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Conservoauthoritarianism v. Libertarianism

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http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-opposite-of-libertarian-is-authoritarian/

These are high-profile conservatives having opposite reactions to recent controversial events. Napolitano, Amash, and Paul can be fairly categorized as libertarian-leaning men of the right, while Cheney, King, and Huckabee can be fairly categorized as conventionally conservative or Republican. The conservative brands these two sides represent are far more contradictory than they are compatible on some key issues.

The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin agrees. In her column “The libertarian-conservative alliance frays” Rubin insists that despite shared opposition to certain domestic big-government programs, libertarians really don’t belong in the same category—or even party—with conservatives.

On the most obvious surface disagreement between libertarians and many conservatives, foreign policy, Rubin writes, “As foreign policy becomes more critical, the libertarian-conservative alliance is harder to maintain. Whether it is internment of enemy combatants or enhanced interrogation, libertarians line up with liberals—against conservatives.”

Interesting take on the right.
 
Yep, it was interesting. Unfortunately, we now have 2 Authoritarian parties in the US, with minor factions resisting in the wings of both. I forgot about Reagan signing the international treaty on torture...too bad the tea baggers seem to have forgotten; as they seem to worship his 2-D image.
 
Yep, it was interesting. Unfortunately, we now have 2 Authoritarian parties in the US, with minor factions resisting in the wings of both. I forgot about Reagan signing the international treaty on torture...too bad the tea baggers seem to have forgotten; as they seem to worship his 2-D image.
And they already have a memorial planned for D.C. It's called the Reaganon, fashioned after the Parthenon in memorial to the guy who saved us so many times from dem bad guys. Instead of pillars it will have ICBMs.
 
Yep, it was interesting. Unfortunately, we now have 2 Authoritarian parties in the US, with minor factions resisting in the wings of both. I forgot about Reagan signing the international treaty on torture...too bad the tea baggers seem to have forgotten; as they seem to worship his 2-D image.
And they already have a memorial planned for D.C. It's called the Reaganon, fashioned after the Parthenon in memorial to the guy who saved us so many times from dem bad guys. Instead of pillars it will have ICBMs.
Ooh...will it have chimps and gorillas as janitors? :D
 
Yep, it was interesting. Unfortunately, we now have 2 Authoritarian parties in the US, with minor factions resisting in the wings of both.
I disagree. The Democrats are establishment party that support Big Business and Violating the 4th Amendment (until they are caught). The Republicans... wait, what do they stand for again? Repealing Obamacare? Anything past that? Oh, jobs! Republicans are very Pro-Jobs.
 
And the only way to create jobs is through tax breaks for billionaires!
 
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-opposite-of-libertarian-is-authoritarian/

These are high-profile conservatives having opposite reactions to recent controversial events. Napolitano, Amash, and Paul can be fairly categorized as libertarian-leaning men of the right, while Cheney, King, and Huckabee can be fairly categorized as conventionally conservative or Republican. The conservative brands these two sides represent are far more contradictory than they are compatible on some key issues.

The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin agrees. In her column “The libertarian-conservative alliance frays” Rubin insists that despite shared opposition to certain domestic big-government programs, libertarians really don’t belong in the same category—or even party—with conservatives.

On the most obvious surface disagreement between libertarians and many conservatives, foreign policy, Rubin writes, “As foreign policy becomes more critical, the libertarian-conservative alliance is harder to maintain. Whether it is internment of enemy combatants or enhanced interrogation, libertarians line up with liberals—against conservatives.”

Interesting take on the right.

Interesting but incomplete. The politics of the right have many interwoven identities, sometimes shared in the same individual. Paleo conservatives, Neo-Conservatives, Classical Liberals, Libertarians, Supply-Siders Religious Conservatives, Business conservatives, Secular populists etc. It's a bit tricky to 'define' them all, in part because political leanings have as much to do with cultural identity as it does specific policy beliefs. Among the interesting divisions:

Immigration:
Pro- Business, Neo's, Libertarians
Against - Religious, Traditionalists, Paleos

Foreign Interventionism
Pro - Neos, Mainstreamers
Against - Libertarians, Paleos

Sex, drugs, and Rock and Roll -
Pro - Libertarians and Classical Liberals
Against - To varying extents, everybody else on the right

Using myself as one example:

I side with libertarians generally, EXCEPT for their isolationism and immigration, and some Constitutional views.
I side with paleos generally, EXCEPT on their isolationism and sex/drugs regulatory attitudes, as well as their anti-trade populist leanings.
I side with business expect on the issues of immigration and corporate welfare.
I have empathy for religious conservatives but take some exception to gay marriage and abortion.

And yes, I am very skeptical of the justice system for ANY person (not just in regards to the minority grievance axe-grinders).
 
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