Chloroquine (and Trump) Debunked

[Elixir]

When people tally up the PINO's 18,000+ lies, do they retroactively add the ones that are only proven false months later?
As is so often the case, he is not just wrong, but tragically wrong. Believe Trump at your own peril.

Study finds no benefit, higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19

In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate. The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.

Not an overwhelming sample size but I'm sure the way the PINO is handling this thing there will be many more potential subjects.

 

[Patooka]

Wait, so this entire thread was based on a bullshit premise? That can't be, this guy is right all the time! At least April is not too far away and this pandemic will be over so we can laugh about the hysteria the fake media caused.

Seriously, how many times does it have to be said you will be safer if you listen and take the advice of medical experts and not talking heads who have doubled down on this pandemic being a hoax? I'm an obstinate cunt, but even I understand the futility of being contrarian to harsh reality.

 

[Elixir]

After mocking Trump for promoting hydroxychloroquine, JOURNALISTS PROVEN CORRECT

More Deaths, No Benefit

"I regret that I have but two feet to put in my mouth"
- TFT Trumpsucker

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care ... Hydroxychloroquine made no difference in the need for a breathing machine, either.

Researchers did not track side effects, but noted a hint that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs.

This is among the greatest of Trump's recent accomplishments, as it only cost a relatively few lives.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Note: Two very similar threads merged.

 

[Elixir]

Wait, so this entire thread was based on a bullshit premise? That can't be, this guy is right all the time! At least April is not too far away and this pandemic will be over so we can laugh about the hysteria the fake media caused.

Seriously, how many times does it have to be said you will be safer if you listen and take the advice of medical experts and not talking heads who have doubled down on this pandemic being a hoax? I'm an obstinate cunt, but even I understand the futility of being contrarian to harsh reality.

It's true that the presumed idiot who said we'd be laughing about this by April never specified what year. He also guaranteed we'd be up and running by April 12th. I wonder if he'll be laughing and claiming victory in April 2023.

 

[Half-Life]

Wait, so this entire thread was based on a bullshit premise? That can't be, this guy is right all the time! At least April is not too far away and this pandemic will be over so we can laugh about the hysteria the fake media caused.

Seriously, how many times does it have to be said you will be safer if you listen and take the advice of medical experts and not talking heads who have doubled down on this pandemic being a hoax? I'm an obstinate cunt, but even I understand the futility of being contrarian to harsh reality.

Notice my claim about De Blasio went unrefuted.

You guys were big on the idea of releasing some prisoners. De Blasio did that. Now, he's shocked criminals are committing crimes.

We conservatives warned you guys about that. It's another instance of us being right and the media sweeping it under the rug.

 

[fromderinside]

We conservatives warned you guys about that. It's another instance of us being right and the media sweeping it under the rug.

Hopefully we won't. After all most crimes criminals are committing are against conservatives who stole from the poor.

Robin Hoods. That's it. De Blasio's released criminals committing crimes are Robin Hoods.

I understand such are very, very, popular.

 

[BH]

If the doctors were so smart why are they doctors and not president of the United States? Derp derp derp

 

[Elixir]

If people are starving, why are there empty seats in restaurants?

 

[Elixir]

It's another instance of us being right ...

Who is "us"? You and the frog in your pocket? Or is it you and Cheato?
About as right as this from 03-16-2020, 05:37 PM - you, parroting the PINO:

... by April we will be laughing going,
"Remember how everyone panicked over the coronavirus
because the media started fear mongering*?"

Or this reassuring guarantee from 3-25-2020:

This quarantine will work. I guarantee it. April 12 we will be up and running.
The cases are going to start declining in the U.S. starting around the next few days.
By April 1, we will see a steady downstream and be on our way out.

I do sense a steady downstream all right... there might be a treatment for that by the time a Covfefe-19 vaccine is developed.

 

[Patooka]

Wait, so this entire thread was based on a bullshit premise? That can't be, this guy is right all the time! At least April is not too far away and this pandemic will be over so we can laugh about the hysteria the fake media caused.

Seriously, how many times does it have to be said you will be safer if you listen and take the advice of medical experts and not talking heads who have doubled down on this pandemic being a hoax? I'm an obstinate cunt, but even I understand the futility of being contrarian to harsh reality.

Notice my claim about De Blasio went unrefuted.

You guys were big on the idea of releasing some prisoners. De Blasio did that. Now, he's shocked criminals are committing crimes.

We conservatives warned you guys about that. It's another instance of us being right and the media sweeping it under the rug.

Okay, if this is the hill you want to die on, here we go.

Firstly, your entire story is a Glenn Beck rant based on a tabloid Murdoch piece. That's enough there to dismiss it out of hand. Secondly, going from the original source*, the level of recidivism is 3 percent. The national average is around 40 percent. Thirdly, these are jails and not prisons - apparently in America there's a difference. Lastly, you have a little thing called the Eighth Amendment, which any half decent lawyer can make the claim for someone being exposed to a life threatening pandemic whilst simply awaiting trial for purse snatching or carrying weed.

