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26-year-old Daytona Beach officer shot in head, $100K reward for suspect information

WESH said:
A 26-year-old police officer has been wounded in a shooting near the area of Kingston Avenue in Daytona Beach, officials told WESH 2 News.
Officials said Officer Jason Raynor was approaching a suspicious vehicle on Kingston Avenue when he was shot by the suspect, who then took off.
Raynor, who was shot in the head, was taken to Halifax Health Medical Center.
Officials say Raynor is out of surgery and in critical condition, and has shown some improvement

The suspect is one Othal "O-Zone" Wallace, a member of black militias NFAC and New Black Panthers, the latter being blatantly black supremacist.

Heavy said:
According to Wallace’s Facebook page, he is a member of the NFAC militia and has walked in armed marches with the group during protests in Louisville against the police killing of Breonna Taylor and in Tulsa. He also marched with the group at Stone Mountain in Georgia.
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According to a Facebook post by attorney Malik Zulu Shabazz, Wallace also recently joined the New Black Panther Party. Shabazz, in a now-deleted June 15 post, “I would like to welcome the young warrior O-Zone Wallace into the New Black Panther Party for Self Defense under our new leadership. Brother O-Zone, a Florida man, is a good man with serious field experience. Brother O-Zone respects me and my history and I respect him. I predict Brother Warrior O-Zone Wallace will be instrumental in the re-building of the New Black Panther Party and the entire movement at large.”
[...]
According to Young, investigators searched a nearby apartment belonging to Wallace and found a rifle, handgun, three bulletproof vests, multiple high-capacity magazines and boxes of rifle ammo.
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I hope the officer recovers quickly and fully.
But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...
 

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But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...

Show your work.

1. Identify the "powers that be." (McDonald's Corp? Mitch McConnell? Some guest lecturer at some university one time?)
2. Show that they "pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about."
3. Establish an actual causal relationship between that behavior and the event described in the OP.
 

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But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...

Who even knows what the mental health of this person is?

When they are white and crazy, as happens all the time, that's OK.
 

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1. Identify the "powers that be."

Mainstream politicians and mainstream media. They focus exclusively on "white supremacists" ignoring black supremacists like Wallace.
2. Show that they "pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about."
Example:
U.S. lays out plan to confront white supremacist violence

We should be against all forms of supremacism, all forms of extremism and all forms of political violence.
We should not single only one of them because of political correctness or CRT or some other fashionable nonsense.

3. Establish an actual causal relationship between that behavior and the event described in the OP.

By ignoring black supremacism and black extremism it is allowed to fester like an open sore.
 

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When they are white and crazy, as happens all the time, that's OK.
Proud Boys etc. are getting vigorously prosecuted whenever they put their foot wrong.
On the other hand, black and white left-wing extremists as well as black militiamen usually get a pass.

I do not see any evidence that this guy had a diagnosable mental health condition. He is just a racist criminal.
 

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When they are white and crazy, as happens all the time, that's OK.
Proud Boys etc. are getting vigorously prosecuted whenever they put their foot wrong.
On the other hand, black and white left-wing extremists as well as black militiamen usually get a pass.

You mean when they commit treason and break into the Capitol based on lies?
 

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You mean when they commit treason and break into the Capitol based on lies?
If we did a January 6th drinking game, we'd all suffer from alcohol poisoning. That was one day of rioting, and it gets brought up all the fucking time!
In any case, those people are getting prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Unlike most of the #BLM and Antifa rioters.

But to get back to O-Zone Wallace, you know that had the officer managed to shoot first, there'd be #BLM riots and Ben Crump would be saying that "he didn't do nothing". :rolleyes:
 

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When they are white and crazy, as happens all the time, that's OK.
Proud Boys etc. are getting vigorously prosecuted whenever they put their foot wrong.
On the other hand, black and white left-wing extremists as well as black militiamen usually get a pass.
Can you give us recent examples of organized black and left-wing extremists as well as black militiamen that have been carrying out domestic terrorist acts that have got a pass?
 

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Mainstream politicians and mainstream media. They focus exclusively on "white supremacists" ignoring black supremacists like Wallace.

