Cop kills 6 year old in self defense

[Trausti]

Not true. It isn’t just a race issue, but there is a substantial race issue.

When you consider the fact that black people commit a disproportionate share of crimes, police shootings and the like do not disproportionally affect black people.
This whole nonsense pushed by #BLM is just racist propaganda.

Sane person: "Black people are arrested disproportionately"

Racist: "But they commit more crimes!"

Sane person: "How do you know?"

Racism: "Because they get arrested more than whites do."

Yawn.

Yes, all those Whites and Asians in NYC committing high rates of homicide and the police only arresting Blacks and Hispanics. SMH.

 

[Trausti]

Not true. It isn’t just a race issue, but there is a substantial race issue.

When you consider the fact that black people commit a disproportionate share of crimes, police shootings and the like do not disproportionally affect black people.
This whole nonsense pushed by #BLM is just racist propaganda.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003760024/dashcam-video-of-dylann-roof-arrest.html

Here is a video of police apprehending Dylann Roof. Keep in mind, they know his guilt. An officer has a gun drawn for a few seconds and then it is more like a BBQ.

He didn’t resist. Ditto, Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy.

 

[atrib]

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003760024/dashcam-video-of-dylann-roof-arrest.html

Here is a video of police apprehending Dylann Roof. Keep in mind, they know his guilt. An officer has a gun drawn for a few seconds and then it is more like a BBQ.

He didn’t resist. Ditto, Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy.

Resisting arrest alone cannot be the criteria which triggers the use of lethal force by the police. Lethal force is appropriate only when the suspect poses an immediate and clear threat to the lives of police or other humans present at the scene. Shooting people in the back as they try to flee, just because they had previously resisted arrest, is criminal. That's the point.

 

[Trausti]

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003760024/dashcam-video-of-dylann-roof-arrest.html

Here is a video of police apprehending Dylann Roof. Keep in mind, they know his guilt. An officer has a gun drawn for a few seconds and then it is more like a BBQ.

He didn’t resist. Ditto, Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy.

Resisting arrest alone cannot be the criteria which triggers the use of lethal force by the police. Lethal force is appropriate only when the suspect poses an immediate and clear threat to the lives of police or other humans present at the scene. Shooting people in the back as they try to flee, just because they had previously resisted arrest, is criminal. That's the point.

And my observation is simply that if you don’t resist arrest, only minimal force is used; regardless of what the perp is accused of.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003760024/dashcam-video-of-dylann-roof-arrest.html

Here is a video of police apprehending Dylann Roof. Keep in mind, they know his guilt. An officer has a gun drawn for a few seconds and then it is more like a BBQ.

He didn’t resist. Ditto, Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy.

Was there resisting in the OP situation?

Though I do need to apologize, for the moment I was conflating the case with the 6 year old being killed by an officer with the case of the military person being pulled over in what she wasn't aware was a stolen car, and the officer had his gun out, while taking cover behind his car door while backup arrived.

It is seriously getting to be near impossible to keep all of these cases separated.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Resisting arrest alone cannot be the criteria which triggers the use of lethal force by the police. Lethal force is appropriate only when the suspect poses an immediate and clear threat to the lives of police or other humans present at the scene. Shooting people in the back as they try to flee, just because they had previously resisted arrest, is criminal. That's the point.

And my observation is simply that if you don’t resist arrest, only minimal force is used; regardless of what the perp is accused of.

Except when that's not true.

 

[atrib]

Resisting arrest alone cannot be the criteria which triggers the use of lethal force by the police. Lethal force is appropriate only when the suspect poses an immediate and clear threat to the lives of police or other humans present at the scene. Shooting people in the back as they try to flee, just because they had previously resisted arrest, is criminal. That's the point.

And my observation is simply that if you don’t resist arrest, only minimal force is used; regardless of what the perp is accused of.

Except for cases where this is not true.

 

[ronburgundy]

Agreed.

Honestly, the blame here, Mr. Anarchist, lies in the people that gave this guy a gun

Well, that would be the state.

