Biden wants to Appoint Communist to take over Banking: Scary & Unbelievable

Ford

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I love how low the bar is to be a communist nowadays. Basically, all you need to do is disagree with Generation55 and ta da. It was harder when I was a kid to be a communist.

She wrote a thesis paper on Marxism that she refuses to show anyone.
So you've read this paper how?

Her ideas are full on Marxist. You don't even have to see the paper.
No, seriously. I want you to post an excerpt from this paper you claim exists, and show - with examples - why it is "full on Marxist."

We have this thing here called the "burden of proof." If you make a claim, then you have to back it up with evidence. Saying that someone wrote a paper that they "refuse to show to anyone," holding that up as evidence, and then claiming that the imaginary paper does not even need to be seen is not backing up your assertion.

Have I told you about the dragon in my garage?

Washington, D.C. – The U.S. Senate Banking Committee formally received President Biden’s nomination of Professor Saule Omarova for Comptroller of the Currency. Notably missing from her paperwork, however, is a copy of her thesis, “Karl Marx’s Economic Analysis and the Theory of Revolution in The Capital.
"On October 5, 2021, Senator Toomey sent a letter asking Ms. Omarova to provide the Committee with a copy of the thesis no later than October 13, 2021, to allow the Committee adequate time to translate and thoroughly review it. To this day, Ms. Omarova has neither provided a copy of her thesis to the Committee nor provided any explanation for her failure to do so."
“All nominees within the Committee’s jurisdiction are required to provide their writings, articles, and papers. Unfortunately, Professor Omarova appears to believe she is exempt from these rules,” said Ranking Member Toomey. “In order for lawmakers to fully and fairly consider Professor Omarova’s nomination to serve as our nation’s top banking regulator, we need a complete picture of her policy positions. The fact that she recently deleted references to her thesis begs the question: what is she hiding?”

But i'm sure you guys believe that her paper is trashing Karl Marx and extoling the virtues of capitalism and how we need to protet it all costs if we want to keep moving ahead as a society. It must be terrible being poor in a country where everyone has a smartphone and the poor get obese like the kings of old. You guys do know obesity used to be a sign of wealth because it was a signal you had tons of food available to you, right?
So you don't have any idea what's in the paper in question, have never seen it, and can't quote it.

Burden of proof. Ball is in your court.

funinspace

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Wait....say wut? So its no longer cool to play footsie with Comrade Putin? When did that end?

Have I told you about the dragon in my garage?
Have you imprisoned SigmatheZeta?

Generation55

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The thesis in question was written in 1989 for her undergraduate degree. It is conceivable she has no copy if it.
I don’t have a copy of any papers I wrote as an undergraduate.
Then why doesn't she say that? Or at least summarize her views on Marxism.

Loony Running The Asylum
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Here's a quote from another forum I'm reading:

"She should never be allowed to be a government employee let alone this high of a position. Born in Russia, college education on a Lenin Scholarship, hates banks and capitalism, gee what could go wrong?"
Stormfront or Nakedgranniesdoingwierdthingswiththeirpoop.com?

You think citing some other unknown idiot on the internet is a compelling argument? Cite her words that say hates banks and capitalism and loves communism. If you cannot, then you are just slandering people.

Ford

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The thesis in question was written in 1989 for her undergraduate degree. It is conceivable she has no copy if it.
I don’t have a copy of any papers I wrote as an undergraduate.
Then why doesn't she say that? Or at least summarize her views on Marxism.
Why should she bother to summarize her views when you already know exactly what those views are?

You've already decided that she's a dedicated Marxist, is a sleeper agent for communism, and will destroy the US in one fell swoop.

Will a summary of a paper she wrote around the time the Berlin Wall fell really change your mind?

I'm guessing no.

Generation55

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Such high authority!: some anonymous post on an un-named forum you visit! Well, if THEY say so, I guess it must be so! Whoever they is…

I’m flummoxed at the meaning that is attributed to the so offensive tweet. What is so offensive? That she points out that even in the Soviet Union, there is no gender pay gap? That’s a bit like saying that stating that the trains ran on time under Hitler is a ringing endorsement of Hitler. I guess anything other than admit that the fact that there is a persistent gender pay gap that even backwards, discredited communist countries managed to eliminate. Isn’t the actual point of that tweet how offensive and backward gender pay gaps are???

Or would that distract too much from actual…reading comprehension, critical thinking, or just thinking instead of headline grabbing deliberate misinterpretations?
Well, the gender pay gap has been debunked. Women tend to work less hours and take more time off than men. Besides, you could just have all the women identify as men and then there wold be no problem because we'd all be men. But, this would require some ideological consistency on the part of liberals.

But regardless, it's like saying, "I'm not defending Hitler, but he let people open businesses" or "I'm not defending Castro, but he has good healthcare" like Bernie Sanders did. It's a way to ease them into radicalization. People hear, "Castro had good healthcare? Mabe communism is awesome!" Standard brainwashing technique.

