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I find that astonishing; Most people in their 0s can't even walk at sea level.People in their 0s have summited Mt Rainer, about 14k feet
I find that astonishing; Most people in their 0s can't even walk at sea level.People in their 0s have summited Mt Rainer, about 14k feet
Microspikes/snowshoes are my limit. If I need crampons it's too much. There have been times I've debated about an ice axe--but only as a tool to tame some of the remains in melt season, not for it's intended purpose.In the 80s when living in Portalnd I used to go up n Mt hood with crampons and ice axe. Around 10k feet. I never felt it, but that s differnt tan living at 1ok feet or higher.
People in their 0s have summited Mt Rainer, about 14k feet..
The test woud be taking a cognitive and physical equity test at low altitude and at 10k feet after a day.
Or you can measure your level walking heart rate and blood oxygen level at low altitude and 10k feet to see how harder your heart is working. Meters are cheap and in drug stores. It would be a good experiment.
My heart efficiency metric is 30% insted of a typical; 80%. I would have a hard time at high altitude. I would not get enough O2 around my body.
I would think most 9 year olds could walk at sea level just fine.I find that astonishing; Most people in their 0s can't even walk at sea level.People in their 0s have summited Mt Rainer, about 14k feet
*sigh*I would think most 9 year olds could walk at sea level just fine.I find that astonishing; Most people in their 0s can't even walk at sea level.People in their 0s have summited Mt Rainer, about 14k feet
A BBC Panorama documentary about global warming made a number of false claims, an internal investigation by the broadcaster has found. The programme Wild Weather, presented by climate editor Justin Rowlatt, said deaths worldwide were rising due to extreme weather caused by climate change – whereas the opposite is true. It also claimed Madagascar was on the verge of the first famine caused by climate change – despite other factors being involved.
Well thank goodness this was exposed. Now we know that temperatures on Earth aren't increasing relatively quickly and sea levels aren't slowly increasing / warming.The Ministry of Truth (AKA BBC) caught telling fibs;
A BBC Panorama documentary about global warming made a number of false claims, an internal investigation by the broadcaster has found. The programme Wild Weather, presented by climate editor Justin Rowlatt, said deaths worldwide were rising due to extreme weather caused by climate change – whereas the opposite is true. It also claimed Madagascar was on the verge of the first famine caused by climate change – despite other factors being involved.
Rowlatt's sister is a rapture cultist and has been arrested for her eco warrior activities for extinction rebellion.
What a relief, I will sleep much better now.
What a relief, I will sleep much better now.
There are very few things that give me a restless night, mostly job related stuff. I have never once gone to bed and thought about "climate change". I've maybe gone to bed and thought, "It's going to be nice out tomorrow, I think I'll grill dinner." My swimming pool is warming up nicely, I think I could go swimming this weekend.
The Ministry of Truth (AKA BBC) caught telling fibs;
A BBC Panorama documentary about global warming made a number of false claims, an internal investigation by the broadcaster has found. The programme Wild Weather, presented by climate editor Justin Rowlatt, said deaths worldwide were rising due to extreme weather caused by climate change – whereas the opposite is true. It also claimed Madagascar was on the verge of the first famine caused by climate change – despite other factors being involved.
Rowlatt's sister is a rapture cultist and has been arrested for her eco warrior activities for extinction rebellion.
You do understand that this isn't a tabloid newspaper or right-wing talk show, right?The Ministry of Truth (AKA BBC)
The Ministry of Truth (AKA BBC) caught telling fibs;
A BBC Panorama documentary about global warming made a number of false claims, an internal investigation by the broadcaster has found. The programme Wild Weather, presented by climate editor Justin Rowlatt, said deaths worldwide were rising due to extreme weather caused by climate change – whereas the opposite is true. It also claimed Madagascar was on the verge of the first famine caused by climate change – despite other factors being involved.
Rowlatt's sister is a rapture cultist and has been arrested for her eco warrior activities for extinction rebellion.
Links notably absent.
I'll need a cite for the "much better impression." True, the "Ministry of Truth" dig is just as drivelish as the other quoted "sentences," but at least it's fresh material.I mean, you would have made a much better impression on your audience here without making this stupid and cartoonish dig at the BBC before getting to the point.Let's go Brandon!
The Ministry of Truth (AKA BBC)
Rapture-like cult.
