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BLM cofounder: "We are trained Marxists"

BLM is both very concerned about black lives
But only when killed by a cop or an (off) white civilian. We had >100 shootings with 14 fatalities over the weekend, and not a peep out of #BLM. So spare me. I am not buying they genuinely care about "black lives".

and a prime example of Marxist social theory put into practice.
At least you admit they are Marxist. That ideology was the ideology that over the course of the 20th century proved to be the most destructive to human flourishing and happiness.

It's not a secret that they have a Marxist orientation. Most people aren't as mindlessly paranoid about Marx as you are, though.
 
I guess the Soviet Union, the Khmer Rouge, and Mao had nothing Marxism.
In the video, Cullors only mentions having studied Marx (something anyone with even a bare foundation in Western socioeconomic theory will have done). Do you have another video in which she endorses Leninism?

She called herself and Garza "trained Marxists". A Marxist is somebody who supports the Marxist ideology.
 
It's not a secret that they have a Marxist orientation. Most people aren't as mindlessly paranoid about Marx as you are, though.
Marxism, as an ideology, is as bad as fascism. It is not "paranoid" to realize that Marxism is dangerous and to oppose it.
 
Destroying who by their roots?
Obviously the people. Pronoun antecedent.

The bourgeoisie? Regaining control of the public discourse is definitely something that follows naturally from Marx, but I don't think anyone thinks all of the rich people will somehow die because a few former slaveholders lost their monuments. The destruction of the upper classes will prove a bit more complicated than that.
Marxists want to destroy the people's connected to their historical and cultural roots. Including the founding fathers (Washington, Jefferson) and other presidents such as Grant and Roosevelt. None are safe from the Marxist purge.

No idea what you're talking about with respect to Islam,
Same idea that the preexisting culture of a people must be erased. That's why the Taliban destroyed the Buddhas. That's why Hagia Sofia was converted to a mosque by the Turks (who invaded the area from Central Asia remember - they are not indigenous to what is now called "Turkey"). And so on.

Marx hated religion and did not believe that it could ever result in a positive good for the working classes, as it was always easier for the rich to control the poor through religion than the other way around.
And yet modern day Marxists have a soft spot for Islam and Islamists. Go figure.
 
It's not a secret that they have a Marxist orientation. Most people aren't as mindlessly paranoid about Marx as you are, though.
Marxism, as an ideology, is as bad as fascism. It is not "paranoid" to realize that Marxism is dangerous and to oppose it.
People who say they are "Marxists" sometimes mean they use Marxism to analyze society which does not mean they are necessarily "Marxist" in a political sense. Can you point to the sense in which they mean they are "Marxists"?
 
Obviously the people. Pronoun antecedent.


Marxists want to destroy the people's connected to their historical and cultural roots. Including the founding fathers (Washington, Jefferson) and other presidents such as Grant and Roosevelt. None are safe from the Marxist purge.

No idea what you're talking about with respect to Islam,
Same idea that the preexisting culture of a people must be erased. That's why the Taliban destroyed the Buddhas. That's why Hagia Sofia was converted to a mosque by the Turks (who invaded the area from Central Asia remember - they are not indigenous to what is now called "Turkey"). And so on.

Marx hated religion and did not believe that it could ever result in a positive good for the working classes, as it was always easier for the rich to control the poor through religion than the other way around.
And yet modern day Marxists have a soft spot for Islam and Islamists. Go figure.

Your babbling bears no relation to reality. Who are "the people" in this case? What does the push against historical slave owners have to do with it? What Marxists are pro-Islamic? Why do you keep confusing the study of Karl Marx with the endorsement of people like Lenin and Pol Pot? (This is like thinking that the Protestant Irish must be secretly pro-Catholic since they both studied Jesus)
 
The folks protesting in the streets about the cruelly authoritarian practices of a ruling class have read Marx? Wow, color me shocked. :D

Having read Marx is one thing. Being a supporter of Marxism is quite another. That the #BLM is basically a Marxist organisation explains why they go around destroying historical statues btw.
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They are just following the Soviet playbook.

In this way they are not dissimilar to Islamism. Which is one of the reasons the Far Left sees Islamists as allies.

You really think BLM wants black people to forget about their history of being enslaved???
 
The folks protesting in the streets about the cruelly authoritarian practices of a ruling class have read Marx? Wow, color me shocked. :D

Having read Marx is one thing. Being a supporter of Marxism is quite another. That the #BLM is basically a Marxist organisation explains why they go around destroying historical statues btw.
They are just following the Soviet playbook.

In this way they are not dissimilar to Islamism. Which is one of the reasons the Far Left sees Islamists as allies.

There is room for everyone to coexist in this country, and everyone is free to hold and voice their own opinions. This includes Marxists, racists, misogynists, homophobes, and gasp, even Muslims.
 
It's not a secret that they have a Marxist orientation. Most people aren't as mindlessly paranoid about Marx as you are, though.
Marxism, as an ideology, is as bad as fascism. It is not "paranoid" to realize that Marxism is dangerous and to oppose it.

