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Jeezus that’s not a good look. All that’s missing is the little mustache.

That's exactly right! If we just tweaked the photo to make it look like Biden is Hitler, he'd look like Hitler! That is so scary! Socialism! Socialism! Let's go hide somewhere. Not together as Mother said not to do that anymore. Somewhere separately, like in our own doomsday prepper bunkers. I'm bringing an AR-15, a Holy Bible, and ivermectin in mine, but not 5G. They use 5G to activate the microchips.
 

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It needed saying, and I am both slightly surprised that he said it, and simultaneously slightly surprised that he didn't say it sooner.

For years, the strategy was "When they go low, we go high." It takes a lot to admit that it was the wrong approach.

Now the "**** your feelings" crowd is all weepy that they've been called out, and I'm enjoying it.
 

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Biden managed to remove the optimism & hope VS bitterness and grudges from our us vs them politics in one speech. It's now officially just us vs them.
 

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Biden managed to remove the optimism & hope VS bitterness and grudges from our us vs them politics in one speech. It's now officially just us vs them.
Where them = MAGA fascists and us = Democrats/Independents/Republicans that haven't lost their mental faculties.

Of course, with the Dobbs case, and current new voter registration trends, it is also going to be "My Uterus" v "Conservative Males". Make no mistake, this speech was a call to rise up and vote the MAGA fascists out.

The economy added 315,000 jobs last month, gas prices are easing, Biden has signed a good deal of legislation, and Dobbs has lit a fire under women voters. Historically, a red tide was in order. But this could become a blue tsunami. The impact of Dobbs can not be over-stated or predicted. The GOP most certainly underappreciated the impact Dobbs would have on the electorate.

Granted, still could have red tsunami too. What I will say is you can't trust polling for the 2022 election because Dobbs will make turnout models impossible to get accurate.
 

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Biden managed to remove the optimism & hope VS bitterness and grudges from our us vs them politics in one speech. It's now officially just us vs them.
Eh, I don’t really agree. I think it’s not just important but absolutely essential to identify and address problems directly. The fact that a former president of the United States stole documents that are not just classified but top secret, concealed them, lied about having them, delayed returning stolen property and then only partially returned what he was legally required to return is extremely serious stuff. It’s far, far worse that Trump is credibly suspected of sharing, revealing or even selling these documents pr information contained within the documents or their facsimiles. People DIED after Trump requested the names of agents while he was POTUS. As disturbing is that members of his party—elected officials! have not called him
out and previous few have done anything to dissociate themselves from Trump.

I don’t care if peoples feelings get hurt when Biden says out loud what everybody knows.
 

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Ok, maybe I need to word this differently. I meant to say that MAGA folks can't hide behind the republican banner. Does that make it clearer now?
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vibe towards it. And that's awesome.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


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Pointing out that people who storm the Capitol to overthrow election results are a danger to our democracy is not fascist - it is common fucking sense.

Pointing out that those who either justify that storming or excuse it are a danger to our democracy is not fascist - it is common fucking sense.

It would be fascist if someone were to advocate beating up or jailing those who excused, justified or applauded those who stormed the Capitol but President Biden did none of that.

It is more than ironic than any supporter of Trump would call this speech "fascist".

I think President Biden is correct, but I also think his speech was mostly preaching to the choir. No one could reasonably say it was a speech meant to unify this country.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
Left-wing fascism is Venezuela. We ain't Biden ain't Chavez. The oil fields aren't being nationalized.

Right-wing fascism looks like this, when the guy falsely proclaims widespread voter fraud without ever taking it to the courts and then tells his supporters they need to act to "save democracy", and half of the party he was a member of, voted in the House to overthrow votes.
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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
Left-wing fascism is Venezuela. We ain't Biden ain't Chavez. The oil fields aren't being nationalized.

Right-wing fascism looks like this, when the guy falsely proclaims widespread voter fraud without ever taking it to the courts and then tells his supporters they need to act to "save democracy", and half of the party he was a member of, voted in the House to overthrow votes.
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That's wasn't facism. That was a riot. Fascism is the merger of the state and corporation. Like when the Biden Admin told social media companies to censor content it didn't like.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party.
Actually he said the MAGA supporters are a problem to democracy. That wasn't an opinion, it was witnessed by our entire nation on January 6th, 2021.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
Really? So you'd have been okay if the Trump administration had social media companies censor posts it determined fraudulent.? Yeah, whatever. If you think it's okay for the government to decide who is allowed to speak and who isn't, you may be a fascist.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
Really? So you'd have been okay if the Trump administration had social media companies censor posts it determined fraudulent.? Yeah, whatever. If you think it's okay for the government to decied who is allowed to speak and who isn't, you may be a fascist.
Try to focus - the issue is not the truthfulness of the content but the truthfulness of the attribution Your example is one where someone in the administration wanted something that fraudulently claimed it was from the administration taken down. Regardless of the content of the contested claim, it was a lie to say it was from the administration. So either the claim should be edited to point out it is not from the administration or it should be taken down.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
Really? So you'd have been okay if the Trump administration had social media companies censor posts it determined fraudulent.? Yeah, whatever. If you think it's okay for the government to decied who is allowed to speak and who isn't, you may be a fascist.
Try to focus - the issue is not the truthfulness of the content but the truthfulness of the attribution Your example is one where someone in the administration wanted something that fraudulently claimed it was from the administration taken down. Regardless of the content of the contested claim, it was a lie to say it was from the administration. So either the claim should be edited to point out it is not from the administration or it should be taken down.
Sorry, here are more examples.