Loony Running The Asylum
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Such high authority!: some anonymous post on an un-named forum you visit! Well, if THEY say so, I guess it must be so! Whoever they is…

I’m flummoxed at the meaning that is attributed to the so offensive tweet. What is so offensive? That she points out that even in the Soviet Union, there is no gender pay gap? That’s a bit like saying that stating that the trains ran on time under Hitler is a ringing endorsement of Hitler. I guess anything other than admit that the fact that there is a persistent gender pay gap that even backwards, discredited communist countries managed to eliminate. Isn’t the actual point of that tweet how offensive and backward gender pay gaps are???

Or would that distract too much from actual…reading comprehension, critical thinking, or just thinking instead of headline grabbing deliberate misinterpretations?
Well, the gender pay gap has been debunked. Women tend to work less hours and take more time off than men. Besides, you could just have all the women identify as men and then there wold be no problem because we'd all be men. But, this would require some ideological consistency on the part of liberals.

But regardless, it's like saying, "I'm not defending Hitler, but he let people open businesses" or "I'm not defending Castro, but he has good healthcare" like Bernie Sanders did. It's a way to ease them into radicalization. People hear, "Castro had good healthcare? Mabe communism is awesome!" Standard brainwashing technique.
You should know since you've obviously been subjected to it.

Generation55

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Here's a quote from another forum I'm reading:

"She should never be allowed to be a government employee let alone this high of a position. Born in Russia, college education on a Lenin Scholarship, hates banks and capitalism, gee what could go wrong?"
Stormfront or Nakedgranniesdoingwierdthingswiththeirpoop.com?

You think citing some other unknown idiot on the internet is a compelling argument? Cite her words that say hates banks and capitalism and loves communism. If you cannot, then you are just slandering people.
The fact that she wants to nationalize banking is how you can tell she hates capitalism. Bernie Sanders even called for nationalizing the banks. Well, he called for nationalizing basically everything and making everyone a slave to the government forever, but that's neither here nor there. What I love is freedom. And since I love freedom so much, I want the government to do as less as possible and stay out of everyone's lives. The only time the government should interfere is to protect life and liberty. It is not there to control my money. That doesn't improve my life and liberty.

funinspace

Don't Panic
Seriously?? We've been telling Americans to leave Afghanistan for at least 12 months before the withdraw. Hello. Ever hear of a jet? If someone is so stupid that they honestly didn't get the word in time, we should revoke their US citizenship.

Ah, so it's their fault they are stuck there and poop for them? How heartless. Did you know a lot of those people stayed because they ddin't want to abandon their citizens that they grow fond of and developed a bond with? A lot of them are heroes and they are being spit on by Joe Biden and the Dems. Shame on you. There are still people there who want to leave and they can't. Biden is doing nothing about it. He gave the country to the Taliban. He never even apologized to the Afghan people.
Well, they had over 12 months! How long should we have stayed for them? Trump announced that we were withdrawing in August of 2020! Then it was delayed. Biden said all along that he was pulling out. Biden doesn't mess around. Then they had another 6 or 7 months after Biden was installed in office. I feel bad for the Afghan people. Next time don't align with a terrorist group that wants to attack the US.
Yeah, he kept saying we are pulling out even after it was known that the Taliban was taking over the country at an alarming rate. All he had to say was, "Not yet." Taliban would've stopped. Very simple. Biden just threw his arms up and said, "Oh well. Let them have the country." Pretty sick.
The Taliban had been gaining ground for years. And Biden was also slowing down Trump's abandonment plan, after his team sat down with the Taliban and negotiated a piss poor departure plan...

Ford

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What I love is freedom. And since I love freedom so much, I want the government to do as less as possible and stay out of everyone's lives. The only time the government should interfere is to protect life and liberty. It is not there to control my money. That doesn't improve my life and liberty.

So why won't you release that research paper you wrote? You know...the one where you researched all the writings of Friedrich Engels and fully endorsed them? Sure, you were in college back then, but what are you trying to hide by burying that paper?

Generation55

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Wow, I'm thinking of another word that starts with C and end wit T. Not communist though. It's only four letters, the word I'm thinking.

I think Gneration55 is part of an extreme right wing cult. The kind where they just argue inside their heads and win every argument.

It's better than the upside down world of liberal land where America is systemically racist but immigrants die trying to get into this systemically racist country, where men can be women and women can be men, and where the government should do everything for us while also making jokes about how inept the DMV is.

I prefer reality. That's my cult.

Loony Running The Asylum
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What I love is freedom. And since I love freedom so much, I want the government to do as less as possible and stay out of everyone's lives. The only time the government should interfere is to protect life and liberty. It is not there to control my money. That doesn't improve my life and liberty.

So why won't you release that research paper you wrote? You know...the one where you researched all the writings of Friedrich Engels and fully endorsed them? Sure, you were in college back then, but what are you trying to hide by burying that paper?

I highly doubt G55 went to college since he seems to have no idea that providing quotes and sources to back up his opinions is a requirement there.

Generation55

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What I love is freedom. And since I love freedom so much, I want the government to do as less as possible and stay out of everyone's lives. The only time the government should interfere is to protect life and liberty. It is not there to control my money. That doesn't improve my life and liberty.

So why won't you release that research paper you wrote? You know...the one where you researched all the writings of Friedrich Engels and fully endorsed them? Sure, you were in college back then, but what are you trying to hide by burying that paper?