Example:
U.S. lays out plan to confront white supremacist violence
Your article indicates that politicians react to a deadly attack on the nation's capitol that was partly planned and facilitated by known white supremacist groups. Your article does NOT indicate that that politicians are ignoring black supremacists. Try again or admit failure.
We should be against all forms of supremacism, all forms of extremism and all forms of political violence.
We should not single only one of them because of political correctness or CRT or some other fashionable nonsense.
Do you have any evidence that politicians and main stream media are ignoring authoritarian extremism from Russia and China? Do you have any evidence that politicians and the main stream media ignore Islamic extremism? Do you have any evidence that politicians and the main stream media are ignoring black extremism?
3. Establish an actual causal relationship between that behavior and the event described in the OP.

By ignoring black supremacism and black extremism it is allowed to fester like an open sore.

Fail.

What does that even mean?

Show your work. Connect the dots. Show some evidence that this event could have been prevented if the main stream media and politicians didn't "ignore" black extremism.
 

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Can you give us recent examples of organized black and left-wing extremists as well as black militiamen that have been carrying out domestic terrorist acts that have got a pass?

How do you define "domestic terrorist acts"? For example, would you consider occupying territory with armed force as has happened in Seattle, Portland, Atlanta, and Minneapolis?
These photos are from Atlanta. Vast majority of the occupiers have not been arrested or prosecuted.
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What about attacking government buildings such as court houses or ICE offices? I do not think anybody was ever prosecuted for the attack on the ICE office in Atlanta.
ICE's Atlanta field office targeted in overnight destructive demonstration


Getting back to O-Zone. Do you think his attempted murder should mean greater scrutiny for black militias such as NFAC or New Black Panthers? Or do you think only white and/or right wing militias should be scrutinized by the federal government?
I think all extremist groups and militias should be scrutinized equally.
 

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Your article does NOT indicate that that politicians are ignoring black supremacists.
Singling out one kind of extremism means you are ignoring others.

Do you have any evidence that politicians and main stream media are ignoring authoritarian extremism from Russia and China?
We are talking about domestic extremists like NFAC or New Black Panthers.

Do you have any evidence that politicians and the main stream media ignore Islamic extremism?
These days? Most definitely!

Do you have any evidence that politicians and the main stream media are ignoring black extremism?
Show me instances where politicians and mainstream media are focusing on black extremism.
If anything, they pretend that black extremists are "civil rights activists" and cover them favorably. See how armed black militia marches lasts year were covered by media.


Fail.
What does that even mean?
Your lack of reading comprehension is not my failure.

Show your work. Connect the dots. Show some evidence that this event could have been prevented if the main stream media and politicians didn't "ignore" black extremism.
I can't prove this cowardly attack would not have happened regardless, if that's what you mean. But politicians are definitely treating black extremists as not a significant threat. Which O-Zone has shown to be a serious mistake.
 

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How do you define "domestic terrorist acts"? For example, would you consider occupying territory with armed force as has happened in Seattle, Portland, Atlanta, and Minneapolis?
No, I would not consider that domestic terrorism.
These photos are from Atlanta. Vast majority of the occupiers have not been arrested or prosecuted.
What about attacking government buildings such as court houses or ICE offices? I do not think anybody was ever prosecuted for the attack on the ICE office in Atlanta.
Were those attacks part of an organized group?


Getting back to O-Zone. Do you think his attempted murder should mean greater scrutiny for black militias such as NFAC or New Black Panthers? Or do you think only white and/or right wing militias should be scrutinized by the federal government?
it would depend on the the motivation of O-zone. Suppose he is just a nut job or a loner.
I think all extremist groups and militias should be scrutinized equally.
You have a real funny way of showing it.
 

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But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...
what is it you're so fond of saying?
play stupid games, win stupid prizes?

this is the result of flooding a populace with guns while simultaneously oppressing a segment of that population and actively invalidating the core tenets of the social contract.
when people have cause to think you're going to kill them, they start trying to kill you first.
 

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Meh. White people shoot at cops all the time after being pulled over. I don't remember Derek ever posting about one of those incidents.
 

