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FURY!

That was...a lot. I'd say the finale...went very well. And that's all I'll say for now.
 
It was cool. The fight between May and Ward was particularly good and also earlier when she used the Asgardian staff to knock the building down on those super soldiers. I liked it when Coulson got the Loki gun and went "Hey, I know what this does!" and the interaction between him and Fury was well done. It was funny when Garrett came back from the dead and Deathlocked himself only to have Coulson zap him in the back immediately. It did seem to blow an entire season's worth of CGI costs for one cheap laugh, though.

I liked the scenes with Fitz and Simmons, especially when they were talking about their two atheistic views of death and how they provided them the same level of hope and comfort as you usually see when characters are blabbing on about Jesus when they're about to die. I'm glad Fitz finally told her that he loved her and I'm interested in seeing what they're going to be doing with him in the next season.

It would have been nice to have a bit more information about exactly what's up with Skye, but they moved the mystery along and set it up as a major part of next season. I first thought that guy at the end was supposed to be the Mandarin, but then he had that bloody arm or whatever. I have no idea what that was supposed to reference.
 
It was a great season finale that sets things up nicely for season 2. I loved Coulson's disintegration of Garrett, it was definitely a Joss Whedon moment, but I will miss Bill Paxton being in the series. Patton Oswalt's twin was a bit of a surprise, but I am thinking he is actually a Life Model Decoy. The only problem with thinking that is in that case Eric was taken down way too easily by Ward, the LMDs have super strength, agility, etc., as well as a healing factor. I guess Eric could have been the original, and Billy an LMD, though.

The scene with Skye's father was a real teaser, but gave us a bit of a clue. I am thinking he may be the surviving Blood Brother, or possibly Dr. Demonicus, but who really knows? Demonicus is associated with the alien Myndai, but they were orange aliens, not blue, and otherwise passed for human. The Blood Brothers were giant ape-like aliens that originally served Thanos, the biggest blue baddy of them all, but the Blood Brothers depended on each other for their size and strength. They essentially became human when separated, and now that one of them is dead the other could be almost entirely human. As their name implies, they rely on blood for sustenance, which is why I immediately thought of them when I saw the bloody arm of Skye's father.
 
KeepTalking said:
It was a great season finale that sets things up nicely for season 2. I loved Coulson's disintegration of Garrett, it was definitely a Joss Whedon moment, but I will miss Bill Paxton being in the series. Patton Oswalt's twin was a bit of a surprise, but I am thinking he is actually a Life Model Decoy. The only problem with thinking that is in that case Eric was taken down way too easily by Ward, the LMDs have super strength, agility, etc., as well as a healing factor. I guess Eric could have been the original, and Billy an LMD, though.
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I did kinda squeal at the Billy reveal, though - Patton Oswalt was a great addition to the cast, so it's good to see him again. I recall Eric saying saying that he played Call of Duty with his Brother, but they're a bit too similar... And yeah, it's kinda sad to see we won't have Paxton relaxing, flying a plane with his feet, reading a book, and listening to Don't Fear the Reaper again. Also glad to see Triplett as an apparently permanent member, and can't wait to see what happens with Fitz - like I said, he's my personal favorite character. I won't even bother to guess what's up with Skye-I'm a video game nerd, not a comic book nerd :) but overall, I really like the season - with the exception of Ward's child abuse backstory, but I always hate those. They set things up pretty well, given what they had to work around, and I'd say that they started pulling things together around "The Bridge", and really hit their stride with the Hydra reveal.

So, next season, we have Skye's father, Raina, Quinn, Deathlok still running around, possibly Graviton, Coulson's ressurection still causing issues...and yet, I still loved the finale.

But ponder this. In the next year, on tv alone, we get Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter, Arrow, Gotham, and Flash. And I'm not even counting cartoons anymore.
 
Oh, I'm not, and I'm not counting recent or upcoming movies. But just on the real-person tv shows alone...we've got a great year coming up.
 
Jaecp said:
Well, Episode 1 is good TV, but 2-15 were pretty much mostly bad. I remember liking the ward/fitz team up episode though where fitz flirted with that old russian lady.

And Arrow is pretty much good the whole way through, bah, bah I say. And Season 2 is great!
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All I'll say is this: they set up A LOT in the first episodes, that get referenced later, and turns out to be big on in the season, and it wasn't always obvious. This was very well done...
 
So, how exactly is Coulson supposed to rebuild SHIELD without government funding? And aren't they still on the government's boogeyman list?
 
Underseer said:
So, how exactly is Coulson supposed to rebuild SHIELD without government funding? And aren't they still on the government's boogeyman list?
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They should still be on that list. The last time they were around the military, they beat up a bunch of soldiers and ran off. When the Marines showed up to arrest all the Hydra people, why didn't they arrest Coulson for assault as well?

Also, where are they getting gas for the plane?

Also, why did May just toss that Asgardian staff away when she was done with it? Wasn't there an entire episode about how it was too dangerous to be left lying around for people to pick up and they went and killed a bunch of people in order to ensure that it was safe?
 