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If you watch MSNBC you'd probably be unaware of all this.
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
Really? So you'd have been okay if the Trump administration had social media companies censor posts it determined fraudulent.? Yeah, whatever. If you think it's okay for the government to decied who is allowed to speak and who isn't, you may be a fascist.
Try to focus - the issue is not the truthfulness of the content but the truthfulness of the attribution Your example is one where someone in the administration wanted something that fraudulently claimed it was from the administration taken down. Regardless of the content of the contested claim, it was a lie to say it was from the administration. So either the claim should be edited to point out it is not from the administration or it should be taken down.
Sorry, here are more examples.

Fbk9csaagAAGO8w

Fbk9csYaUAEpRDV

Fblo1_WXoAQxO9F


If you watch MSNBC you'd probably be unaware of all this.
Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
Really? So you'd have been okay if the Trump administration had social media companies censor posts it determined fraudulent.? Yeah, whatever. If you think it's okay for the government to decied who is allowed to speak and who isn't, you may be a fascist.
Try to focus - the issue is not the truthfulness of the content but the truthfulness of the attribution Your example is one where someone in the administration wanted something that fraudulently claimed it was from the administration taken down. Regardless of the content of the contested claim, it was a lie to say it was from the administration. So either the claim should be edited to point out it is not from the administration or it should be taken down.
Sorry, here are more examples.

Fbk9csaagAAGO8w

Fbk9csYaUAEpRDV

Fblo1_WXoAQxO9F


If you watch MSNBC you'd probably be unaware of all this.
I don't watch Fox or MSNBC. From what I can tell, your examples are about getting the
"truth" out, not deleting what is presented.
 

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Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
More like Q-tards are so fucking incompetent they can't even look good when they fash (an ideology that is at least 60% parades)

But it's pretty telling that you believe a speech about condemning fascism and promoting democracy is fascistic in your eyes. Unsurprising, but telling.
He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke. After all:

“The Fascist conception of life…accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State.” —Benito Mussolini


FblxsG7XoAA40rJ
LOL - using Fox "news" as a source is pretty telling.

You need to explain how trying to get a FRAUDULENT claim (one that purports to be from X but is not from X) taken down has has anything to do with fascism if you want your argument to be taken seriously instead of disingenuous partisan propaganda.
Really? So you'd have been okay if the Trump administration had social media companies censor posts it determined fraudulent.? Yeah, whatever. If you think it's okay for the government to decied who is allowed to speak and who isn't, you may be a fascist.
Try to focus - the issue is not the truthfulness of the content but the truthfulness of the attribution Your example is one where someone in the administration wanted something that fraudulently claimed it was from the administration taken down. Regardless of the content of the contested claim, it was a lie to say it was from the administration. So either the claim should be edited to point out it is not from the administration or it should be taken down.
Sorry, here are more examples.

Fbk9csaagAAGO8w

Fbk9csYaUAEpRDV

Fblo1_WXoAQxO9F


If you watch MSNBC you'd probably be unaware of all this.
I'm missing where the strong arming is coming from? This sounds like a collaboration. The idea that alt-right BS and opinions aren’t allowed all over social media because of this is hilarious though. Keep tilting at 'dem windmills.
 
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It needed saying, and I am both slightly surprised that he said it, and simultaneously slightly surprised that he didn't say it sooner.
I think it's hilarious that the same folks who were pushing the "Sleepy Joe is weak and suffering from dementia" are now pushing the "OMG Biden is Hitler" line. Because...red lighting turns a "doddering old man who barely knows where he is" into a super-genius bent on world domination?

As for the speech itself? Good. Not great (Biden does not have the charisma or delivery of Obama), but necessary and delivered right on time.

Another strong jobs report. Gas prices falling. MAGA candidates slipping in the polls, the mid-term incumbent losses in Congress now in doubt, and of course Trump turning out to have seriously compromised the national security of the United States. Turns out "Dark Brandon" has good timing.
 