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Singling out one kind of extremism means you are ignoring others.
Wrong. No. That is not what that means at all. This isn't kindergarten Derec. Adults can pay attention to more than one thing at a time.

We are talking about domestic extremists like NFAC or New Black Panthers.
So you definitely concede that white extremism isn't the only extremism that the media and politicians pay attention to.

Do you have any evidence that politicians and the main stream media ignore Islamic extremism?
These days? Most definitely!

Then pony up.

Do you have any evidence that politicians and the main stream media are ignoring black extremism?
Show me instances where politicians and mainstream media are focusing on black extremism.
If anything, they pretend that black extremists are "civil rights activists" and cover them favorably. See how armed black militia marches lasts year were covered by media.
You know that a person can be in a black militia AND be a civil rights activist, right?
Fail.
What does that even mean?
Your lack of reading comprehension is not my failure.
Your insistence on using sweeping and vague sentences when confronted with requests for evidence of direct causal relationships is definitely your problem.
Show your work. Connect the dots. Show some evidence that this event could have been prevented if the main stream media and politicians didn't "ignore" black extremism.
I can't prove this cowardly attack would not have happened regardless, if that's what you mean. But politicians are definitely treating black extremists as not a significant threat. Which O-Zone has shown to be a serious mistake.
SO.. it sounds like you CAN'T actually connect this event with the behaviors of the politicians and main stream media.... Huh.. who would have thought???
 

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SO.. it sounds like you CAN'T actually connect this event with the behaviors of the politicians and main stream media.... Huh.. who would have thought???

Surprised?
When someone tries to equate the significance of a single isolated act by an individual - whether it's this guy or the guy who killed 16 people at a Boulder Supermarket - with the significance of a right wing white supremacist MOB storming the Capitol to prevent Congress from doing its Constitutionally mandated job ...

... you might as well ignore them.

When Property Damage is equated with killing police officers and wounding over a hundred police officers...

Yeah. It's probably safe to ignore them.
 

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You mean when they commit treason and break into the Capitol based on lies?
If we did a January 6th drinking game, we'd all suffer from alcohol poisoning. That was one day of rioting, and it gets brought up all the fucking time!
In any case, those people are getting prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Unlike most of the #BLM and Antifa rioters.

But to get back to O-Zone Wallace, you know that had the officer managed to shoot first, there'd be #BLM riots and Ben Crump would be saying that "he didn't do nothing". :rolleyes:

Which antifa henchman is not being prosecuted?

What did he do?
 

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New Black Panthers are bad guys. Just nowhere near the scale of the scumbags on the right. Finding one scumbag doesn't prove the two sides are equal.
 

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Meh. White people shoot at cops all the time after being pulled over. I don't remember Derek ever posting about one of those incidents.

Back in the 90s and early 2000s the group that killed the most police officers was the Sovereign Citizen Movement. Whom were largely made up of white people, politically right wing, and believed in conspiracy theories to back up there ideology.

I don’t know how true this is in the new Twenties.
 

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American Prisons are filled with the majority of black people and Derec is acting like the USA is letting black people get away with everything. lol
 

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Jesus F. Christ, you people. You know what's just about as pathetically sad as Derec running in here with a boner every day to tell us something bad a fucking black guy did? It's the reflexive need to push back on it by defending the indefensible with these insane rationalizations and justifications attempting to minimize [insert shitty thing some black guy did that day.]

Two things can simultaneously be true, folks.

Believe it or not, at the very same time,

a) Derec can be a blinders-on, cherrypicking twat for obsessively focusing solely on shitty indefensible things that black people (or muslims) have done,

AND (and this is the one that needs pointed out)

b) The bad thing that the black guy or muslim did in Derec's offense du jour can really be a bad thing, that doesn't need (or deserve) defending.

I'm as squishy Liberal as any Lefty on this board, I reckon, and Othal "O-Zone" Wallace sounds like a dangerous psychopathic shitbag to me. I wouldn't want to live next door to that asshole. He's a menace to society, and it's simple dumb luck that he didn't kill somebody. As it is, I hope he goes to jail for a long, long, long time. For the life of me I don't get the Left's motivations to defend shit like this--I feel lucky not to share it.