There. Hope that clears everything up. We now resume our daily dose of Half-life being hilariously wrong about everything.

*Side note, why do you never cite the primary articles on the very rare times you actually provide sources? It gives the impression you know your argument is piss weak and you are shielding it's lack of credibility with a veneer of ambiguity)

 

[Elixir]

We now resume our daily dose of Half-life being hilariously wrong about everything.

I was thinking it would be nice to give Halfie his own subforum in the Humor section, and just move all his crap there.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

We now resume our daily dose of Half-life being hilariously wrong about everything.

I was thinking it would be nice to give Halfie his own subforum in the Humor section, and just move all his crap there.

That would be an outstanding public service.

 

[bilby]

We now resume our daily dose of Half-life being hilariously wrong about everything.

I was thinking it would be nice to give Halfie his own subforum in the Humor section, and just move all his crap there.

That would be an outstanding public service.

Yeah, but were not allowed to be out standing in public anymore.

 

[Bronzeage]

Wait, so this entire thread was based on a bullshit premise? That can't be, this guy is right all the time! At least April is not too far away and this pandemic will be over so we can laugh about the hysteria the fake media caused.

Seriously, how many times does it have to be said you will be safer if you listen and take the advice of medical experts and not talking heads who have doubled down on this pandemic being a hoax? I'm an obstinate cunt, but even I understand the futility of being contrarian to harsh reality.

Notice my claim about De Blasio went unrefuted.

You guys were big on the idea of releasing some prisoners. De Blasio did that. Now, he's shocked criminals are committing crimes.

We conservatives warned you guys about that. It's another instance of us being right and the media sweeping it under the rug.

Okay, if this is the hill you want to die on, here we go.

Firstly, your entire story is a Glenn Beck rant based on a tabloid Murdoch piece. That's enough there to dismiss it out of hand. Secondly, going from the original source*, the level of recidivism is 3 percent. The national average is around 40 percent. Thirdly, these are jails and not prisons - apparently in America there's a difference. Lastly, you have a little thing called the Eighth Amendment, which any half decent lawyer can make the claim for someone being exposed to a life threatening pandemic whilst simply awaiting trial for purse snatching or carrying weed.

There. Hope that clears everything up. We now resume our daily dose of Half-life being hilariously wrong about everything.

*Side note, why do you never cite the primary articles on the very rare times you actually provide sources? It gives the impression you know your argument is piss weak and you are shielding it's lack of credibility with a veneer of ambiguity)

There's not really a difference between prisons and jails, but in use, jails tend to be operated by cities or counties and are set up for short term incarceration and holding prisoners awaiting trial. Prisons are more likely operated by state government and house prisoners with longer sentences, including life terms, and the condemned.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

That would be an outstanding public service.

Yeah, but were not allowed to be out standing in public anymore.

But you can still be out standing in your field.

 

[Patooka]

Okay, if this is the hill you want to die on, here we go.

Firstly, your entire story is a Glenn Beck rant based on a tabloid Murdoch piece. That's enough there to dismiss it out of hand. Secondly, going from the original source*, the level of recidivism is 3 percent. The national average is around 40 percent. Thirdly, these are jails and not prisons - apparently in America there's a difference. Lastly, you have a little thing called the Eighth Amendment, which any half decent lawyer can make the claim for someone being exposed to a life threatening pandemic whilst simply awaiting trial for purse snatching or carrying weed.

There. Hope that clears everything up. We now resume our daily dose of Half-life being hilariously wrong about everything.

*Side note, why do you never cite the primary articles on the very rare times you actually provide sources? It gives the impression you know your argument is piss weak and you are shielding it's lack of credibility with a veneer of ambiguity)

There's not really a difference between prisons and jails, but in use, jails tend to be operated by cities or counties and are set up for short term incarceration and holding prisoners awaiting trial. Prisons are more likely operated by state government and house prisoners with longer sentences, including life terms, and the condemned.

Thanks for the clarification. I was aware there is a difference, just wasn't certain what. I though it was something like one was used before a trial and one was used after.

 

[bilby]

 

[barbos]

You can't make this shit up.

 

[Lumpenproletariat]

When people tally up the PINO's 18,000+ lies, do they retroactively add the ones that are only proven false months later?
As is so often the case, he is not just wrong, but tragically wrong. Believe Trump at your own peril.

Study finds no benefit, higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19

In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate. The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.

Not an overwhelming sample size but I'm sure the way the PINO is handling this thing there will be many more potential subjects.

The President has finally clarified this: You take the hydroxychloroquine with a cocktail including disinfectant and a tablespoon of fish-tank cleaning fluid, and injections of Lysol into the lungs.