Terrible. She never denied the existence of said paper. She just won't show it or give any reasons why she won't show it. I suppose I'll just assume she loves capitalism, just like the Squad who backs her, too. They've also been known to say loving things about capitalism and bash Marx all the time.

The great thing about capialism is that any moron can become rich and hit it big. This drives innovation and fuels growth like no other system. People get the ideas and become rich off the idea, and people end up getting jobs and using the products and services provided for them by the people who came up with the ideas. People get rich by making yotube videos of them eating food. Capitalism is the greatest. There is no denying it. Yo look silly trying.

Loony Running The Asylum
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The great thing about capialism is that any moron can become rich and hit it big. This drives innovation and fuels growth like no other system. People get the ideas and become rich off the idea, and people end up getting jobs and using the products and services provided for them by the people who came up with the ideas. People get rich by making yotube videos of them eating food. Capitalism is the greatest. There is no denying it. Yo look silly trying.
Then why haven't you done so?

Generation55

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What I love is freedom. And since I love freedom so much, I want the government to do as less as possible and stay out of everyone's lives. The only time the government should interfere is to protect life and liberty. It is not there to control my money. That doesn't improve my life and liberty.

So why won't you release that research paper you wrote? You know...the one where you researched all the writings of Friedrich Engels and fully endorsed them? Sure, you were in college back then, but what are you trying to hide by burying that paper?

I highly doubt G55 went to college since he seems to have no idea that providing quotes and sources to back up his opinions is a requirement there.

Which opinion? That capitalism is the greatest system and trying to tear it down for Marxism is one of the dumbest ideas ever thought of? My proof is capitalist countries across the world compared to communist dictatorships. South Korea is a bastion of free market capialism and a very rich and prosperous country. North Korea, a communist utopia right next door and it has nothing. Ever look up North Korea and South Kore at night from space? South Korea is fully lit up and North Korea is pitch black. If you ask me, North Korea just needs capitalism.

Generation55

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The great thing about capialism is that any moron can become rich and hit it big. This drives innovation and fuels growth like no other system. People get the ideas and become rich off the idea, and people end up getting jobs and using the products and services provided for them by the people who came up with the ideas. People get rich by making yotube videos of them eating food. Capitalism is the greatest. There is no denying it. Yo look silly trying.
Then why haven't you done so?
Why haven't you? People make use of their talent in different ways. If someone wants to work a minimum wage job, that is fine. Just don't expect to get paid more than that. I have had so many talks with communists at various jobs throughout my life. I asked one of them, "Why don't you try to get a better job than this?" He said, "Well, I'm a communist. If I try for something better, I'll feel like a sellout. I just want to be paid more for doing this job." This is the communist mentality. Why try because I should just be paid more because I say so. Selfishness. Nothing more.

Loony Running The Asylum
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The great thing about capialism is that any moron can become rich and hit it big. This drives innovation and fuels growth like no other system. People get the ideas and become rich off the idea, and people end up getting jobs and using the products and services provided for them by the people who came up with the ideas. People get rich by making yotube videos of them eating food. Capitalism is the greatest. There is no denying it. Yo look silly trying.
Then why haven't you done so?
Why haven't you? People make use of their talent in different ways. If someone wants to work a minimum wage job, that is fine. Just don't expect to get paid more than that. I have had so many talks with communists at various jobs throughout my life. I asked one of them, "Why don't you try to get a better job than this?" He said, "Well, I'm a communist. If I try for something better, I'll feel like a sellout. I just want to be paid more for doing this job." This is the communist mentality. Why try because I should just be paid more because I say so. Selfishness. Nothing more.
I asked you first. Another deflection.

Ford

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Which opinion? That capitalism is the greatest system and trying to tear it down for Marxism is one of the dumbest ideas ever thought of? My proof is capitalist countries across the world compared to communist dictatorships. South Korea is a bastion of free market capialism and a very rich and prosperous country. North Korea, a communist utopia right next door and it has nothing. Ever look up North Korea and South Kore at night from space? South Korea is fully lit up and North Korea is pitch black. If you ask me, North Korea just needs capitalism.
So mainland China - a country which is run by a self-identified "communist" party - is in fact a dirt poor nation which lives in the dark and totally does not have Walmart, Buick, and gleaming cities filled with banks and billionaires.

Got it.

Generation55

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Which opinion? That capitalism is the greatest system and trying to tear it down for Marxism is one of the dumbest ideas ever thought of? My proof is capitalist countries across the world compared to communist dictatorships. South Korea is a bastion of free market capialism and a very rich and prosperous country. North Korea, a communist utopia right next door and it has nothing. Ever look up North Korea and South Kore at night from space? South Korea is fully lit up and North Korea is pitch black. If you ask me, North Korea just needs capitalism.
So mainland China - a country which is run by a self-identified "communist" party - is in fact a dirt poor nation which lives in the dark and totally does not have Walmart, Buick, and gleaming cities filled with banks and billionaires.

Got it.

