Alt-right free speech advocate dies building ISIS-style bombs

[Underseer]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/suspected-white-supremacist-died-building-isis-style-bombs

I would like to apologise for the political incorrectness in the above link. They use the forbidden term white supremacist instead of the politically correct "alt-right free speech advocate." If any conservatives or libertarians (who are completely different, honest!) are triggered by this, I am deeply sorry that you were offended. Your feewings are very important to me.

Also, we must not call him a terrorist. We are only allowed to call white people terrorists if they are from Ireland.

Anyway, if we accept past conservolibertarian arguments as valid, we can now conclude that all white people are terrorists and should deport them all, or at least stop accepting immigrants from nations known to have white people, just until we can figure out what is going on.

Of course, we could talk about what a hasty generalization fallacy is and why it can't support conclusions, but conservolibertarians have told me on numerous occasions that this logic is completely valid and that I am an idiot for questioning this logic.

 

[repoman]

He is likely to have left some digital trails to give further evidence as to his ideology and the people he followed.

But, like with Omar Mateen just being a homicidal lone wolf ISIS inspired killer who did NOT attack Pulse Nightclub because they were gay, this story will need a bit more time to flesh out.

I really want to know what the literature he had was. The Turner Diaries is the most likely at a bare minimum.

This is a correction about the motivation of Omar Mateen, the video title is not the best. I think it should say something along the lines that the shooting was not motivated by (internalized) hatred of gays, just ISIS allegiance.

 

[Underseer]

Omar Mateen was not killing those people because they were gay?

Really?

Oh.

You're going to say he can't have been killing them for being gay because he was gay himself? Is that the argument?

 

[repoman]

I am only going on this The Young Turks video, where from the trial of his wife there is ZERO evidence that he ever went to Pulse before, never looked up gay porn, never was on grindr. The porn he looked up was of older women.

He also did a google search of nightclubs an hour before the shooting randomly chose Pulse and asked where were all the women when he got there.

There are real anti-gay attacks that happen all the time, and getting this story right will be good in the long term. Having right wing anti gay people using this as a reason to discredit REAL anti-gay attacks would be terrible.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

After you write this

I would like to apologise for the political incorrectness in the above link. They use the forbidden term white supremacist instead of the politically correct "alt-right free speech advocate."

I can't tell if you are joking (as I hope you are) when you write this

Anyway, if we accept past conservolibertarian arguments as valid, we can now conclude that all white people are terrorists and should deport them all, or at least stop accepting immigrants from nations known to have white people, just until we can figure out what is going on.

I am left with the suspicion that you may actually equate conservatives and libertarians as all bigots who want to build bombs and blow up brown people in their neighbourhoods. Please correct that faulty impression.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I am only going on this The Young Turks video, where from the trial of his wife there is ZERO evidence that he ever went to Pulse before, never looked up gay porn, never was on grindr. The porn he looked up was of older women.

He also did a google search of nightclubs an hour before the shooting randomly chose Pulse and asked where were all the women when he got there.

There are real anti-gay attacks that happen all the time, and getting this story right will be good in the long term. Having right wing anti gay people using this as a reason to discredit REAL anti-gay attacks would be terrible.

As little as I would trust TYT with news, they (and by extension you) appear to be right about this.

 

[steve_bank]

A bombastic individual who tried to hoist humself by his own petard.

 

[Opoponax]

I really want to know what the literature he had was. The Turner Diaries is the most likely at a bare minimum.

Yes. The Turner Diaries is a must read for anyone who wants to know the mindset of current, extremist right wing thinking. I say "extremist" carefully though because the Turner Diaries represents a much larger number of American conservatives than is understood. That is, these people's votes are being actively sought after, thereby making them closer to right wing mainstream than they've been since before the 1960s.

 

[Arctish]

I really want to know what the literature he had was. The Turner Diaries is the most likely at a bare minimum.

Yes. The Turner Diaries is a must read for anyone who wants to know the mindset of current, extremist right wing thinking. I say "extremist" carefully though because the Turner Diaries represents a much larger number of American conservatives than is understood. That is, these people's votes are being actively sought after, thereby making them closer to right wing mainstream than they've been since before the 1960s.

Is it better than Atlas Shrugged? Because if not, I'd rather just read the Cliff Notes.

 

[Emily Lake]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/suspected-white-supremacist-died-building-isis-style-bombs

I would like to apologise for the political incorrectness in the above link. They use the forbidden term white supremacist instead of the politically correct "alt-right free speech advocate." If any conservatives or libertarians (who are completely different, honest!) are triggered by this, I am deeply sorry that you were offended. Your feewings are very important to me.

Also, we must not call him a terrorist. We are only allowed to call white people terrorists if they are from Ireland.

Anyway, if we accept past conservolibertarian arguments as valid, we can now conclude that all white people are terrorists and should deport them all, or at least stop accepting immigrants from nations known to have white people, just until we can figure out what is going on.

Of course, we could talk about what a hasty generalization fallacy is and why it can't support conclusions, but conservolibertarians have told me on numerous occasions that this logic is completely valid and that I am an idiot for questioning this logic.

Your opening screed is really quite unnecessary. This person is a white supremacist and a terrorist.

The bulk of your post appears to be of no value to discourse, and seems to be intended solely to get a rise out of people and instigate an antagonistic response. I believe there is a well-accepted internet term for such...

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I am only going on this The Young Turks video, where from the trial of his wife there is ZERO evidence that he ever went to Pulse before, never looked up gay porn, never was on grindr. The porn he looked up was of older women.

He also did a google search of nightclubs an hour before the shooting randomly chose Pulse and asked where were all the women when he got there.

There are real anti-gay attacks that happen all the time, and getting this story right will be good in the long term. Having right wing anti gay people using this as a reason to discredit REAL anti-gay attacks would be terrible.

That is all based on his wife who could have been lying, in denial or ignorant. Eye witnesses said he was gay with guys in the bar. Maybe they were lying but they and their testimony would not be any part of her trial.

 

[Worldtraveller]

FWIW, I still chuckle every time I see this thread.

Please keep bumping it, I need my daily dose of schadenfreude.