Do I wish Derec had the objectivity he pretends (exceptionally poorly) to have? Well, of course. That would be nice. But that isn't the world that we live in. And neither is it one in which it's "okay" for a violent, racist, armed-to-the-teeth professional shit-stirrer like Mr. O-Zone to shoot a cop (or anybody) in the fucking head.
 

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But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...

Show your work.

1. Identify the "powers that be." (McDonald's Corp? Mitch McConnell? Some guest lecturer at some university one time?)
2. Show that they "pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about."
3. Establish an actual causal relationship between that behavior and the event described in the OP.

I'm pretty sure I've pointed out a number of times the Black Isrealites, antiwhite racists, and how they present a radical threat that warrants scrutiny as a potential terrorism source.

Nobody here seems to be pretending such do not exist. Merely , we identify that there are 10 white supremacist terrorist cells for every 1 black-or-other-supremecist cell, and that they are all bad.

I'm pretty sure I started a whole thread about it at some point, in fact? Or maybe it was just like, the second comment or whatever.
 

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Jesus F. Christ, you people. You know what's just about as pathetically sad as Derec running in here with a boner every day to tell us something bad a fucking black guy did? It's the reflexive need to push back on it by defending the indefensible with these insane rationalizations and justifications attempting to minimize [insert shitty thing some black guy did that day.]

Two things can simultaneously be true, folks.

Believe it or not, at the very same time,

a) Derec can be a blinders-on, cherrypicking twat for obsessively focusing solely on shitty indefensible things that black people (or muslims) have done,

AND (and this is the one that needs pointed out)

b) The bad thing that the black guy or muslim did in Derec's offense du jour can really be a bad thing, that doesn't need (or deserve) defending.

I'm as squishy Liberal as any Lefty on this board, I reckon, and Othal "O-Zone" Wallace sounds like a dangerous psychopathic shitbag to me. I wouldn't want to live next door to that asshole. He's a menace to society, and it's simple dumb luck that he didn't kill somebody. As it is, I hope he goes to jail for a long, long, long time. For the life of me I don't get the Left's motivations to defend shit like this--I feel lucky not to share it.

Do I wish Derec had the objectivity he pretends (exceptionally poorly) to have? Well, of course. That would be nice. But that isn't the world that we live in. And neither is it one in which it's "okay" for a violent, racist, armed-to-the-teeth professional shit-stirrer like Mr. O-Zone to shoot a cop (or anybody) in the fucking head.

I don't see anyone on this thread (myself including) defending the black guy. What I do see is Derec using this tragedy to push his agenda and people responding to that. I've donated to the go fund for the police officer. If you are so pissed off about this I suggest you do the same.

Note sure if it's ok to post here but whatever https://gofund.me/8fded71e
 

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And for the record, Othal Wallace can eat a dick too.
 

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Hey Derec, FYI, the government that is letting black supremacists do whatever they want has joined the hunt for Othal Wallace. Just wanted to let Derek Chauvin's bleeding heart inside of you know, everything will be ok.
 

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You mean when they commit treason and break into the Capitol based on lies?
If we did a January 6th drinking game, we'd all suffer from alcohol poisoning. That was one day of rioting, and it gets brought up all the fucking time!

OMG, how terrible that we haven't forgotten that people tried to overthrow the government of the United States at the behest of the then sitting POTUS who didn't like the election results! I mean, it's been five and half months already. It's not like we're talking about Mary Winkler here.

We should all be happy to do what your overlord Trump declares we should do and forget about the whole thing. Big nothing burger.
 

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A few of my friends in my circle joked that January 6th should be a national holiday to add to the other holidays that embarrass white people. I don't share their opinions, but theirs is, Christmas is a Holiday for the delusional, Thanksgiving is a holiday for when a bunch of scoundrels screwed over native Americans, and July 4th is when a bunch of wusses waited until an ocean separated them from their better-armed bullies to fight back.

I think that's all racist and ignorant (seriously). But they are right about January 6th being an embarrassment.
 