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He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party.
He did nothing of the sort. You didn't provide any context so I'm just going to assume you're butthurt over what Trump and his MAGAtards actually fucking did. Firstly that called pointing out reality. Secondly, MAGAtards were never half of America. Trump lost the popular vote, never had approval ratings above 44% and the majority of his own party don't want him to run again. By no measurement are the fascist you worship "half of America". Your view is Franz Reichelt level wrong.
I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan.
Let me be the first to congratulate you for waking up from your coma.
 

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Ok, maybe I need to word this differently. I meant to say that MAGA folks can't hide behind the republican banner. Does that make it clearer now?
I wish that were true but MAGA now owns the GOP. Until and unless the GOP decides does to throw off the MAGA mantle.

I don't think they own the GOP just yet. There is still some careful infighting and flat out anti-Trumpism within the party. The best way to describe it is, traditional republicans VS Trump is our lord republicans. Biden's speech won't serve as a rallying cry for traditional republicans but it sure doesn't hinder them either.
 

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Ok, maybe I need to word this differently. I meant to say that MAGA folks can't hide behind the republican banner. Does that make it clearer now?
I wish that were true but MAGA now owns the GOP. Until and unless the GOP decides does to throw off the MAGA mantle.

I don't think they own the GOP just yet. There is still some careful infighting and flat out anti-Trumpism within the party. The best way to describe it is, traditional republicans VS Trump is our lord republicans. Biden's speech won't serve as a rallying cry for traditional republicans but it sure doesn't hinder them either.
I realize there are a small handful of traditional Republicans who have not succumbed to the Trump beast. But if they are not willing to take the hand offered by Biden—Biden who has spent his career working with people with diametrically opposed viewpoint, for the common good—then they really are not any better than the Trump beasts. No matter how much we wish they were and no matter how much they used to be. They cheered the creature who insulted honorable Republicans such as McCain, even though he didn’t have the guts to do it until McCain was dead. They took the dark money that flowed from that cesspool. Even McCain’s own daughter. How ironic that his daughter has turned out to be a soulless gorm and Dick Cheney’s daughter—with whom I disagree vehemently on virtually every political position, turned out to have some honor. Greatness apparently does skip generations,

I hope some Republicans have enough honor and decency to cast off Trump. I am not holding my breath.
 

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That's exactly right! If we just tweaked the photo to make it look like Biden is Hitler, he'd look like Hitler! That is so scary! Socialism! Socialism!
Not just Socialism; National Socialism. Which is the exact same thing, only worse, because if it says 'Socialism', it's got to be Socialism. I mean, who ever heard of a Nazi telling lies? That's crazy talk...
 

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He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party.
No, he very specifically condemned far less than half of America as enemies of the state, because when their preferred candidate lost the election, they chose to attempt to violently overthrow the state.

That doesn't strike me as an unreasonable thing to do; It's pretty much how 'enemies of the state' are actually defined.
 

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He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party.
No, he very specifically condemned far less than half of America as enemies of the state, because when their preferred candidate lost the election, they chose to attempt to violently overthrow the state.

Ah, but you see, the MAGA Republicans think they're the overwhelming majority of Americans. Indeed...the only "real" Americans! The only reason Trump lost the popular vote - twice - was the Hillary/Deep State/Socialist rigging of the election! Trump actually got eleventy billion votes, because everyone loves him (except the aforementioned cabal, left wing Hollywood, and paid George Soros/Antifa agitators)!

And as I'm sure you'll remember, the GOP (MAGA and "RINO") have long said they need to "take our country back," as it clearly belongs to them! It is and has always been a Conservative Christian nation, and anytime the libtards take over, something has gone terribly wrong! The MAGAs hear this all the time from the most popular news outlets like OAN, the most popular social media sites like Gab, Gettr, and of course Truth Social, and when they go to the Piggly Wiggly with their AR 15 over their shoulder and their "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirt, they see their fellow patriots doing the same, reinforcing their obviously correct belief that they are the overwhelming majority.

As for who is an "enemy of the state," that's easy: Whomever Trump names as one.

There, wasn't that easy?
 

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Has a certain, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer" look about it.
Good. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with Hitler-like tendencies is a good guy with Hitler-like tendencies. It's about time some very fine people were in charge of the Whitehouse.

Doesn't matter anyways, you're dead fucking wrong. This has a Brotherhood of Nod vide towards it. And that's awesome.
Yeah! Fascism is cool when my side does it!
Left-wing fascism is Venezuela. We ain't Biden ain't Chavez. The oil fields aren't being nationalized.

Right-wing fascism looks like this, when the guy falsely proclaims widespread voter fraud without ever taking it to the courts and then tells his supporters they need to act to "save democracy", and half of the party he was a member of, voted in the House to overthrow votes.
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That's wasn't facism. That was a riot. Fascism is the merger of the state and corporation. Like when the Biden Admin told social media companies to censor content it didn't like.
Which is the de-facto intent of the right.
 