The opposite of fascism isn't Marxism, it is communism. Fascism is not an economic theory, it is a theory based on racial socialism, maintaining racial purity to better society. Like white superiority, know-nothingism, the KKK, Trumpism, etc.

Marxism is an economic theory that is unrealistic because it requires individuals to almost completely suppress their individual ambitions to the needs of society as a whole. The opposite of Marxism is Austrian/Libertarian economics, a completely unrealistic economic theory because it requires the society to almost completely suppress the needs of society as whole to the many various individuals' ambitions. History has taught us repeatedly that there are legitimate needs both for the society as a whole and for individual freedoms and that they have to balanced against one another.

Austrian/Libertarian economic theory is arguably a more unrealistic theory than Marxism is because it is anarchy, which has a bad name for a very good reason. That is why the neoliberals had to change the name of the theory to the "Libertarian" one, not that they wanted anarchy, but only the Austrian/Libertarian economic theory of the free market combines the academic support for the idea that a self-regulating, self-organizing free market can exist with the support for no government interference in the market.

Both Marxism and Libertarianism are extreme theories that have no place being used in a government. However, Libertarian economics is at the heart of our current neoliberalism with its nods to the classical liberalism of 1830's England, the failed economic theories based on the work of the classical economists, primarily Ricardo.

You can't be considered a student of economics if you haven't read Karl Marx and the other classical economists. But of the classical economists Marx was the only one who saw the problems that capitalism caused in the middle of the industrial revolution. He had insights to the problems and why they occurred, where he failed was in his solutions for the problems. He didn't live to see the populism in the early 20th century, by the two Roosevelts in the US and others in Europe including Keynes and Bismark. Marx didn't trust democracy to solve the worse abuses, he saw revolutions as the only possible solution.

Since our current governing economic theory springs from Austrian/Libertarian economic theory it is no surprise that some of the people who are disadvantaged by the economic theory would turn to Marxism as a solution. This is the problem with governing the nation's economy with extreme theories that disadvantage 99% of the members of the nation in order to increase the incomes of the 1% of the well off. You can't fault people for going to extremes when they are being disadvantaged by your extreme theories.

As I have said many times the biggest threat to our capitalistic economy and our democracy, isn't socialism, it is our current neoliberalism, which has distorted our economy to enrich the already rich by suppressing the wages of everyone else.
 
The opposite of fascism isn't Marxism, it is communism. Fascism is not an economic theory, it is a theory based on racial socialism, maintaining racial purity to better society. Like white superiority, know-nothingism, the KKK, Trumpism, etc.

Nonsense. I don't know what fascism is, but I do know it was in Italy before Germany. And the Italian fascists included Jews. And the Italian fascists protected Italian Jews until the Nazis took over. The present usage of the term "fascist" is meaningless.

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The opposite of fascism isn't Marxism, it is communism.
What's the difference?
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Marxism is an economic theory that is unrealistic because it requires individuals to almost completely suppress their individual ambitions to the needs of society as a whole.
Marxism goes beyond mere economics, and Cullors/Garza almost certainly see their Maxism more broadly than a mere economic theory. After all, "Black Lives Matter" is not an economics club.
 
You really think BLM wants black people to forget about their history of being enslaved???
No, overemphasis of that bit of history is key to their aim to divide the American people. But they hate anything positive about US history. That's why they want to bring Washington, Jefferson, Grant, Wilson, and even Roosevelt down.
 
There is room for everyone to coexist in this country, and everyone is free to hold and voice their own opinions.
If you voice any opinion critical of "Black Lives Matter" you may lose your job.

Marxism has always been a totalitarian ideology, not tolerant of diverging opinions.
 
There is room for everyone to coexist in this country, and everyone is free to hold and voice their own opinions.
If you voice any opinion critical of "Black Lives Matter" you may lose your job.

Marxism has always been a totalitarian ideology, not tolerant of diverging opinions.

Not any more since they are criticizing Israel (Is ra third-rael more like)

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I guess the point is that BLM does not care about black lives. It does not care about police misconduct. It is a front to push Marxist politics.

And what, in your opinion, are "marxist politics?" Does Marxist politics not care about the exploited classes? Does it not want to curb the exploiters?
I thought that was one of its main points.
 
The folks protesting in the streets about the cruelly authoritarian practices of a ruling class have read Marx? Wow, color me shocked. :D

Having read Marx is one thing. Being a supporter of Marxism is quite another. That the #BLM is basically a Marxist organisation explains why they go around destroying historical statues btw.
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They are just following the Soviet playbook.

In this way they are not dissimilar to Islamism. Which is one of the reasons the Far Left sees Islamists as allies.

Having read John Birch is one thing ........ being a Nazi is .......

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Balance one overstep with another provides a better picture donchano.
 

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Having read Marx is one thing. Being a supporter of Marxism is quite another.

Having read John Birch is one thing ........ being a Nazi is .......
Funny story about that. Marx was not a Marxist*. John Birch was not a John Bircher.

(* Of course, Marx at least actually wrote the drivel the Marxists were inspired by.)
 
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