The irony of this is that China did not get lifted out of poverty and become a world power until they embraced capitalism. They have very authoritarian elements in their government with their crackdowns on people's freedoms. Remember that Hitler allowed businesses and people to get rich, too. China has kept some authoritarian Marxist elements in government when it comes to censorship and controlling their people, but they are not full blown communist. This would be like saying that North Korea is democratic just because it's in their name. Names can be deceptive. Cuba was communist and look at them. Sort of like how ANTIFA claims to be anti-fascist but they are actually fascist. They burn down buildings, loot, take over city streets for months at a time, government won't stop them.

Ford

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The irony of this is that China did not get lifted out of poverty and become a world power until they embraced capitalism.
So authoritarian capitalism = good. Joe Biden = bad.

This is quite the enlightening conversation.

But you still haven't revealed that paper you wrote where you praised Engels. What's holding you back?

Generation55

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The irony of this is that China did not get lifted out of poverty and become a world power until they embraced capitalism.
So authoritarian capitalism = good. Joe Biden = bad.

This is quite the enlightening conversation.

But you still haven't revealed that paper you wrote where you praised Engels. What's holding you back?

I never said authoritarian capitalism is good, but it's preferable to authoritarian communism. I prefer free market capitalism with no government involvement. Capitalism grows because of the invisible hand of the free market. Adam Smith wrote about this. China's poor people are now richer than they ever were. Same with America's poor. Why? Because the benefits that the rich provide always ends up trickling down. Regan was just stating common sense. Jeff Bezos would not be rich if no one wanted his products and services. Plenty of businesses start and fail because customers don't want it. People love Amazon. They want it every day. They want everything with 1 day shipping. Don't blame Bezos for this.

Also, have you heard of Hasan Piker? He's one of the msot popular figures on the left and he got rich talking on youtube about how much capitalism sucks. He recently bought a 3 million dollar mansion and he still talks about how much capitalism sucks and how communism is the best. So a guy who got rich only because of capitalism and now lives in a mansion is still trying to convince people that capitalism sucks. This is the best the left has. Don't you find that funny?

Patooka

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I have had so many talks with communists
Wow. They are pretty hard to find nowadays. How do you pick 'em out so easily?

Toni

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Such high authority!: some anonymous post on an un-named forum you visit! Well, if THEY say so, I guess it must be so! Whoever they is…

I’m flummoxed at the meaning that is attributed to the so offensive tweet. What is so offensive? That she points out that even in the Soviet Union, there is no gender pay gap? That’s a bit like saying that stating that the trains ran on time under Hitler is a ringing endorsement of Hitler. I guess anything other than admit that the fact that there is a persistent gender pay gap that even backwards, discredited communist countries managed to eliminate. Isn’t the actual point of that tweet how offensive and backward gender pay gaps are???

Or would that distract too much from actual…reading comprehension, critical thinking, or just thinking instead of headline grabbing deliberate misinterpretations?
Well, the gender pay gap has been debunked. Women tend to work less hours and take more time off than men. Besides, you could just have all the women identify as men and then there wold be no problem because we'd all be men. But, this would require some ideological consistency on the part of liberals.

But regardless, it's like saying, "I'm not defending Hitler, but he let people open businesses" or "I'm not defending Castro, but he has good healthcare" like Bernie Sanders did. It's a way to ease them into radicalization. People hear, "Castro had good healthcare? Mabe communism is awesome!" Standard brainwashing technique.
The gender pay gap has been disputed, not debunked.

But I see that you get the point—one can point out something not horrible that a despicable person or country says or did without it being a full in endursemebt as implied in you OP.

It’s good to see growth!

Ford

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Also, have you heard of Hasan Piker? He's one of the msot popular figures on the left and he got rich talking on youtube about how much capitalism sucks. He recently bought a 3 million dollar mansion and he still talks about how much capitalism sucks and how communism is the best. So a guy who got rich only because of capitalism and now lives in a mansion is still trying to convince people that capitalism sucks. This is the best the left has. Don't you find that funny?

Hang on a tic while I go down the list of deadly sins...

Oh, I know!

bilby

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When confronted with news that is scary and unbelievable, I generally choose to disbelieve, rather than to be scared, as people who lie in order to manipulate by evoking fear are commonplace, while genuinely scary situations that are hard to believe are very rare indeed.

The hallmark of right-wing supporters is their inclination to choose fear over skepticism. It's a major cognitive error, and the cause of much right-wing policy.

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My take is she's pretty tame for a Commie firebrand,. Oh, and she's right up front as well.

Resorting to a paper written as an undergraduate when all this significant stuff is just out there waiting to be plucked. Seems to me Toomey has some shiet in his pants.

...and just how is the hell is she going to Marx-ize banking?

You know we used to have a national bank until Andrew Jackson came along and sank the economy in 1840.

laughing dog

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The thesis in question was written in 1989 for her undergraduate degree. It is conceivable she has no copy if it.
I don’t have a copy of any papers I wrote as an undergraduate.
Then why doesn't she say that? Or at least summarize her views on Marxism.
I don’t know, it us posdible she has snd Toomey is lying. It is possible she feels a paper she wrote as an undergraduate over 30 years ago is irrelevant.