I am sure passengers on the Titanic slept well right up to that big thump they heard.
Pseudo-left-wing nonsense.The “climate crisis/emergency/apocalypse etc” is a luxury gripe for the upper middle classes to virtue signal about as they drive up the street in their Tesla.
Pseudo-left-wing nonsense.
‘This is not an elitist issue’: AOC on Republican inaction on climate change –video - YouTube
I am sure passengers on the Titanic slept well right up to that big thump they heard.
The “climate crisis/emergency/apocalypse etc” is a luxury gripe for the upper middle classes to virtue signal about as they drive up the street in their Tesla. I can’t imagine anyone hunkered down in places like Mariupol thinking that the “big thump” they just heard and felt was a .000001 degree average temperature increase calculated by some end of times cultist.
An end of times, doomsday, rapture like cult.
There must be a web site where less than able critical thinkers go to get sound bites for climate change denials.
A luxury? California is running dry. In the news Ca has been considering desalinization.
Maybe I should be more explicit. The conservative climate deniers are the Titanic, a luxury cruise ship. Trump proclaiming we should use more coal.
Poetic justice would be Trump's Mira Lago getting flooded.
I still find it hard to believe there are actually people who think and talk like Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
A luxury? California is running dry. In the news Ca has been considering desalinization.
These asinine titanic analogies are pathetic. It really does show your religious tendencies. And no one, absolutely no one denies climate. You’re like a screeching baboon flinging shit in your enclosure.Maybe I should be more explicit. The conservative climate deniers are the Titanic, a luxury cruise ship. Trump proclaiming we should use more coal.
Poetic justice would be Trump's Mira Lago getting flooded.
More shit flinging by a primate. Fox News, Hannity, Tucker, Trump, blah fucking blah.I still find it hard to believe there are actually people who think and talk like Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
X demand vs Y supply. Exacerbated by climate change.
A luxury? California is running dry. In the news Ca has been considering desalinization.
FFS, Steve, California is mostly desert and has droughts all through its history. Millions of people live here only because water is sourced artificially via man made lakes. And it’s about time the assholes that run this state addressed our water needs instead of wasting billions on a failed high speed rail project. I heard recently there are plans for a desalination plant in Orange County.
These asinine titanic analogies are pathetic. It really does show your religious tendencies. And no one, absolutely no one denies climate. You’re like a screeching baboon flinging shit in your enclosure.Maybe I should be more explicit. The conservative climate deniers are the Titanic, a luxury cruise ship. Trump proclaiming we should use more coal.
Poetic justice would be Trump's Mira Lago getting flooded.
And Obama’s home will be just fine I suppose.
More shit flinging by a primate. Fox News, Hannity, Tucker, Trump, blah fucking blah.I still find it hard to believe there are actually people who think and talk like Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
An end of times, doomsday, rapture like cult.
Human beings have been incredibly successful at surviving in pretty much every terrestrial environment, because we use tools and technologies to allow us to do so.The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Yes Ca is a lot of dry desert, which is the point. Development and population growth beyond what resources can sustain. A 90s govt paper predicated the La region would begin having drinking water problems in these times without climate change.
Its pretty simple. A person needs a minimum amount of water per day. Industry needs water. Agriculture needs water. It is simple arithmetic.
X demand vs Y supply. Exacerbated by climate change.
Going back to the 19th century water allocation was always an issue in Ca. And politics. Eastern federal politicians determining western water allocation.
There is a reason why California is called LaLa Land.
As opposed to NYC or Chicago? I'd say the drought is extraordinarily relevant!The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Yes Ca is a lot of dry desert, which is the point. Development and population growth beyond what resources can sustain.
And unless the greater LA area is responsible for 100% of Southern California grown almond and walnut consumption, it isn't that simple.A 90s govt paper predicated the La region would begin having drinking water problems in these times without climate change.
Its pretty simple. A person needs a minimum amount of water per day. Industry needs water. Agriculture needs water. It is simple arithmetic.
I don't think so. The future is in training whales to herd icebergs.
LA is a wealthy region with very advanced technology available to it, and sits on the edge of the planet's largest body of open water. Desalination is cheap, well established technology.
LA will be just fine, as long as people there are not mind-bogglingly stupid. So they're probably fucked.