Now that I think about it, and rewatch a couple of episodes...if you go back to the episode where Coulson recalls what happened to him in TAHITI, there's a very brief scene where Coulson sees, in order, blue liquid (the serum) flowing through some sort of device, a closeup of a few squiggles that seems to be the same diagram Garrett and Coulson etched in the finale, and what appears to be a galaxy or something from space...and then we get that scene where that spider-robot is working directly on his brain, which I assume was to erase his memories. Garrett didn't get the memory erasing, and, as Coulson said would happen, goes crazy, ranting about seeing "the Universe" and whatnot. But Skye takes the serum as well, and she seems to be fine, without any sort of mind erasing. I know folks have been hinting that she's not human for some time, and Raina just stated it flat-out, but wouldn't this suggest that she was always connected to the blue thing from Project TAHITI?

And why was the same style of diagram on the chalkboard that Ward stumbled on in "Eye Spy"?
 
Jayjay said:
So Coulson is not a robot? Dangit.
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*shrugs* turned out to be much more interesting than that, anyway. Plus there are a pair of secondary characters that *might* turn out to be robots/LMDs, anyway...
 
Only thing that bothered me a bit was being too reliant on name dropping characters who weren't in the show. Nick Fury especially. Ok he did show up at the end but it was as expected a disappointment because nearly every episode prior to that was had hyped up about Nick Fury being alive and even eactively involved in the events and then it was just a 65-year old geezer dropping a few lines; his appearance in the early episodes was executed better because then it was more of a surprise visit. This reminded me of the time in X-Files when David Duchovny was on a leave, and nearly every episode had characters moping about agent Mulder when the writers couldn't think of anything else.

When do TV producers / writers learn that just talking about Samuel L Jackson doesn't transfer the charisma of Samuel L Jackson to the show one bit. If there is a famous guest star, they could do it like they did with Sif, no introductions or prologue, just drop her in on the action. That's the way to do it.
 
I don't think that they relied on name dropping much. Yeah, there was Fury, but the show is "Agents of SHIELD", so they were always going to mention him. Aside from that, most characters (eg. Thor, Tony Stark) were only mentioned where it was appropriate - and to be honest, this is an attempt to tie a tv series to a cinematic series, so name dropping is inevitable.

And I also disagree about Fury's entrance. Hell, his first appearance was basically to reach down to Simmons like he was black Jesus. Him and Coulson work out very well. Honestly, it almost seems like a way to let him out of the MCU, but it's a very good way to do it, considering that Marvel has a plan that goes out for more than a decade.

I need to rematch the series. I already know of way too many things that were foreshadowed, I 'do like to know what I missed the first time...
 
Will be watching the the series again from the beginning this coming weekend. Overall, an uneven season saves itself in the last half.

Looking forward to season two.
 
Thread necromancy!

Not that that's wrong.

I have to admit, this show really lost its lustre for me. The Ghost Rider stuff was interesting, but now we're up to the Life Model Decoys, and it's nowhere near what I hoped it would be.

The Matrix-like prison is used to criticize Trump to great effect, and I like that part, but they don't seem to be covering what I thought would be the most interesting things about the LMDs that SHIELD uses.

When the LMDs were first written, the general public did not know what the Turing test was. Now we do, and the Turing test implies that all LMDs were probably self aware, which has really horrifying implications considering how they were used.

The show failed to capitalize on that one most interesting aspect.
 
For all the flaws of this show, the coolest thing has been Daisy.

First, it's nice to see a half-Asian like myself in any popular media.

Mostly though, I like that they are showing what Daisy was like before she became a mysterious badass lurking in the shadows.

In the comic books, she's the most mysterious of the SHIELD agents, the one with superpowers. Badass superpowers. She just sort of soars from the shadows, kicks everyone's asses, then goes back to the shadows before anyone knows what is going on. Kind of like Nick Fury's personal deus ex machinima.

In this show we get to see Quake when she is still learning the ropes and not yet the ultimate badass. She makes mistakes. She cries. She has mentors (agent May seems a lot like comic book Quake). It's great!

I do hope that by the time the show ends, she gets at least a few action scenes in which she pops out of the shadows and is all business like in the comic books.
 
Underseer said:
For all the flaws of this show, the coolest thing has been Daisy.

First, it's nice to see a half-Asian like myself in any popular media.
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I do agree, as I like seeing Melinda May.

Mostly though, I like that they are showing what Daisy was like before she became a mysterious badass lurking in the shadows.

In the comic books, she's the most mysterious of the SHIELD agents, the one with superpowers. Badass superpowers. She just sort of soars from the shadows, kicks everyone's asses, then goes back to the shadows before anyone knows what is going on. Kind of like Nick Fury's personal deus ex machinima.

In this show we get to see Quake when she is still learning the ropes and not yet the ultimate badass. She makes mistakes. She cries. She has mentors (agent May seems a lot like comic book Quake). It's great!

I do hope that by the time the show ends, she gets at least a few action scenes in which she pops out of the shadows and is all business like in the comic books.
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True. For now, with no powers, and with May and Fitz working for Hydra, won't happen. But when they get out of the Framework, who knows what goes on then?
 
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