Still waiting for some actual evidence that

1) shiws she us a communist, and

2) shows from her written or stated views how she would destroy the US banking system all by herself.

Generation55

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When confronted with news that is scary and unbelievable, I generally choose to disbelieve, rather than to be scared, as people who lie in order to manipulate by evoking fear are commonplace, while genuinely scary situations that are hard to believe are very rare indeed.

The hallmark of right-wing supporters is their inclination to choose fear over skepticism. It's a major cognitive error, and the cause of much right-wing policy.

Oh you guys have fear, too. It's just on stuff that isn't as threatening. For example, you guys are scared to death of COVID. Republicans are not. Even the people who tell you guys, "Yeah we don't care if we get it. Let's take a risk and not get the vaccine. We're only infecting people who are OK with taking the risk," you still yell at them. You guys are scared to death of white supremacists.

Is it reasonable to be fearful of COVID? Yes, but not to the extreme that liberals take it. They become unhinged lunatics about it the way they listen to Saint Fauci.

Is it reasonable to be fearful of white supremacists? Sure, but not to the extreme that liberals take it. They also become unhinged lunatics about it. It's reasonable to become fearful of black supremacists, too. But liberals don't care about that type of racism. I don't mess around. I hate all types of racism. but since I'm not a coward, I can say that.

The bigger threat is the communist being appointed by Biden and his minions.

Generation55

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The thesis in question was written in 1989 for her undergraduate degree. It is conceivable she has no copy if it.
I don’t have a copy of any papers I wrote as an undergraduate.
Then why doesn't she say that? Or at least summarize her views on Marxism.
I don’t know, it us posdible she has snd Toomey is lying. It is possible she feels a paper she wrote as an undergraduate over 30 years ago is irrelevant.

Still waiting for some actual evidence that

1) shiws she us a communist, and

2) shows from her written or stated views how she would destroy the US banking system all by herself.

Oh I see, you expect her to just stand up and say, "i am a full blown Marxist and I want to give all power to the FED and bring down the banking system. It's all government now, baby!" Well, this is the real world where people hide thier intentions. I seem to recall Trump never stating, "I am a white supremacist hellbent on destroying all non-whites." Yet, that didn't stop you guys from inferring it.

bilby

Fair dinkum thinkum
When confronted with news that is scary and unbelievable, I generally choose to disbelieve, rather than to be scared, as people who lie in order to manipulate by evoking fear are commonplace, while genuinely scary situations that are hard to believe are very rare indeed.

The hallmark of right-wing supporters is their inclination to choose fear over skepticism. It's a major cognitive error, and the cause of much right-wing policy.

Oh you guys have fear, too. It's just on stuff that isn't as threatening. For example, you guys are scared to death of COVID.
I am not 'guys'; there's only one of me.

I am not scared to death of COVID; I understand the risk it poses, having studied some virology and the history of respiratory diseases since the Industrial Revolution.
Republicans are not. Even the people who tell you guys, "Yeah we don't care if we get it. Let's take a risk and not get the vaccine. We're only infecting people who are OK with taking the risk," you still yell at them.
That's got zero to do with fear, and everything to do with the fact that they are infecting people who are NOT OK with taking the risk. That they are too fucking stupid to recognise the threat they pose to others doesn't make them any less reprehensible; I am not scared of them, I am fucking livid at their unthinkingly risking the lives of others.
You guys are scared to death of white supremacists.
There's only one of me, and I am not scared of white supremacists, I just despise them.
Is it reasonable to be fearful of COVID? Yes
Indeed.
but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
I despise the Liberals too, but they don't appear particularly fearful of COVID.
They become unhinged lunatics about it the way they listen to Saint Fauci
I don't particularly listen to Fauci; His bailiwick is on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. Why would I care about him, rather than our local experts?
Is it reasonable to be fearful of white supremacists? Sure, but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
Nah, they're all mouth. Like most bullies, they aren't to be feared, just opposed.
They also become unhinged lunatics about it. It's reasonable to become fearful of black supremacists, too. But liberals don't care about that type of racism. I don't mess around. I hate all types of racism. but since I'm not a coward, I can say that.
You can say anything. You don't need to stop being a coward in order to say stuff, even stupid stuff.
The bigger threat is the communist being appointed by Biden and his minions.
There's no such threat. You're being lied to, and you're allowing your fear to override your skepticism - just as the liars hoped you would.

Generation55

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When confronted with news that is scary and unbelievable, I generally choose to disbelieve, rather than to be scared, as people who lie in order to manipulate by evoking fear are commonplace, while genuinely scary situations that are hard to believe are very rare indeed.

The hallmark of right-wing supporters is their inclination to choose fear over skepticism. It's a major cognitive error, and the cause of much right-wing policy.

Oh you guys have fear, too. It's just on stuff that isn't as threatening. For example, you guys are scared to death of COVID.
I am not 'guys'; there's only one of me.