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26-year-old Daytona Beach officer shot in head, $100K reward for suspect information

WESH said:
A 26-year-old police officer has been wounded in a shooting near the area of Kingston Avenue in Daytona Beach, officials told WESH 2 News.
Officials said Officer Jason Raynor was approaching a suspicious vehicle on Kingston Avenue when he was shot by the suspect, who then took off.
Raynor, who was shot in the head, was taken to Halifax Health Medical Center.
Officials say Raynor is out of surgery and in critical condition, and has shown some improvement

The suspect is one Othal "O-Zone" Wallace, a member of black militias NFAC and New Black Panthers, the latter being blatantly black supremacist.

Heavy said:
According to Wallace’s Facebook page, he is a member of the NFAC militia and has walked in armed marches with the group during protests in Louisville against the police killing of Breonna Taylor and in Tulsa. He also marched with the group at Stone Mountain in Georgia.
[...]
According to a Facebook post by attorney Malik Zulu Shabazz, Wallace also recently joined the New Black Panther Party. Shabazz, in a now-deleted June 15 post, “I would like to welcome the young warrior O-Zone Wallace into the New Black Panther Party for Self Defense under our new leadership. Brother O-Zone, a Florida man, is a good man with serious field experience. Brother O-Zone respects me and my history and I respect him. I predict Brother Warrior O-Zone Wallace will be instrumental in the re-building of the New Black Panther Party and the entire movement at large.”
[...]
According to Young, investigators searched a nearby apartment belonging to Wallace and found a rifle, handgun, three bulletproof vests, multiple high-capacity magazines and boxes of rifle ammo.
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I hope the officer recovers quickly and fully.
But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...

I don't think the two men in those photos are the same individual and neither looks that much like Othal Wallace's mug shot:
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American Prisons are filled with the majority of black people
Is it the majority? I know for sure it is disproportionate to population, but not sure about it being a majority.
In any case, a solution would be to stop committing a disproportionate share of crime. For example, blacks commit homicides at ~5x the rate of whites.

and Derec is acting like the USA is letting black people get away with everything. lol
Often that is the case. Take this O-Zone. Long rap sheet. Many felony arrests, but they have been pleaded down to misdemeanors each time. That's getting away with shit.
 

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I'm pretty sure I've pointed out a number of times the Black Isrealites, antiwhite racists, and how they present a radical threat that warrants scrutiny as a potential terrorism source.
I have not seen you do so before, but I am glad you do so now.

Nobody here seems to be pretending such do not exist.
The media and politicians are when they only condemn white supremacy but never black or Latin[ao] supremacy.

Merely , we identify that there are 10 white supremacist terrorist cells for every 1 black-or-other-supremecist cell, and that they are all bad.

Where do you get that number? I think the major difference is that white supremacists are shunned, but black supremacists are not. Take Al Sharpton. Racist, homophobe, but gets MSNBC gig and frequently seen with President Obama.
Or Louis Farrakhan. Racist, antisemite. A number of Democratic politicians like Rep. Danny Davis (R-Illinois) who praised him as a "great man" with no ill consequences to his career.

I'm pretty sure I started a whole thread about it at some point, in fact? Or maybe it was just like, the second comment or whatever.
I do not recall seeing it.
 

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Hey Derec, FYI, the government that is letting black supremacists do whatever they want has joined the hunt for Othal Wallace. Just wanted to let Derek Chauvin's bleeding heart inside of you know, everything will be ok.

Not sure about that. Maybe he'll escape to Cuba like Joanne Chesimard, murderer and heroine of #BLM and Women's March 2017.
 

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OMG, how terrible that we haven't forgotten that people tried to overthrow the government of the United States at the behest of the then sitting POTUS who didn't like the election results! I mean, it's been five and half months already.
#BLMers have been doing a lot more damage with their rioting and occupations. And not only property damage, but deaths too. Including an 8 year old girl in Atlanta.

We should all be happy to do what your overlord Trump declares we should do and forget about the whole thing. Big nothing burger.

My overlord? I did not even vote for him either time.
 

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I don't think the two men in those photos are the same individual and neither looks that much like Othal Wallace's mug shot:
Looks like him to me. In any case, it has been confirmed that he was member of these militias.
 