True, but Jason believes he should have been allowed to walk around town carrying a loaded gun even if he wasn't a cop, and that the state should be prohibited from placing any reasonable restrictions on that.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Louisiana officer accused of murdering 6-year-old in car says he fired in self-defense

>Cops pull dad over.
>Dad puts hands up.
>Kid starts having autistic melt down (probably due to over stimulation from the siren and light and screaming thugs).
>Cops shoot 18 rounds into the car, multiple into kids face.
>Claim self defense

The state has influenced you into believing the police problem is solely a race issue. It is not. It isn't even really a police issue. They are drones that lack critical thinking, and often moral compasses - because the law tells them how to feel and what to do. That doesn't excuse them - but they aren't the originator of the problem. The blame lies with politicians, legislators, and judges like the one involved in this case who issued a media gag order. The blame rests solely on the shoulders of the state.

You're not Faux Noise, don't report like them.

The cops were shooting at the driver who had already rammed the officer's car once, the kid just caught some imperfectly aimed rounds. The kid's meltdown had nothing to do with the shooting, they didn't even know he was there.

 

[Trausti]

Resisting arrest alone cannot be the criteria which triggers the use of lethal force by the police. Lethal force is appropriate only when the suspect poses an immediate and clear threat to the lives of police or other humans present at the scene. Shooting people in the back as they try to flee, just because they had previously resisted arrest, is criminal. That's the point.

And my observation is simply that if you don’t resist arrest, only minimal force is used; regardless of what the perp is accused of.

Except for cases where this is not true.

So the advice you give your children is to always resist the police?

 

[Arctish]

Louisiana officer accused of murdering 6-year-old in car says he fired in self-defense

>Cops pull dad over.
>Dad puts hands up.
>Kid starts having autistic melt down (probably due to over stimulation from the siren and light and screaming thugs).
>Cops shoot 18 rounds into the car, multiple into kids face.
>Claim self defense

The state has influenced you into believing the police problem is solely a race issue. It is not. It isn't even really a police issue. They are drones that lack critical thinking, and often moral compasses - because the law tells them how to feel and what to do. That doesn't excuse them - but they aren't the originator of the problem. The blame lies with politicians, legislators, and judges like the one involved in this case who issued a media gag order. The blame rests solely on the shoulders of the state.

You're not Faux Noise, don't report like them.

The cops were shooting at the driver who had already rammed the officer's car once, the kid just caught some imperfectly aimed rounds. The kid's meltdown had nothing to do with the shooting, they didn't even know he was there.

Allegedly rammed the officer's car.

What is known beyond doubt is that the car was parked and the driver had his hands up and sticking out the window when the police opened fire.

Jeremy Mardis was only 6-years-old when he was gunned down by a pair of rogue cops who were trying to kill his father.

The Louisiana cops who killed him, Norris Greenhouse Jr. and Derrick Stafford, claimed they were trying to serve a warrant on the boy's father when he backed his car towards police making them fear for their lives.

But both turned out to be a lie. There was no warrant and a bodycam video from a third officer shows Few had his arms sticking out the window of the vehicle in an act of surrender when he was executed.

In fact, it remains unclear why the Marksville marshals attempted to pull Few over in the first place on the night of November 3, 2015 but it may have had something to do with Few having told Greenhouse not to contact his girlfriend anymore a month prior to the shooting.

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Don't even try to spin this one. The evidence of police misconduct came from the body cam of another police officer. And there's also this:

Norris Greenhouse Jr., 23, and Derrick Stafford, 32, were officers with the Marksville Police Department. Greenhouse was a reserve officer with Marksville and served as a deputy marshal for the nearby Alexandria City Marshal's Office; he had been on the force for one year.

Stafford was a lieutenant and shift supervisor for the Marksville Police Department, and an eight-year veteran of that Department.[11][3][12] He was "moonlighting" as a deputy marshal at the time of the shooting.[3] That night, Greenhouse and Stafford were working side jobs for the city marshal's office.[7] They were two of several officers hired by the Marksville Marshal's Office about three months prior to the shooting.[2]

At the time of the shooting, Greenhouse, Stafford and Marksville Police Chief Elster Smith, Jr., were the subjects of a federal civil suit for use of force. Stafford was the subject of five civil suits in Avoyelles Parish; Greenhouse was named in one of these.[3] In addition, Stafford had been indicted in 2011 by Rapides Parish on two counts of aggravated rape but the charges were dropped in 2012.