The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Unsustainable? I wouldn't go that far. As I said earlier, the politicians that run the state have thrown money at a failed high speed rail project that we don't need rather than infrastructure we ALL need, i.e. water. And of course we have the environMENTALists blocking everything.
It was rejected om envoronmental grounds, the retyrned salt woud chnage the wter salinity and affect marine lefe..The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Unsustainable? I wouldn't go that far. As I said earlier, the politicians that run the state have thrown money at a failed high speed rail project that we don't need rather than infrastructure we ALL need, i.e. water. And of course we have the environMENTALists blocking everything.
What they're trying to block is unsustainable usage. Everybody's been doing it.
There is only one realistic answer for the long term and that is desalinization. It's expensive, though, and the right would prefer to trash the ecology before resorting to it.
In California I undestand some of holes in ground they hode their heads in are quite comfortable. Air codition,ing and TV.The proposed desalination plant for Orange County, California was unanimously rejected by the environmental board.
Which is why you have to be careful with your discharge water--it needs to be dispersed adequately to avoid such problems. Simply sticking a pipe out into the ocean is going to create an ecological mess.It was rejected om envoronmental grounds, the retyrned salt woud chnage the wter salinity and affect marine lefe..The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Unsustainable? I wouldn't go that far. As I said earlier, the politicians that run the state have thrown money at a failed high speed rail project that we don't need rather than infrastructure we ALL need, i.e. water. And of course we have the environMENTALists blocking everything.
What they're trying to block is unsustainable usage. Everybody's been doing it.
There is only one realistic answer for the long term and that is desalinization. It's expensive, though, and the right would prefer to trash the ecology before resorting to it.
Yes, it needs to be addressed; But it’s not a particularly difficult engineering problem. The waste brine is literally a drop in the ocean, you just need to make it mix in a bit before it reaches any sensitive habitats.Which is why you have to be careful with your discharge water--it needs to be dispersed adequately to avoid such problems. Simply sticking a pipe out into the ocean is going to create an ecological mess.It was rejected om envoronmental grounds, the retyrned salt woud chnage the wter salinity and affect marine lefe..The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Unsustainable? I wouldn't go that far. As I said earlier, the politicians that run the state have thrown money at a failed high speed rail project that we don't need rather than infrastructure we ALL need, i.e. water. And of course we have the environMENTALists blocking everything.
What they're trying to block is unsustainable usage. Everybody's been doing it.
There is only one realistic answer for the long term and that is desalinization. It's expensive, though, and the right would prefer to trash the ecology before resorting to it.
Looking at the numbers, or at least trying to, desalination (of ocean water) seems energy intensive and expensive relative to potable reuse water and at best is a smaller piece to the puzzle.Human beings have been incredibly successful at surviving in pretty much every terrestrial environment, because we use tools and technologies to allow us to do so.The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Yes Ca is a lot of dry desert, which is the point. Development and population growth beyond what resources can sustain. A 90s govt paper predicated the La region would begin having drinking water problems in these times without climate change.
Its pretty simple. A person needs a minimum amount of water per day. Industry needs water. Agriculture needs water. It is simple arithmetic.
X demand vs Y supply. Exacerbated by climate change.
Going back to the 19th century water allocation was always an issue in Ca. And politics. Eastern federal politicians determining western water allocation.
There is a reason why California is called LaLa Land.
Cities are incredibly hostile environments. They produce insufficient food, and typically have inadequate water too.
This isn't an actual problem. Unless we abandon technology, in which case somewhere between seven eighths and nine tenths of humans will die. So let's not do that.
LA is a wealthy region with very advanced technology available to it, and sits on the edge of the planet's largest body of open water. Desalination is cheap, well established technology.
LA will be just fine, as long as people there are not mind-bogglingly stupid. So they're probably fucked.
Sure, there may well be better and cheaper options; But given a choice between desalinated water at even a couple of bucks per m3, and going thirsty, it’s a no-brianer.Looking at the numbers, or at least trying to, desalination (of ocean water) seems energy intensive and expensive relative to potable reuse water and at best is a smaller piece to the puzzle.Human beings have been incredibly successful at surviving in pretty much every terrestrial environment, because we use tools and technologies to allow us to do so.The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Yes Ca is a lot of dry desert, which is the point. Development and population growth beyond what resources can sustain. A 90s govt paper predicated the La region would begin having drinking water problems in these times without climate change.
