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Alleged bicycle thief lassoed by alert Wal-mart customer

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In Oregon,
Eagle Point rancher Robert Borba was loading dog food and a camping tent into his truck and cattle trailer Friday morning at Walmart when he heard a woman screaming that someone was stealing her bicycle.

"I seen this fella trying to get up to speed on a bicycle," said the 28-year-old Borba, who was planning on helping brand cattle in California that afternoon. "I wasn't going to catch him on foot. I just don't run very fast."

Borba quickly brought out his horse, Long John, which he'd brought to help him with the cattle, from the back of his trailer.

The cowboy and his horse then chased after the alleged thief as the man, struggling with the gears, ditched the bike and attempted to flee on foot.

Borba said he grabbed his rope and let it fly, lassoing the man around his legs and causing him to tumble to the ground, dragging him like roped cattle to the end of the parking lot. Borba said the man then grabbed a tree near Carl's Jr. and attempted to break free, but Borba and Long John kept the rope taut.
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?
 
In Oregon,
Eagle Point rancher Robert Borba was loading dog food and a camping tent into his truck and cattle trailer Friday morning at Walmart when he heard a woman screaming that someone was stealing her bicycle.

"I seen this fella trying to get up to speed on a bicycle," said the 28-year-old Borba, who was planning on helping brand cattle in California that afternoon. "I wasn't going to catch him on foot. I just don't run very fast."

Borba quickly brought out his horse, Long John, which he'd brought to help him with the cattle, from the back of his trailer.

The cowboy and his horse then chased after the alleged thief as the man, struggling with the gears, ditched the bike and attempted to flee on foot.

Borba said he grabbed his rope and let it fly, lassoing the man around his legs and causing him to tumble to the ground, dragging him like roped cattle to the end of the parking lot. Borba said the man then grabbed a tree near Carl's Jr. and attempted to break free, but Borba and Long John kept the rope taut.
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?

To be fair, the cowboy lacked police training.
 
In Oregon,
Eagle Point rancher Robert Borba was loading dog food and a camping tent into his truck and cattle trailer Friday morning at Walmart when he heard a woman screaming that someone was stealing her bicycle.

"I seen this fella trying to get up to speed on a bicycle," said the 28-year-old Borba, who was planning on helping brand cattle in California that afternoon. "I wasn't going to catch him on foot. I just don't run very fast."

Borba quickly brought out his horse, Long John, which he'd brought to help him with the cattle, from the back of his trailer.

The cowboy and his horse then chased after the alleged thief as the man, struggling with the gears, ditched the bike and attempted to flee on foot.

Borba said he grabbed his rope and let it fly, lassoing the man around his legs and causing him to tumble to the ground, dragging him like roped cattle to the end of the parking lot. Borba said the man then grabbed a tree near Carl's Jr. and attempted to break free, but Borba and Long John kept the rope taut.
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?
Well next time police apprehend a black suspect, they should catch him with a rope. I'm sure that would not evoke any unwanted imagery.
 
In Oregon,
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?
Well next time police apprehend a black suspect, they should catch him with a rope. I'm sure that would not evoke any unwanted imagery.

Maybe they should just try not shooting him or giving him a 'rough ride.' Or beating him to death.
 
In Oregon,
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?

They can. They do it thousands of times every single day.


Jayjay said:
Well next time police apprehend a black suspect, they should catch him with a rope. I'm sure that would not evoke any unwanted imagery.

Not to mention, repeat this guys actions 1000 times per day and you'd get many outcomes where the suspect cracks his head open either going over the handle bars or being pulled to the ground by the rope, and BLMers would be screaming about excessive force.
 
They can. They do it thousands of times every single day.


Jayjay said:
Well next time police apprehend a black suspect, they should catch him with a rope. I'm sure that would not evoke any unwanted imagery.

Not to mention, repeat this guys actions 1000 times per day and you'd get many outcomes where the suspect cracks his head open either going over the handle bars or being pulled to the ground by the rope, and BLMers would be screaming about excessive force.

Why? Are you assuming that most bicycle thieves-- or thieves-- or criminals are black? The one in this case was not. Most are not.
 
In Oregon,
Eagle Point rancher Robert Borba was loading dog food and a camping tent into his truck and cattle trailer Friday morning at Walmart when he heard a woman screaming that someone was stealing her bicycle.

"I seen this fella trying to get up to speed on a bicycle," said the 28-year-old Borba, who was planning on helping brand cattle in California that afternoon. "I wasn't going to catch him on foot. I just don't run very fast."