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Back in the 90s and early 2000s the group that killed the most police officers was the Sovereign Citizen Movement. Whom were largely made up of white people, politically right wing, and believed in conspiracy theories to back up there ideology.

Not necessarily. There are many black "sovereign citizens".
Example Korryn Gaines, who threatened police with a long gun and got shot herself.
Or William "Nietzsche" Kinney, who led the Antifa Red House occupation because he wanted to live in house without paying the mortgage.
 

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New Black Panthers are bad guys. Just nowhere near the scale of the scumbags on the right. Finding one scumbag doesn't prove the two sides are equal.

Why do you think they are not "nowhere near the scale" as the right-wing militias?
Racist scumbag is racist scumbag. No matter your hue.
 

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Which antifa henchman is not being prosecuted?
Most crimes committed during the #BLM/Antifa riots are not being prosecuted.

Example: NYC looters.
Most Riot, Looting Cases From Last Year Dropped by NYC DAs

NBC NYC said:
One year ago, parts of New York City felt out of control as crowds of looters were seen smashing storefront after storefront.
The mayhem continued night after night from late May into June. At one point, there was even a so-called “looting dance party” on the streets of SoHo.
The mobs seemingly pillaged at will. Many were caught on tape, some with their faces visible. Others even posted on social their own videos of their actions those nights.
[...]
Since then, the NYPD says the Bronx district attorney and the courts have dismissed most of those cases – 73 in all. Eighteen cases remain open and there have been 19 convictions for mostly lesser counts like trespassing, counts which carry no jail time.
Jessica Betancourt owns an eyeglass shop that was looted and destroyed along Burnside Avenue in the Bronx last June.
“Those numbers, to be honest with you, is disgusting,” Betancourt said when told of the few cases being prosecuted.

It's no use arresting these scumbags if leftist DAs are dropping charges against vast majority of them. Similar things are going in other cities, esp. Portland where 90% of rioting charges have been dismissed by their lefty DA.

Not even Molotov-throwing terrorists Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman were charged by the NYC prosecutors, and if not for Barr's DOJ, they would have gotten off scot-free.
 

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When someone tries to equate the significance of a single isolated act by an individual - whether it's this guy or the guy who killed 16 people at a Boulder Supermarket - with the significance of a right wing white supremacist MOB storming the Capitol to prevent Congress from doing its Constitutionally mandated job ...

And again January 6th. Of course, that single day of rioting in a single city pales in significance to the months of #BLM/Antifa rioting in many cities that caused a lot of property damage and deaths. Including to federal government buildings btw.

When Property Damage is equated with killing police officers and wounding over a hundred police officers...
#BLMers and other far-left activists have murdered police officers too. But that is hardly mentioned because the Left is committed to the false narrative that #BLM are the good guys.
But what about David Dorn, murdered in cold blood by #BLM rioters and looters last year?
Second man charged in connection with death of retired St. Louis police captain David Dorn, 3 others charged with burglary
 

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Meh. White people shoot at cops all the time after being pulled over. I don't remember Derek ever posting about one of those incidents.

If a white right wing militiaman had shot a cop in the head and was at large, I am sure you or Elixir would start a thread about it with the quickness.
Probably both of you would start thread, and you'd have to merge them too.
 

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Back in the 90s and early 2000s the group that killed the most police officers was the Sovereign Citizen Movement. Whom were largely made up of white people, politically right wing, and believed in conspiracy theories to back up there ideology.

Not necessarily. There are many black "sovereign citizens".
Example Korryn Gaines, who threatened police with a long gun and got shot herself.
Or William "Nietzsche" Kinney, who led the Antifa Red House occupation because he wanted to live in house without paying the mortgage.

That’s why I wrote “largely” and not all.
 

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American Prisons are filled with the majority of black people
Is it the majority? I know for sure it is disproportionate to population, but not sure about it being a majority.
In any case, a solution would be to stop committing a disproportionate share of crime. For example, blacks commit homicides at ~5x the rate of whites.

and Derec is acting like the USA is letting black people get away with everything. lol
Often that is the case. Take this O-Zone. Long rap sheet. Many felony arrests, but they have been pleaded down to misdemeanors each time. That's getting away with shit.