I am not scared to death of COVID; I understand the risk it poses, having studied some virology and the history of respiratory diseases since the Industrial Revolution.
Republicans are not. Even the people who tell you guys, "Yeah we don't care if we get it. Let's take a risk and not get the vaccine. We're only infecting people who are OK with taking the risk," you still yell at them.
That's got zero to do with fear, and everything to do with the fact that they are infecting people who are NOT OK with taking the risk. That they are too fucking stupid to recognise the threat they pose to others doesn't make them any less reprehensible; I am not scared of them, I am fucking livid at their unthinkingly risking the lives of others.
You guys are scared to death of white supremacists.
There's only one of me, and I am not scared of white supremacists, I just despise them.
Is it reasonable to be fearful of COVID? Yes
Indeed.
but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
I despise the Liberals too, but they don't appear particularly fearful of COVID.
They become unhinged lunatics about it the way they listen to Saint Fauci
I don't particularly listen to Fauci; His bailiwick is on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. Why would I care about him, rather than our local experts?
Is it reasonable to be fearful of white supremacists? Sure, but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
Nah, they're all mouth. Like most bullies, they aren't to be feared, just opposed.
They also become unhinged lunatics about it. It's reasonable to become fearful of black supremacists, too. But liberals don't care about that type of racism. I don't mess around. I hate all types of racism. but since I'm not a coward, I can say that.
You can say anything. You don't need to stop being a coward in order to say stuff, even stupid stuff.
The bigger threat is the communist being appointed by Biden and his minions.
There's no such threat. You're being lied to, and you're allowing your fear to override your skepticism - just as the liars hoped you would.

The people who are not choosing to get the vaccine will only end up giving to other people who also chose not to get the vaccine. If they truly didn't want to get COVID, they would have gotten the vaccine. Since they chose not to get the vaccine, then they agree to take a risk to be around people who also want to take that risk. Saying, "He might give COVID to my sweet grandmother!" doesn't mean anything if that sweet grandmother also chose to not get the vaccine.

You gotta really think about these things thoroughly.

Generation55

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Crazy how a perfect communist uptopian country like cuba still has crap cars from the 50's on their streets. Funny, isn't it?

1. The 1950s is the era when all the conservatives think we should all be as great as, isn’t it? “Take Our Country Back” is all about taking it back to the 50s.
2. If you’ve got a bunch of cars still running after 70 years, they aren’t “crap cars,” are they.
The rest of your posts just say more unsubstantiated stuff that’s been debunked dozens of times.
I’m frankly surprised that you don’t get angry at the sources that feed you this kind of information, they know it’s all been debunked, but they propagandize hoping they can get their marks to believe it and get angry over it and vote for the GOP, who will do nothing about it at all, just keep moving money from the pockets of the working man to the vaults of the ultra rich.

I’ve heard that a lot of people are starting to get very angry at folks like Alex Jones and OAN and Brietbart an Tucker Carlson for suckering them, and they’re not going to fall in line fo the ultra rich any more.

Well since I go by nothing but the facts, I will say that when Obama was President, the media loved the guy. He could do no wrong. He was The Savior. Then anti-establishment Trump came into office and the media despised him and treated him like dirt every single day of his Presidency hammering him relentlessly. A wimp would've quit after 1 day of that treatment. Trump took it every single day no-stop for 4 years. Then Biden came in and now the media loves him. Biden can do no wrong, either.

The question is why? Why did the establishment media despise Donald Trump but loved Obama and Biden? It's almost like Trump was actually for the people and the establishment hated him for it. The idea of a conservative being the actual rebel is an idea that is alien to many people. The funny thing is, the conservatives are the underdogs now and everyone knows it. The left has big tech, corporations, the media, and Hollywood under their control. Conservatives are portrayed nowhere. They have become the new counter-culture. It's become cool now to consider yourself a socialist or a communist and it's become rebellious to call yourself a capitalist. What a long way we've come.

We literally live in a society where it is considered racist to tell a black man that his life would be better if he got a job, yet those same people make fun of rural unemployed whites for not having a job and call them inbred hicks. Very racist.

bilby

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When confronted with news that is scary and unbelievable, I generally choose to disbelieve, rather than to be scared, as people who lie in order to manipulate by evoking fear are commonplace, while genuinely scary situations that are hard to believe are very rare indeed.

The hallmark of right-wing supporters is their inclination to choose fear over skepticism. It's a major cognitive error, and the cause of much right-wing policy.

Oh you guys have fear, too. It's just on stuff that isn't as threatening. For example, you guys are scared to death of COVID.
I am not 'guys'; there's only one of me.

I am not scared to death of COVID; I understand the risk it poses, having studied some virology and the history of respiratory diseases since the Industrial Revolution.
Republicans are not. Even the people who tell you guys, "Yeah we don't care if we get it. Let's take a risk and not get the vaccine. We're only infecting people who are OK with taking the risk," you still yell at them.
That's got zero to do with fear, and everything to do with the fact that they are infecting people who are NOT OK with taking the risk. That they are too fucking stupid to recognise the threat they pose to others doesn't make them any less reprehensible; I am not scared of them, I am fucking livid at their unthinkingly risking the lives of others.
You guys are scared to death of white supremacists.
There's only one of me, and I am not scared of white supremacists, I just despise them.
Is it reasonable to be fearful of COVID? Yes
Indeed.
but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
I despise the Liberals too, but they don't appear particularly fearful of COVID.
They become unhinged lunatics about it the way they listen to Saint Fauci
I don't particularly listen to Fauci; His bailiwick is on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. Why would I care about him, rather than our local experts?
Is it reasonable to be fearful of white supremacists? Sure, but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
Nah, they're all mouth. Like most bullies, they aren't to be feared, just opposed.
They also become unhinged lunatics about it. It's reasonable to become fearful of black supremacists, too. But liberals don't care about that type of racism. I don't mess around. I hate all types of racism. but since I'm not a coward, I can say that.
You can say anything. You don't need to stop being a coward in order to say stuff, even stupid stuff.
The bigger threat is the communist being appointed by Biden and his minions.
There's no such threat. You're being lied to, and you're allowing your fear to override your skepticism - just as the liars hoped you would.

