Christian Evangelist: Anyone Who Dies Isn’t “Operating in the Laws of God”

[phands]

Wow....this guy is weapons-grade stupid.....

Christian preacher Andrew Wommack has always been one of those guys known for making wildly ridiculous claims in the name of Jesus. Last year, he even criticized Christians who complained about cancer, saying cancer was really “no big deal” since Jesus would save you in the afterlife.


Now he’s saying that if you die, it’s totally your fault. He made the argument during his livestreaming Bible Study yesterday.


Wommack’s argument is that God has the power to heal everybody. All we need to do is follow His spiritual “laws.” Therefore, people who die must have disobeyed God somewhere along the line.




… God is not the one who’s failing to heal any single person. God has provided healing. He has generated the power, the power source is on the inside of you, and if you aren’t seeing healing, it’s because you aren’t connecting these wires…


… God doesn’t just heal one person and not heal another person. He has provided healing for every person, but you’ve got to learn those laws and cooperate with them. And if you aren’t cooperating — for instance, this law about what you say. If you’re speaking death and telling everybody, “Man, I think I’m gonna die. I’ve only got a month to live!” You are hung by your tongue! You are killing yourself.
It’s like picking up a wire and then, when you die, people will say, “Why didn’t God heal this person?” God did heal that person! They killed themself by not operating in the laws of God.


Considering the human death rate is literally 100% over time, either the most devout people in the world are ultimately no better, in God’s eyes, than the worst sinners… or Wommack is talking out of his ass.


Since there’s a Bible in front of him, I’ll go with the latter.




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[Cheerful Charlie]

Genesis 6
³ And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

Genesis 6
³ And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Sure, but ...

John 11:25-26

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

As long as you ignore the "even though they die" bit, he has biblical support for his harebrained ideas. And ignoring one bit while stressing another is what so many xians are so very good at.

 

[DrZoidberg]

In the Christian context, fatal cancer and disease isn't a punishment at all. It's simply a "lesson". The same can be said about life in general.

For a Christian the main act is in Heaven.

So viewing anything as punishment isn't getting the Christian message. That preacher has failed to grasp the core of the Christian argument. To a Christian, how fortunate you are in life is irrelevant. What matters is your attitude to it

 

[Keith&Co.]

So viewing anything as punishment isn't getting the Christian message. That preacher has failed to grasp the core of the Christian argument. To a Christian, how fortunate you are in life is irrelevant. What matters is your attitude to it

but then, YOU fail to grasp the core of Christain marketing.
If you are successful in life as a Christain, then that's because God loves you.
If you're unsuccessful, as a Christain, then it's because God loves you and will not give you a load greater than you're able to carry. You're being given a chance to show your faith. And besides, the next life will have riches waiting for you in Heaven.
If you're successful as a non-Christain, you're misled by material goods and should be more concerned with your afterlife disposition.
If you're unsuccessful as a non-Christain, you should consider converting. Not gonna promise you you'll get material goods NOW, but you'll get spiritual happy-joy-joy, and then material goods in the afterlife. Material goods that you're supposed to ignore, now.

 

[DrZoidberg]

So viewing anything as punishment isn't getting the Christian message. That preacher has failed to grasp the core of the Christian argument. To a Christian, how fortunate you are in life is irrelevant. What matters is your attitude to it

but then, YOU fail to grasp the core of Christain marketing.
If you are successful in life as a Christain, then that's because God loves you.
If you're unsuccessful, as a Christain, then it's because God loves you and will not give you a load greater than you're able to carry. You're being given a chance to show your faith. And besides, the next life will have riches waiting for you in Heaven.
If you're successful as a non-Christain, you're misled by material goods and should be more concerned with your afterlife disposition.
If you're unsuccessful as a non-Christain, you should consider converting. Not gonna promise you you'll get material goods NOW, but you'll get spiritual happy-joy-joy, and then material goods in the afterlife. Material goods that you're supposed to ignore, now.

Sure, that's how it's often sold. But you'd have to squint really hard when reading the Bible to find this in the pages of it.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Sure, that's how it's often sold. But you'd have to squint really hard when reading the Bible to find this in the pages of it.

Oooooh, an extra-biblical idea the Christains think they're getting from their God. Like their resistance to abortion?

 

[DrZoidberg]

Sure, that's how it's often sold. But you'd have to squint really hard when reading the Bible to find this in the pages of it.

Oooooh, an extra-biblical idea the Christains think they're getting from their God. Like their resistance to abortion?

ha ha... touché

 

[Jobar]

I wonder how regularly he takes up serpents, and drinks deadly poisons, as per Mark 16:18. After all, that verse clearly says "They shall..."