Oh please Derec. You're the one parading around shouting rubbish about black supremacy groups not being a concern. Sure, focus on my inaccurate statement about the actual prison populations and ignore the fact that black people, in general, aren't being allowed to get away with anything which obviously (if your IQ is high enough) would include black supremacy groups.

That pleading down felony to misdemeanors happens with white people too. Duh.
 

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Hey Derec, FYI, the government that is letting black supremacists do whatever they want has joined the hunt for Othal Wallace. Just wanted to let Derek Chauvin's bleeding heart inside of you know, everything will be ok.

Not sure about that. Maybe he'll escape to Cuba like Joanne Chesimard, murderer and heroine of #BLM and Women's March 2017.

Your fantasy didn't become true so you may want to return that lotion to Amazon. He's been captured.
 

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OMG, how terrible that we haven't forgotten that people tried to overthrow the government of the United States at the behest of the then sitting POTUS who didn't like the election results! I mean, it's been five and half months already.
#BLMers have been doing a lot more damage with their rioting and occupations. And not only property damage, but deaths too. Including an 8 year old girl in Atlanta.

Fucking bullshit, Derec. This makes me more angry than almost anything I've ever read, anywhere.

The 1/6 insurrection was an armed attempt to overthrow our government. They hung a noose for our vice president, whom I despise but that doesn't matter whether I like him or not. And they did this at the behest of the sitting POTUS.

And there you are all bent out of shape about having your favorite route in a city you've never visited blocked by a demonstration.
If you want to talk about people with guns killing children, why not bring up Sandy Hook? Or any of the other school shootings.

Or how about this: How about any of the 112 children shot by police between 2015 and 2020?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/12/children-police-shootings/

We should all be happy to do what your overlord Trump declares we should do and forget about the whole thing. Big nothing burger.

My overlord? I did not even vote for him either time.

Then quit carrying water for him and his base.
 

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When someone tries to equate the significance of a single isolated act by an individual - whether it's this guy or the guy who killed 16 people at a Boulder Supermarket - with the significance of a right wing white supremacist MOB storming the Capitol to prevent Congress from doing its Constitutionally mandated job ...

And again January 6th. Of course, that single day of rioting in a single city pales in significance to the months of #BLM/Antifa rioting in many cities that caused a lot of property damage and deaths. Including to federal government buildings btw.

In your mind.

This was a direct attack on our nation by citizens motivated by the power madness and ego of an outgoing POTUS. The fact that you cannot see or acknowledge this is really beyond the pale.

But then, you care more about property than you do about human lives.

Or maybe it's just because almost all of the insurrectionists were white. And the lives of congress were saved by the quick thinking and courage of a black man.
 

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New Black Panthers are bad guys. Just nowhere near the scale of the scumbags on the right. Finding one scumbag doesn't prove the two sides are equal.

Why do you think they are not "nowhere near the scale" as the right-wing militias?
Racist scumbag is racist scumbag. No matter your hue.

"Scale" as in numbers, not as in wrongness.
 

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You mean when they commit treason and break into the Capitol based on lies?
If we did a January 6th drinking game, we'd all suffer from alcohol poisoning. That was one day of rioting, and it gets brought up all the fucking time!

That was an armed insurgency intended to topple the democratically elected government of the country by invading the seat of government. And they succeeded in disrupting our lawmakers from doing their job for several hours. That's why it gets brought up all the time. Because its a pretty big fucking deal.

Most reasonable people agree that ALL forms of violent extremism are bad. I don't think you will find many people here rejecting this basic premise. I do wonder why you only highlight bad acts committed by black people. Where is your outrage when white gunmen go on shooting rampages and kill people? Where are all the threads you have started to express your outrage at these incidents?
 

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But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...
Not this shit again. Not certain how many times Derec has posted links to stories of white people who murdered police officers. Oh wait... yes I am.
 

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It's just the usual act of blaming the effects for the cause. The very concept of racial supremacy is a European invention. Any idiot walking this earth advocating black supremacy is not only wrong & dangerous, they are also following the lead of their sensei's.
 
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