will I negotiate with Iran." Then they will try and force him to do so.

Wagstaff Doctrine indeed.

 

[untermensche]

Threats as an opening position.

When will we have a Congress made up of adults?

 

[Ford]

Threats as an opening position.

Considering many of them would want air strikes as an opening position, they're being rather restrained.

 

[untermensche]

Threats as an opening position.

Considering many of them would want air strikes as an opening position, they're being rather restrained.

The only area the US has any advantage over the world is in the ability to inflict violence.

It isn't smarter than anybody else. It doesn't hold any higher moral ground. It has no significant track record of success.

Is it no wonder the US wants all conflict to be resolved with violence?

And these war mongers in the Congress will not create peace with their threats and violence just as the invasion of Iraq didn't lead to peace. It led to ISIS and horror.

 

[arkirk]

Washington (CNN)—A veto-proof, bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have signed an open letter to President Barack Obama warning him that any nuclear deal with Iran will effectively require congressional approval for implementation.

A group of bipartisan senators have penned a bill mandating that any deal be reviewed and approved by Congress, but the House letter notes that lawmakers have another way to halt an agreement — by refusing to roll back sanctions.

"Should an agreement with Iran be reached, permanent sanctions relief from congressionally-mandated sanctions would require new legislation. In reviewing such an agreement, Congress must be convinced that its terms foreclose any pathway to a bomb, and only then will Congress be able to consider permanent sanctions relief," they write.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/23/politics/house-letter-obama-iran/

So, I guess the whole treason petition and threats from left bloggers about prosecutions under whatever that obscure act was that hadn't been used in 200+ years weren't enough.

Now the House is getting into the act of reminding people it matters too.

Also, I realize the last election didn't go so well for Democrats, but are there really 367 Republicans in the House?

If you believe peace would be a good thing and 367 sold out warmongers sign a petition trying to get us into another war, how can what they did be a good thing?

 

[Togo]

If Obama announces he's satisfied with the steps Iran has taken, then the rest of the world will normalise relations. If Congress want to block US dealings with Iran, legally they can do so, but who will care? There are plenty of other nations to deal with, many of whom can act as a conduit for anything that US citizens or firms want to do.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Now the House is getting into the act of reminding people it matters too.

Interesting that they chose to do so by receiving information about the negotiations from Israeli spies:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nd-shared-information-with-lawmakers/?hpid=z2

They certainly got my attention.

 

[ksen]

Why are we allies with them again?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Now the House is getting into the act of reminding people it matters too.

Interesting that they chose to do so by receiving information about the negotiations from Israeli spies:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nd-shared-information-with-lawmakers/?hpid=z2

They certainly got my attention.

Yeah... umm... okay... not treason again, but Jesus Fucking Christ! Israel wants to spy on these talks, fine. But to share details of said espionage with political opponents of the President for partisan reasons? That is getting very dirty. And for the Republicans to just accept such details?

I mean, just how much further are Republicans going to go here?

 

[Rhea]

I mean, just how much further are Republicans going to go here?

My guess is until they hit the back of the throat and trigger the gag reflex. Interestingly, I suspect Israel would not be grossed out if the GOP puked all over their dick, they's just wait and put it back in. No matter how ugly the GOP can get, it's not too ugly for Israel.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Why are we allies with them again?

Not sure, but if you thought the relationship was frosty before, this will feel like a polar vortex.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why are we allies with them again?

Not sure, but if you thought the relationship was frosty before, this will feel like a polar vortex.

Things could get a little trickier. Should there be an investigation to see if Boehner and the Republicans traded a spot in Congress to give a Campaign Speech for intelligence into the multilateral talks between China, Russia, Germany, UK, France, US, and Iran.

Would explusion be reasonable?

 

[ksen]

Why are we allies with them again?

Not sure, but if you thought the relationship was frosty before, this will feel like a polar vortex.

I meant the House Republicans.

 

[dismal]

Not sure, but if you thought the relationship was frosty before, this will feel like a polar vortex.

I meant the House Republicans.

If 367 members (84%) of the house aren't speaking for "we" who is?