Its pretty simple. A person needs a minimum amount of water per day. Industry needs water. Agriculture needs water. It is simple arithmetic.
X demand vs Y supply. Exacerbated by climate change.
Going back to the 19th century water allocation was always an issue in Ca. And politics. Eastern federal politicians determining western water allocation.
There is a reason why California is called LaLa Land.
Cities are incredibly hostile environments. They produce insufficient food, and typically have inadequate water too.
This isn't an actual problem. Unless we abandon technology, in which case somewhere between seven eighths and nine tenths of humans will die. So let's not do that.
LA is a wealthy region with very advanced technology available to it, and sits on the edge of the planet's largest body of open water. Desalination is cheap, well established technology.
LA will be just fine, as long as people there are not mind-bogglingly stupid. So they're probably fucked.
There is no silver bullet, so desalination is going to be part of the solution, but I'm not certain just how big. Potable reuse could cover a lot more ground, for a good deal cheaper.Sure, there may well be better and cheaper options; But given a choice between desalinated water at even a couple of bucks per m3, and going thirsty, it’s a no-brianer.Looking at the numbers, or at least trying to, desalination (of ocean water) seems energy intensive and expensive relative to potable reuse water and at best is a smaller piece to the puzzle.Human beings have been incredibly successful at surviving in pretty much every terrestrial environment, because we use tools and technologies to allow us to do so.The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Yes Ca is a lot of dry desert, which is the point. Development and population growth beyond what resources can sustain. A 90s govt paper predicated the La region would begin having drinking water problems in these times without climate change.
Its pretty simple. A person needs a minimum amount of water per day. Industry needs water. Agriculture needs water. It is simple arithmetic.
X demand vs Y supply. Exacerbated by climate change.
Going back to the 19th century water allocation was always an issue in Ca. And politics. Eastern federal politicians determining western water allocation.
There is a reason why California is called LaLa Land.
Cities are incredibly hostile environments. They produce insufficient food, and typically have inadequate water too.
This isn't an actual problem. Unless we abandon technology, in which case somewhere between seven eighths and nine tenths of humans will die. So let's not do that.
LA is a wealthy region with very advanced technology available to it, and sits on the edge of the planet's largest body of open water. Desalination is cheap, well established technology.
LA will be just fine, as long as people there are not mind-bogglingly stupid. So they're probably fucked.
The worst case scenario isn’t that you run out of water; It’s that the price of water rises to maybe $0.002 per litre, delivered to your home in unlimited quantities.
The figure given in your source suggests that it might be as little as $0.00085/l. I don’t think we need to panic.
Great.There is no silver bullet, so desalination is going to be part of the solution, but I'm not certain just how big. Potable reuse could cover a lot more ground, for a good deal cheaper.Sure, there may well be better and cheaper options; But given a choice between desalinated water at even a couple of bucks per m3, and going thirsty, it’s a no-brianer.Looking at the numbers, or at least trying to, desalination (of ocean water) seems energy intensive and expensive relative to potable reuse water and at best is a smaller piece to the puzzle.Human beings have been incredibly successful at surviving in pretty much every terrestrial environment, because we use tools and technologies to allow us to do so.The Ca water shortage is here regardless of drought. La is unsustainable regardless of drought.
Yes Ca is a lot of dry desert, which is the point. Development and population growth beyond what resources can sustain. A 90s govt paper predicated the La region would begin having drinking water problems in these times without climate change.
Its pretty simple. A person needs a minimum amount of water per day. Industry needs water. Agriculture needs water. It is simple arithmetic.
X demand vs Y supply. Exacerbated by climate change.
Going back to the 19th century water allocation was always an issue in Ca. And politics. Eastern federal politicians determining western water allocation.
There is a reason why California is called LaLa Land.
Cities are incredibly hostile environments. They produce insufficient food, and typically have inadequate water too.
This isn't an actual problem. Unless we abandon technology, in which case somewhere between seven eighths and nine tenths of humans will die. So let's not do that.
LA is a wealthy region with very advanced technology available to it, and sits on the edge of the planet's largest body of open water. Desalination is cheap, well established technology.
LA will be just fine, as long as people there are not mind-bogglingly stupid. So they're probably fucked.