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He condemned half of America as enemies of the state because they chose not to vote for him or his party. I can't recall, ever, a president using a primetime address to be so brazingly hateful and partisan. But to say that Biden is not the facist is kind of joke.
What, you never heard Trump speak??? Every time he was criticized claimed the person was un-American and used far more coarse language about them than anything Biden has ever said.
 

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... Fascism is the merger of the state and corporation. Like when the Biden Admin told social media companies to censor content it didn't like.

 Fascism
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]
Fascism Definitions | What does fascism mean? | Best 10 Definitions of Fascism
The top one:
A system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, private economic enterprise under centralized governmental control, belligerent nationalism, racism, and militarism, etc.
 

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Opinion | Trump and MAGA Republicans are in a rage because Biden's speech hit his target - The Washington Post

Kevin McCarthy on Twitter: "Instead of trying to bring our country together to solve the MANY problems he has created, President Biden has chosen to divide, demean, and disparage his fellow Americans—simply because they disagree with his policies.

Mr. President: you owe millions of Americans an apology. (pic link)" / Twitter


Ronna McDaniel on Twitter: "Angry. Divisive. Political. Stubborn. Failure. (pic link)" / Twitter
She's the GOP Chairwoman

Rep. Jim Jordan on Twitter: "Unity. (pic link)" / Twitter

In coming days, these Republicans will retreat into right-wing media safe spaces to fulminate without facing cross-examination. But when they venture into mainstream forums, they should be pressed on specifics.
Then going into detail about President Biden's speech.
On that latter score, in fact, some scholars of political breakdown fear that the MAGA takeover of large swaths of the GOP really does portend future political violence and instability. Not civil war, necessarily, but higher levels of violence directed at influencing or contesting political outcomes.

And so, at a fundamental level, Biden’s core claim — that Trump and the swaths of the GOP allied with him pose a foundational threat — is absolutely reasonable.
 

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Read the Full Transcript of Biden’s Speech in Philadelphia - The New York Times
I speak to you tonight from sacred ground in America: Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pa.

This is where America made its declaration of independence to the world more than two centuries ago, with an idea unique among nations: that in America, we’re all created equal.

This is where the United States Constitution was written and debated. This is where we set in motion the most extraordinary experiment of self-government the world has ever known.
Looks like he chose his location very deliberately, for the symbolism.


Takeaways From Biden’s Speech in Philadelphia - The New York Times

It’s still about Trump.
... Mr. Biden tacitly acknowledged that his predecessor still looms over the politics of the moment, like it or not. And he took it to Mr. Trump directly, calling him out by name and seeking to differentiate between “the MAGA Republicans” loyal to Mr. Trump and what he deemed reasonable Republicans who still stand by the American democratic experiment.

“There’s no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans,” he said. “And that is a threat to this country.”
Approval ratings be damned.
But on Thursday, the White House rolled the dice, apparently assuming that lying low would not help matters and hoping that a big, televised speech might remind voters why they chose Mr. Biden in 2020. Republicans have caricatured the president as a doddering old man, unable to assemble a string of coherent sentences. Rather than let such aspersions go unchallenged, the White House moved to dispel them with a forceful speech that would, if nothing else, rally the Democratic base, which was already energized by the Supreme Court’s decision to end the nearly 50-year-old right to an abortion.
Good that he is willing to seem less cowardly. After the cowardice of the Clinton and Obama Admins, that is a step forward. Abraham Lincoln and FDR weren't whimpering cowards, perpetually trying to make their opponents happy even as their opponents denied their legitimacy.

The two Americas, divided and suspicious.

After Trump's divisiveness,
In his speech, Mr. Biden took pains to say, “Not every Republican, not even a majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans; not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology.” But a Republican Party still dominated by Mr. Trump’s Make America Great Again ideology was not going to accept that distinction, not when the tribe of “Never Trump” Republicans has shriveled to a tiny cohort.

On Thursday, it was the Republicans’ turn to denounce the divisiveness of a president who was scorning them. The Republican National Committee cast Mr. Biden as “the divider-in-chief” who “epitomizes the current state of the Democrat Party: one of divisiveness, disgust, and hostility towards half the country.”

But at times, the Republican response felt like an extended taunt of “I know you are, but what am I?”

It’s not the economy: a possibly stupid position.
On Thursday night, he seemed to set that aside to make the election about an entirely different issue: the fate of democratic pluralism.

“America is still the beacon to the world, an ideal to be realized, a promise to be kept,” he concluded. “There’s nothing more important, nothing more sacred, nothing more American. That’s our soul.”
 

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The idea that all Trump voters are MAGA is untrue. I know some Trump voters and the only reason they voted for Trump is that they did not want Democrat to win. So, the conclusion that Biden called all Trump voters threats is false.
 
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