Cop punches handcuffed 12-year old boy

[RavenSky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6etv8d5h_M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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I am curious how anyone will defend the actions of the cop in the camo jacket in this incident from Monday.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

The kid was clearly reaching for a gun. Kudos to the cop for showing such restraint.

 

[Arctish]

Reuters is reporting the boy who was punched is 16 years old. The cops also arrested a 12 year old and put him in handcuffs, too. Both boys were arrested on suspicion they assaulted someone, which does not excuse the plainclothes cop rushing in to punch one of them.

 

[Jayjay]

Technically going and punching the 16-year old boy was unnecessary misconduct and the cop should face some reprimand for losing his cool. But I'm not going to have sympathy for bunch of assholes who beat someone up with a cane, apparently as part of gang initiation rite.

 

[Arctish]

Technically going and punching the 16-year old boy was unnecessary misconduct and the cop should face some reprimand for losing his cool. But I'm not going to have sympathy for bunch of assholes who beat someone up with a cane, apparently as part of gang initiation rite.

Well, that's up to you, of course. But I hope you are at least prepared to be sympathetic if it turns out the boys are innocent. Because getting arrested, punched by a cop, and assumed to be guilty of being an asshole who beat someone as part of a gang initiation would really suck, especially since it appears the only reason to think this had something to do with a gang is because the boys are black.

ETA: Here's another report:

Actress Sarah Doneghy, who caught the incident on her phone camera, said on YouTube: 'This happened today on my way to the post office.

'The kids were 12. They had supposedly pushed one of their classmates down.

'However when the victim was asked, he said those weren't the guys.'

'They were still taken away,' Doneghy added. '12. Years. Old.'

The NYPD says the suspect is actually 16. Officers say the teen has a history of arrests. He and two others were arrested for assaulting someone who walked with a cane.


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[barbos]

Well, klingons beat each other during initiation ceremony. Beating them for that is a bit ironic.

 

[Derec]

You know what the biggest travesty here? Fucking vertical videos. They are a scourge.
You're not shooting that right, dummy!

 

[Jayjay]

Well, that's up to you, of course. But I hope you are at least prepared to be sympathetic if it turns out the boys are innocent. Because getting arrested, punched by a cop, and assumed to be guilty of being an asshole who beat someone as part of a gang initiation would really suck, especially since it appears the only reason to think this had something to do with a gang is because the boys are black.

I'm always open to being proven wrong. But until we have more information I don't see any reason to doubt the police statement.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

There's a youtube video somewhere of a bunch of security types wrestling a fan to the ground who entered the field of play. The security gang proceeds to rough the guy up after he's on the ground. The fans and players take offense and kick the shit out of the security gang, sending them running. Very sweet. If only americans were as courageous.

 

[ZiprHead]

The NYPD says the suspect is actually 16. Officers say the teen has a history of arrests. He and two others were arrested for assaulting someone who walked with a cane.


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And the deflection begins...

 

[Horatio Parker]

The NYPD says the suspect is actually 16. Officers say the teen has a history of arrests. He and two others were arrested for assaulting someone who walked with a cane.


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And the deflection begins...

Probably that cop who assaulted the kid had just found out how guilty he was, and so attacked for justice.

 

[RavenSky]

The NYPD says the suspect is actually 16. Officers say the teen has a history of arrests. He and two others were arrested for assaulting someone who walked with a cane.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-arrest-onlookers-cry-foul.html#ixzz3MP1XYRhk
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And the deflection begins...

Yep. Witnesses say he was 12. Cops say he was 16. Really doesn't matter because there were 4 uniformed police officers that already had the boy under control. There was absolutely zero reason for the plain-clothes cop to push his way in and start punching the boy in the kidneys/back/side.

As for "a history of arrest" - big fucking hairy deal. Given that the kid has now been arrested yet again for "resisting arrest", a black youth with "a history of arrest" means nothing.

And supposedly the victim/witness even said these were not the boys. If that is true, two more black youths have been battered and arrested for "walking while black" - and that is the typical "history of arrests".

But even if the boy was a terrible horrible criminal who pushed somebody down on the street, there remains the fact that a plain-clothes cop battered him for no reason... on camera. Even the worst criminal in the world has rights in this country, as so many on this board love to remind us when we are discussing white male rapists.

