Arresting black people for committing crimes is now apparently "racist"

[Derec]

Race, Graffiti and an Arrest

In reality, the only thing racist here is Denzel McDonald. Funny how his violent and racist messages are described as "anti-racist". And of course this asshole is attending an "Afro-American Studies" class, which should be renamed "Blame Whitey for Everything" class. '

I also wonder if he is an affirmative action admission. I mean his spelling skills seem rather weak.

 

[RavenSky]

Your post is racist. If you actually have a point you want to discuss, re-write your OP to remove the racist bullshit, and then state your position

 

[Nice Squirrel]

It appears that they are upset with the manner of arrest. Nobody said the police were motivated by race.

Agreed, the OP needs to be rewritten.

I also wonder if he is an affirmative action admission. I mean his spelling skills seem rather weak.

You obviously don't know what Affirmative Action is, or how it is implemented.

 

[laughing dog]

I would be interested to know if the university police exerted the same effort to arrest all perpetrators of vandalism before I would jump to a conclusion.

 

[RavenSky]

I would be interested to know if the university police exerted the same effort to arrest all perpetrators of vandalism before I would jump to a conclusion.

If I wanted to discuss any of this before Derec revises his OP, I'd agree with you. Perhaps I will start a new thread where the rest of us can discuss the actual points of the case without the racist overtones of the OP

 

[Nice Squirrel]

I would be interested to know if the university police exerted the same effort to arrest all perpetrators of vandalism before I would jump to a conclusion.

Depends, but I suspect he bragged about it on the Facebooks. Or one of his friends stooled him out. Police are kinda lazy over such acts.

 

[KeepTalking]

I would be interested to know if the university police exerted the same effort to arrest all perpetrators of vandalism before I would jump to a conclusion.

Depends, but I suspect he bragged about it on the Facebooks. Or one of his friends stooled him out.

From the aritcle:

The student, a senior named Denzel McDonald, was then arrested on 11 preliminary counts of vandalism and one count of disorderly conduct, for allegedly threatening to kill someone who saw him painting the graffiti.

My assumption is that the threatened person ignored the threat and turned him in anyway, otherwise, the cops likely would not have known about the threat.

 

[RavenSky]

I would be interested to know if the university police exerted the same effort to arrest all perpetrators of vandalism before I would jump to a conclusion.

from the article

After the arrest, Almiron and other faculty members wrote an open letter condemning the arrest for occurring in the middle of class. They asked that McDonald be “given immunity from expulsion,” and said that the police’s response to the graffiti was overzealous.
“Even the rash of violent crimes on campus such as rape and sexual assault have not received this kind of response,” the faculty wrote. “This charge was for vandalism.

The university’s Teaching Assistants’ Association also criticized the arrest, saying in a statement that “at a time when we are witnessing an upsurge in racist backlash against movements for a more inclusive university, officials acting on behalf of the university will respond aggressively to the victims of that backlash rather than to its perpetrators.”

On Friday, Susan Riseling, the university’s police chief, released a statement apologizing for the officers’ behavior.

Promising a review of the department's practices, Rebecca Blank, the university’s chancellor, said in a statement that the officers entering the classroom was not appropriate,

 

[RavenSky]

How come Derec didn't quote this part and make any of his racist jokes about the perpetrators of these incidents:

The university has experienced several racist incidents in recent months, including students finding graffiti of a man hanging from a tree in a campus restroom.

In January, a student taped swastikas and photographs of Hitler on the door of a Jewish student’s room. In March, three students interrupted an event about Native Americans who were victims of sexual assault by yelling “war cry” noises. Later than month, a student spat on a group of black students, calling them “poor and here on scholarship.”

Earlier this month, someone slipped a note under the door of a freshman who is biracial and identifies as African-American. “Fuck you nigger bitch,” the note read.

 

[Malintent]

Your post is racist. If you actually have a point you want to discuss, re-write your OP to remove the racist bullshit, and then state your position

You are referring to his use of the racist word "whitey", right?