The people who are not choosing to get the vaccine will only end up giving to other people who also chose not to get the vaccine.
That's simply not true.

The existence of a pool of virus circulating amongst the unvaccinated poses a serious and real risk of a new variant arising that can bypass the protection offered by the vaccine.

There's strong evidence that this is already happening.

Your simplistic viewpoint in which vaccines are perfect and permanently effective against all future variants is just plain wrong.

You gotta really think about these things thoroughly. And you can't even start to do that without an understanding of the underlying virology. Which you clearly lack.
If they truly didn't want to get COVID, they would have gotten the vaccine. Since they chose not to get the vaccine, then they agree to take a risk to be around people who also want to take that risk. Saying, "He might give COVID to my sweet grandmother!" doesn't mean anything if that sweet grandmother also chose to not get the vaccine.
But it surely does if she didn't make that choice.
You gotta really think about these things thoroughly.
That's good advice. You should try taking it.

barbos

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I generally have very low opinion about money people (all of them, regardless of the ideology) I had not heard about her until this particular issue came out. So I watched one of her long interviews. I did not change my opinion about money people.

Generation55

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Thought this was relevant to Biden discussion. I linked it to start at the exact spot of Biden's failures. He's only at 36% approval right now.

Generation55

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When confronted with news that is scary and unbelievable, I generally choose to disbelieve, rather than to be scared, as people who lie in order to manipulate by evoking fear are commonplace, while genuinely scary situations that are hard to believe are very rare indeed.

The hallmark of right-wing supporters is their inclination to choose fear over skepticism. It's a major cognitive error, and the cause of much right-wing policy.

Oh you guys have fear, too. It's just on stuff that isn't as threatening. For example, you guys are scared to death of COVID.
I am not 'guys'; there's only one of me.

I am not scared to death of COVID; I understand the risk it poses, having studied some virology and the history of respiratory diseases since the Industrial Revolution.
Republicans are not. Even the people who tell you guys, "Yeah we don't care if we get it. Let's take a risk and not get the vaccine. We're only infecting people who are OK with taking the risk," you still yell at them.
That's got zero to do with fear, and everything to do with the fact that they are infecting people who are NOT OK with taking the risk. That they are too fucking stupid to recognise the threat they pose to others doesn't make them any less reprehensible; I am not scared of them, I am fucking livid at their unthinkingly risking the lives of others.
You guys are scared to death of white supremacists.
There's only one of me, and I am not scared of white supremacists, I just despise them.
Is it reasonable to be fearful of COVID? Yes
Indeed.
but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
I despise the Liberals too, but they don't appear particularly fearful of COVID.
They become unhinged lunatics about it the way they listen to Saint Fauci
I don't particularly listen to Fauci; His bailiwick is on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. Why would I care about him, rather than our local experts?
Is it reasonable to be fearful of white supremacists? Sure, but not to the extreme that liberals take it.
Nah, they're all mouth. Like most bullies, they aren't to be feared, just opposed.
They also become unhinged lunatics about it. It's reasonable to become fearful of black supremacists, too. But liberals don't care about that type of racism. I don't mess around. I hate all types of racism. but since I'm not a coward, I can say that.
You can say anything. You don't need to stop being a coward in order to say stuff, even stupid stuff.
The bigger threat is the communist being appointed by Biden and his minions.
There's no such threat. You're being lied to, and you're allowing your fear to override your skepticism - just as the liars hoped you would.

The people who are not choosing to get the vaccine will only end up giving to other people who also chose not to get the vaccine.
That's simply not true.

The existence of a pool of virus circulating amongst the unvaccinated poses a serious and real risk of a new variant arising that can bypass the protection offered by the vaccine.

There's strong evidence that this is already happening.

Your simplistic viewpoint in which vaccines are perfect and permanently effective against all future variants is just plain wrong.

You gotta really think about these things thoroughly. And you can't even start to do that without an understanding of the underlying virology. Which you clearly lack.
If they truly didn't want to get COVID, they would have gotten the vaccine. Since they chose not to get the vaccine, then they agree to take a risk to be around people who also want to take that risk. Saying, "He might give COVID to my sweet grandmother!" doesn't mean anything if that sweet grandmother also chose to not get the vaccine.
But it surely does if she didn't make that choice.
You gotta really think about these things thoroughly.
That's good advice. You should try taking it.