The worst case scenario isn’t that you run out of water; It’s that the price of water rises to maybe $0.002 per litre, delivered to your home in unlimited quantities.
The figure given in your source suggests that it might be as little as $0.00085/l. I don’t think we need to panic.
Water supply and sanitation in Saudi Arabia is characterized by challenges and achievements. One of the main challenges is water scarcity. In order to overcome water scarcity, substantial investments have been undertaken in seawater desalination, water distribution, sewerage and wastewater treatment. Today about 50% of drinking water comes from desalination, 40% from the mining of non-renewable groundwater and only 10% from surface water in the mountainous southwest of the country. The capital Riyadh, located in the heart of the country, is supplied with desalinated water pumped from the Persian Gulf over a distance of 467 km. Water is provided almost for free to residential users. Despite improvements, service quality remains poor, for example in terms of continuity of supply. Another challenge is weak institutional capacity and governance, reflecting general characteristics of the public sector in Saudi Arabia. Among the achievements is a significant increase in desalination, and in access to water, the expansion of wastewater treatment, as well as the use of treated effluent for the irrigation of urban green spaces, and for agriculture.
Since 2000, the government has increasingly relied on the private sector to operate water and sanitation infrastructure, beginning with desalination and wastewater treatment plants. Since the creation of the National Water Company (NWC) in 2008, the operation of urban water distribution systems in the four largest cities has gradually been delegated to private companies as well. The apparent paradox of very low water tariffs and water privatization is explained by government subsidies. The government buys desalinated water from private operators at high prices and resells the bulk water for free. Likewise, the government directly pays private operators that run the water distribution and sewer systems of large cities under management contracts. Furthermore, it fully subsidizes investments in water distribution and sewers. Water utilities are expected to recover an increasing share of their costs from the sale of treated effluent to industries. In January 2016 water and sewer tariffs were increased for the first time in more than a decade, which resulted in discontent and in the sacking of the Minister of Water and Energy Abdullah Al-Hussayen in April 2016.[3]
As South Africa faces ever more severe water shortages, some experts are seriously considering a proposal to harvest Antarctic icebergs and haul them to Cape Town. What are the chances it will succeed?
What's the story with Saudi Arabia and icebergs?
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In the 1970s, Saudi Prince Mohamed Al-Faisal wanted to tow an Antarctic iceberg across the equator to Saudi Arabia, and funded two international conferences on the subject. The EU received proposals in the 2010s to tow an iceberg from Newfoundland to the Canary Islands.Sep 18, 2018
And the political lobby of the ag industry in the Valley counties is such that any conversation about calculated river management is political suicide. The farmers would happily see the San Joaquin and Sacramento rivers go completely dry over the summer rather than surrender any of their water rights.As drought lowers the levels of these two important rivers, salt incursion becomes more of a problem.
Water politics goes back to the1 9th century does it not?And the political lobby of the ag industry in the Valley counties is such that any conversation about calculated river management is political suicide. The farmers would happily see the San Joaquin and Sacramento rivers go completely dry over the summer rather than surrender any of their water rights.As drought lowers the levels of these two important rivers, salt incursion becomes more of a problem.
Why not? It's the cost of converting sea water (which is plentiful) into fresh water.Watts per litre may be a valid unit for the energy it takes to compensate for evaporation losses in an open body of water (although arguably that's better expressed in warts per square metre of open surface) it isn't a valid unit for production of fresh water.
Because Watts is not a unit of energy, it's a unit of power.Why not? It's the cost of converting sea water (which is plentiful) into fresh water.Watts per litre may be a valid unit for the energy it takes to compensate for evaporation losses in an open body of water (although arguably that's better expressed in warts per square metre of open surface) it isn't a valid unit for production of fresh water.
And it’s a pretty small cost. About $0.00085/litre.Why not? It's the cost of converting sea water (which is plentiful) into fresh water.Watts per litre may be a valid unit for the energy it takes to compensate for evaporation losses in an open body of water (although arguably that's better expressed in warts per square metre of open surface) it isn't a valid unit for production of fresh water.
Then they should stop closing down perfectly good nuclear power plants, and build a few new ones.Saudi desalinization is probably powered by oil, fossil fuel.
Hpow much more electrical capacity will Ca need for large scale desalination. As with most things, if energy is not feasible then all ohter isuues are moot.