Borba quickly brought out his horse, Long John, which he'd brought to help him with the cattle, from the back of his trailer.

The cowboy and his horse then chased after the alleged thief as the man, struggling with the gears, ditched the bike and attempted to flee on foot.

Borba said he grabbed his rope and let it fly, lassoing the man around his legs and causing him to tumble to the ground, dragging him like roped cattle to the end of the parking lot. Borba said the man then grabbed a tree near Carl's Jr. and attempted to break free, but Borba and Long John kept the rope taut.
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?

Police apprehend "unarmed miscreants" all the time without killing them. Far, far more often than not, in fact. The OP fails.

It is a cool story though. We need more guys like him.
 
Not to mention, repeat this guys actions 1000 times per day and you'd get many outcomes where the suspect cracks his head open either going over the handle bars or being pulled to the ground by the rope, and BLMers would be screaming about excessive force.
What is driving the straw men of
1) of repetition of this guy's actions, and
2) the introduction of BLM protests about possible excessive force?
 
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Not to mention, repeat this guys actions 1000 times per day and you'd get many outcomes where the suspect cracks his head open either going over the handle bars or being pulled to the ground by the rope, and BLMers would be screaming about excessive force.
What is driving the straw men of
1) of repetition of this guy's actions, and
2) the introduction of BLM protests about possible excessive force?

Your fallacious comparison to police officers and absurdly false claim that the cops cannot and do not apprehend unarmed miscreants without killing them.
Cops apprehend them 99.9% of the time without killing them.

You OP is the equivalent of pointing to a surgeon that just completed their first surgery and there were no complications, and then saying "See, why can't all doctors conduct surgeries without any complications?" They do all the time, but have any surgeon do countless surgeries and they will have many with negative complications, some due to their errors.

Apprehending a resisting or fleeing suspect has a good risk of injury to them, up to and including death. Such results are guaranteed to happen a small % of the time (which is all they do happen), no matter how competent and justified the methods. Like yourself, BLMers have proven either an inability or unwillingness to consider such facts in their unreasoned reactions to incidents.
 
I am trying to take this story seriously, but every time I imagine the guy on his horse chasing the thief on a bicycle, then lassoing the thief, I just start giggling. :hysterical:
 
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Your fallacious comparison to police officers and absurdly false claim that the cops cannot and do not apprehend unarmed miscreants without killing them ...
Yet another ridiculous straw man. I did not make any such claim. No one said police only shoot fleeing suspect. Really, what is driving your flight from basic comprehension and reason?

Police can and do shoot unarmed fleeing suspects ( Shooting_of_Walter_Scott). Here is a case of a police office tasing a man (and killing him) who is riding a bicycle (http://gawker.com/5862447/deaf-disabled-senior-citizen-on-bicycle-deemed-threat-by-police-tased-to-death. This does not mean every police officer does this every time. It does not mean that police cannot and do not successfully apprehend fleeing suspects without hurting them. But these easily avoidable tragedies happen too frequently.
 
This sounds like a cliché from every other cowboy movie ever made.
 
In Oregon,
Eagle Point rancher Robert Borba was loading dog food and a camping tent into his truck and cattle trailer Friday morning at Walmart when he heard a woman screaming that someone was stealing her bicycle.

"I seen this fella trying to get up to speed on a bicycle," said the 28-year-old Borba, who was planning on helping brand cattle in California that afternoon. "I wasn't going to catch him on foot. I just don't run very fast."

Borba quickly brought out his horse, Long John, which he'd brought to help him with the cattle, from the back of his trailer.

The cowboy and his horse then chased after the alleged thief as the man, struggling with the gears, ditched the bike and attempted to flee on foot.

Borba said he grabbed his rope and let it fly, lassoing the man around his legs and causing him to tumble to the ground, dragging him like roped cattle to the end of the parking lot. Borba said the man then grabbed a tree near Carl's Jr. and attempted to break free, but Borba and Long John kept the rope taut.
(http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20160610/horseback-hero-eagle-point-rancher-lassos-alleged-bicycle-thief.

If a ranch hand can apprehend an unarmed miscreant without killing him, how come police can't?

Key factor: Said miscreant wasn't attacking.
 
Key factor: Said miscreant wasn't attacking.
There are plenty of police shootings of people who are not attacking. I linked to 2 of them in my last reply to ronburgundy.

I don't think we know the whole story on #1. It seems he took the officer's taser--at that point he's not unarmed. Someone with a weapon in hand and within that weapon's range is a threat, period.

#2 is apparently a death from a fall--something that certainly could have happened with this roping case, also.
 
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