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[atrib]

Except for cases where this is not true.

So the advice you give your children is to always resist the police?

No, I was pointing out that your claim is untrue.

 

[Trausti]

Except for cases where this is not true.

So the advice you give your children is to always resist the police?

No, I was pointing out that your claim is untrue.

But it’s not. Resist arrest and the chance of serious injury goes up. That’s common sense.

 

[laughing dog]

Louisiana officer accused of murdering 6-year-old in car says he fired in self-defense

>Cops pull dad over.
>Dad puts hands up.
>Kid starts having autistic melt down (probably due to over stimulation from the siren and light and screaming thugs).
>Cops shoot 18 rounds into the car, multiple into kids face.
>Claim self defense

The state has influenced you into believing the police problem is solely a race issue. It is not. It isn't even really a police issue. They are drones that lack critical thinking, and often moral compasses - because the law tells them how to feel and what to do. That doesn't excuse them - but they aren't the originator of the problem. The blame lies with politicians, legislators, and judges like the one involved in this case who issued a media gag order. The blame rests solely on the shoulders of the state.

You're not Faux Noise, don't report like them.

The cops were shooting at the driver who had already rammed the officer's car once, the kid just caught some imperfectly aimed rounds. The kid's meltdown had nothing to do with the shooting, they didn't even know he was there.

The officer responsible for the shooting of the child was found guilty and received a sentence of 40 years.

 

[atrib]

No, I was pointing out that your claim is untrue.

But it’s not. Resist arrest and the chance of serious injury goes up. That’s common sense.

This is what you said:

And my observation is simply that if you don’t resist arrest, only minimal force is used; regardless of what the perp is accused of.

I pointed out that this is not true in some cases. Now you have changed your statement to

the chance of serious injury goes up

I agree with what you are saying now, but your previous statement was untrue.

And more critically, the use of lethal force should not be the default position whenever a suspect resists arrest, or fails to cooperate with the police. Police should be trained to resort to lethal force only when faced with an imminent and clear threat to their lives or to the lives of others. Shooting a man in the back as he is trying to run away does not meet that requirement, even if the man is resisting arrest.

 

[Playball40]

No it's not just about race. People with mental health issues are also targets of a stupid, trigger happy police state.

Louisiana officer accused of murdering 6-year-old in car says he fired in self-defense

>Cops pull dad over.
>Dad puts hands up.
>Kid starts having autistic melt down (probably due to over stimulation from the siren and light and screaming thugs).
>Cops shoot 18 rounds into the car, multiple into kids face.
>Claim self defense

The state has influenced you into believing the police problem is solely a race issue. It is not. It isn't even really a police issue. They are drones that lack critical thinking, and often moral compasses - because the law tells them how to feel and what to do. That doesn't excuse them - but they aren't the originator of the problem. The blame lies with politicians, legislators, and judges like the one involved in this case who issued a media gag order. The blame rests solely on the shoulders of the state.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Allegedly rammed the officer's car.

What is known beyond doubt is that the car was parked and the driver had his hands up and sticking out the window when the police opened fire.

Jeremy Mardis was only 6-years-old when he was gunned down by a pair of rogue cops who were trying to kill his father.

Where's this video, though?

 

[laughing dog]

Allegedly rammed the officer's car.

What is known beyond doubt is that the car was parked and the driver had his hands up and sticking out the window when the police opened fire.

Jeremy Mardis was only 6-years-old when he was gunned down by a pair of rogue cops who were trying to kill his father.

Where's this video, though?

Again, the police officer who shot the boy was found guilty of murder and sentenced to 40 years. Do you have any actual evidence that the verdict was wrongful?

 

[Bronzeage]

This was a case of a small town police force which was poorly trained, getting into a situation over their heads. The victim and the officers knew each other, because it was a small town where everyone knows each other. As is typical in these cases, one shot was fired, which prompted another officer to fire his gun and it became a barrage. There was enough video from dash cams to establish the sequence of events.