What you say does make sense. This is why I think people should get the vaccine. But if they don't want to, we can't abduct them and jab them in the arm against their will. This isn't China or North Korea. I think people are just fed up that they were being lied to by the media about it non-stop since it started. First Fauci said that covid is no big deal and we shouldn;'t worry. Then he said we need to worry. Then he said no masks, then he said 1 mask then he said 2 masks then no mask then mask then no mask. It really has gotten ridiculous and you can see why people would get fed up at the "experts."

"Just give us 2 weeks to slow the spread" - Media and doctors, March 2020.

barbos

Contributor
"Just give us 2 weeks to slow the spread" - Media and doctors, March 2020.
I don't know why are you derailing your own thread but this is still valid.
We can not only slow this virus, we can eliminate it in just two weeks ..... of actual quarantine.

Generation55

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"Just give us 2 weeks to slow the spread" - Media and doctors, March 2020.
I don't know why are you derailing your own thread but this is still valid.
We can not only slow this virus, we can eliminate it in just two weeks ..... of actual quarantine.

You missed the point. It's been almost 2 years of "just 2 weeks to slow the spread." We went into lockdown. Didn't work.

Bomb#20

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Biden wants to appoint communist Saule Omarova to take over banking. ...

Here's a tweet from her:

"Until I came to the US, I couldn't imagine that things like gender pay gap still existed in today's world. Say what you will about old USSR, there was no gender pay gap there. Market doesn't always "know best.""

...
Why is this story not getting more attention? Because a lot of the people want Marxism to be ushered in. They are starting to get more and more blatant with this stuff.

Well, the evidence presented here is insufficient to establish whether Ms. Omarova is a communist, but it's quite sufficient to establish that she's not qualified to be put in any policy-making position. She's too gullible.

Gender pay gap in Russia

Of course the old USSR had a gender pay gap. How big an idiot would someone have to be not to know the Soviet authorities lied about that sort of thing?

barbos

Contributor
You missed the point. It's been almost 2 years of "just 2 weeks to slow the spread." We went into lockdown. Didn't work.
It did not work because small percentage of people actively sabotaged it, the rest sabotaged it passively.

And it worked in China.

barbos

Contributor
Of course the old USSR had a gender pay gap. How big an idiot would someone have to be not to know the Soviet authorities lied about that sort of thing?
No, there was no gender pay gap there. All salaries were known and fixed.
Of course US does not really have gender pay gap either, so the point is mute.

Generation55

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You missed the point. It's been almost 2 years of "just 2 weeks to slow the spread." We went into lockdown. Didn't work.
It did not work because small percentage of people actively sabotaged it, the rest sabotaged it passively.

And it worked in China.
It worked over there because they are very authoritarian. Trump was not authoritarian no matter how much people like to say he was. If he was, we would've been locked down without questions. Thank God Trump is the farthest thing from an authoritarian. Tell me, does China allow its people to have guns like Trump did?

barbos

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You missed the point. It's been almost 2 years of "just 2 weeks to slow the spread." We went into lockdown. Didn't work.
It did not work because small percentage of people actively sabotaged it, the rest sabotaged it passively.

And it worked in China.
It worked over there because they are very authoritarian. Trump was not authoritarian no matter how much people like to say he was. If he was, we would've been locked down without questions. Thank God Trump is the farthest thing from an authoritarian. Tell me, does China allow its people to have guns like Trump did?
So, now it is about Trump&guns?

I did not know Trump passed 2nd amendment. He must be a vampire or Highlander of some kind.

Generation55

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You missed the point. It's been almost 2 years of "just 2 weeks to slow the spread." We went into lockdown. Didn't work.
It did not work because small percentage of people actively sabotaged it, the rest sabotaged it passively.

And it worked in China.
It worked over there because they are very authoritarian. Trump was not authoritarian no matter how much people like to say he was. If he was, we would've been locked down without questions. Thank God Trump is the farthest thing from an authoritarian. Tell me, does China allow its people to have guns like Trump did?
So, now it is about Trump&guns?

I did not know Trump passed 2nd amendment. He must be a vampire or Highlander of some kind.

My point was that authoritarians come for your guns. Trump did not. He embraced the 2nd amendment. The only ones who talk about taking the guns are Democrat authoritarians. Strange, right?

Generation55

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You missed the point. It's been almost 2 years of "just 2 weeks to slow the spread." We went into lockdown. Didn't work.
It did not work because small percentage of people actively sabotaged it, the rest sabotaged it passively.

And it worked in China.

Well, it turns out the conspiracy theorists are somewhat right so far. They said it was never going to end and so far, it's not. Israel is the most vaccinated country in the world and they are closing their border. Weird how they need to do that despite being the most vaccinated and nobody calls them racist for closing their border. What an odd world we live in.

It's also strange that Klaus Schwab said, "You will own nothing and like it" about his plan to use CoVID to abandon capitalism and rule by authoritarianism. Really creepy stuff.

barbos

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My point was that authoritarians come for your guns. Trump did not. He embraced the 2nd amendment. The only ones who talk about taking the guns are Democrat authoritarians. Strange, right?
Can we skip all that and go straight to the merits of Many World Interpretations of Quantum Mechanics?