 

[ZiprHead]

And the deflection begins...

Yep. Witnesses say he was 12. Cops say he was 16. Really doesn't matter because there were 4 uniformed police officers that already had the boy under control. There was absolutely zero reason for the plain-clothes cop to push his way in and start punching the boy in the kidneys/back/side.

As for "a history of arrest" - big fucking hairy deal. Given that the kid has now been arrested yet again for "resisting arrest", a black youth with "a history of arrest" means nothing.

And supposedly the victim/witness even said these were not the boys. If that is true, two more black youths have been battered and arrested for "walking while black" - and that is the typical "history of arrests".

But even if the boy was a terrible horrible criminal who pushed somebody down on the street, there remains the fact that a plain-clothes cop battered him for no reason... on camera. Even the worst criminal in the world has rights in this country, as so many on this board love to remind us when we are discussing white male rapists.

Don't see what the cop did that isn't much different than what the kid is being accused of, assaulting a helpless person. Can we now refer to him as a thug?

 

[Nexus]

Don't see what the cop did that isn't much different than what the kid is being accused of, assaulting a helpless person. Can we now refer to him as a thug?

There is a big difference. The cop acted under the authority of the state. And he will be given legal shielding for his criminal actions. They both my be thugs but the cop thug is the greater danger to society.

 

[Jayjay]

Don't see what the cop did that isn't much different than what the kid is being accused of, assaulting a helpless person. Can we now refer to him as a thug?

There is a big difference. The cop acted under the authority of the state. And he will be given legal shielding for his criminal actions. They both my be thugs but the cop thug is the greater danger to society.

What danger? The kid is unharmed as far as I can tell. On the other hand, we can see in the video that the victim is still down on the ground at abut 4 minutes into the video. (ETA: Apparently with a broken jaw.)

 

[laughing dog]

There is a big difference. The cop acted under the authority of the state. And he will be given legal shielding for his criminal actions. They both my be thugs but the cop thug is the greater danger to society.

What danger? The kid is unharmed as far as I can tell. On the other hand, we can see in the video that the victim is still down on the ground at abut 4 minutes into the video. (ETA: Apparently with a broken jaw.)

The danger to society is that cop can go around assaulting more people with impunity.

 

[Nexus]

What danger? The kid is unharmed as far as I can tell.

That's not the definition of danger. Someone that strikes other people is a danger to them. The amount of injury the victim has afterwards is not relevant to whether or not the attacker poses a threat.

 

[Jayjay]

What danger? The kid is unharmed as far as I can tell. On the other hand, we can see in the video that the victim is still down on the ground at abut 4 minutes into the video. (ETA: Apparently with a broken jaw.)

The danger to society is that cop can go around assaulting more people with impunity.

I'd rather take my chances with that cop, than with whoever beat that guy and broke his jaw. Besides, he is not getting away with impunity. He's already suspended during investigation and will likely receive some sort of reprimand or other disciplinary action, which is a perfectly appropriate reaction to what he did. There is no need for a lynch mob, nobody was shot or choked to death here.

Anyway it seems that the charges against the kids were dropped. So either they didn't do it, or the victim didn't want to press charges for whatever reason. I'll be interested to see what happens next.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The danger to society is that cop can go around assaulting more people with impunity.

I'd rather take my chances with that cop, than with whoever beat that guy and broke his jaw. Besides, he is not getting away with impunity. He's already suspended during investigation and will likely received some sort of reprimand or other disciplinary action, which is a perfectly appropriate reaction to what he did. There is no need for a lynch mob, nobody was shot or choked to death here.

Anyway it seems that the charges against the kids were dropped. So it seems they didn't do it, or the victim didn't want to press charges for whatever reason. I'll be interested to see what happens next.

The cop has been suspended or fired. Can't remember exactly.

 

[Terrell]

What danger? The kid is unharmed as far as I can tell.

That's not the definition of danger. Someone that strikes other people is a danger to them. The amount of injury the victim has afterwards is not relevant to whether or not the attacker poses a threat.

Agreed. Even if these boys were guilty (it seems like they aren't) whatever punishment they were to get should be determined by a court of law, not being struck by police. (obviously if they're innocent, or cannot be proven guilty, they shouldn't be punished at all)