 

[RavenSky]

I will also note that Derec did not use the photo of the graffiti that was used in the article he linked to, instead using others to be more inflammatory. Others that I have yet to find together on any article about this incident.

Here is the photo used in the article:



Whatever you think about graffiti as an art or speech form, it is clear that Denzel McDonald was addressing an existing issue on the campus... not just running around being a violent and racist criminal as Derec would have us believe.

 

[Malintent]

It appears that they are upset with the manner of arrest. Nobody said the police were motivated by race.

Agreed, the OP needs to be rewritten.

I also wonder if he is an affirmative action admission. I mean his spelling skills seem rather weak.

You obviously don't know what Affirmative Action is, or how it is implemented.

The common belief as to what "affirmative action" is, is that specific minority groups (not all of them, just some - or one - of them) have reduced requirements for entry into certain programs (such as entry into colleges or employment). The justification for this "reverse discrimination" is to make amends for decades of unequal and unfair treatment of these (this) group. Is that not what it is?

Here is an example of "affirmative action" as I personally experienced it. I (a white male living as a minority in Jamaica Queens) was denied entry into a charter school for receiving a score of 509 on a test that required a 510 to get in. I appealed the exam at the board of education.. all that was needed to 'win' was to have a single question on the exam I answered incorrectly removed due to an issue with it. My meeting lasted about 15 minutes with a black male BoE employee. He would not review the exam with me. He (gleefully, as I recall it) told me that they could not do the review for me, however if I was black then they would have been able to get me in on "an alternative program". Since I was white, I could just try again the following year, like everyone else.
I did get in the following year... my life depended on it. Had I attended my local high school, I may not have survived the racisim I grew up with my entire young-adulthood.

 

[RavenSky]

Here is another one:



Anyone want to argue that the concept of white supremacy is NOT a "disease"? Anyone? Derec?

 

[whichphilosophy]

There are better ways to protest than by damaging property with spray paint

 

[whichphilosophy]

Here is another one:

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Anyone want to argue that the concept of white supremacy is NOT a "disease"? Anyone? Derec?

It is, but is that a justification to damage property? Proper campaigns with posters and specifics (eg [printed in leaflets) would be a more logical way of protesting.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

There are better ways to protest than by damaging property with spray paint

Exactly.

 

[RavenSky]

There are better ways to protest than by damaging property with spray paint

As I said, regardless how you feel about graffiti as an art or communications form...

Denzel McDonald was not running around being a "violent" "criminal" making "racist messages" - these are the words being used in the OP about him.

Moreover (contrary to the impression the OP is trying to give), the school faculty and students are not objecting to Denzel McDonald facing repercussions for his graffiti. Their objections are to the disproportionate manner in which Denzel was arrested in the classroom during class - an action that disrupted the class to the detriment of other uninvolved students. Two different officials of the school have already acknowledged that this action was wrong and have apologised for it.

Faculty is also calling for a stay of expulsion. As was noted above, their position is that "even the rash of violent crimes on campus such as rape and sexual assault have not received this kind of response".

I would also note that Denzel's graffiti is in response to truly racist graffiti:

The university has experienced several racist incidents in recent months, including students finding graffiti of a man hanging from a tree in a campus restroom.

Was a classroom disrupted and that vandal expelled?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

The university has experienced several racist incidents in recent months, including students finding graffiti of a man hanging from a tree in a campus restroom.

I am less worried about a bathroom doodle. I understand why people believe this is serious, but I've seen worse in bathroom stalls.

 

[Derec]

Your post is racist. If you actually have a point you want to discuss, re-write your OP to remove the racist bullshit, and then state your position

Why do you think my post is racist? What "racist bullshit" do you think you see there?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Your post is racist. If you actually have a point you want to discuss, re-write your OP to remove the racist bullshit, and then state your position

Where's the racism in his post? Suggesting he was an AA admit because he can't spell? AA admits usually are scraping the bottom of the barrel--if they were good students they would be regular admits rather than AA admits.

Complaining about Afro-American studies? Again, on target. [Group X] studies are always garbage.