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There is so much loss. Very sad. :(
 
I'm hearing now how even young, healthy people are having strokes due to the virus. Reports of doctors seeing the clots develop in real time while patients are in the MRI. Heparin therapy seems to be needed for those hospitalized by the virus.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Looks like on average 14 years of life lost for men, 12 for women.
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This is for these who actually died. Normally you calculate such numbers for these who got infected.
Anyway it's an old news that this virus affects healthy people too.
Still "healthy" is poorly defined.
 
ZiprHead said:
I'm hearing now how even young, healthy people are having strokes due to the virus. Reports of doctors seeing the clots develop in real time while patients are in the MRI. Heparin therapy seems to be needed for those hospitalized by the virus.
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I read about this last week and some doctors are considering that everyone with the virus should be placed on blood thinners, even those who are able to be maintained at home. Perhaps that's a good idea. I haven't read more about it lately because I'm overwhelmed reading all the different issues that seem to be related to this virus.

There are many anticoagulants that can be taken orally by those who only have mild symptoms. I don't know if that would prevent embolisms, but I read that some young people with midl symptoms who are being treated at home, are suddenly dying of strokes, so maybe taking oral anticoagulants needs more consideration. This is such a weird disease and we are still learning so much about it.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1254461123753054209

This has a bunch of graphs of the total deaths for various areas. In many places the death toll has doubled--the bug is killing as many as everything else combined.
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In fact, it's worse that that. The doubling is compared to normal deaths at the same time in prior years. But most other causes of "normal" deaths are down too this year, because of the lockdown. Not only does the lockdown massively reduce accidental deaths, but deaths by normal flu and other contagions, violent crime, and even things like heart attacks since those at high risk have less opportunities to over-exert themselves. Which means that a good % of the so-called "normal" deaths for this year are actually due to COVID.

Also, without the lockdown, not only would those normal deaths be at normal level, but COVID deaths would be 10-20 times higher than now. So, the silver lining is that the lockdown has already saved around 1 million people just in the US, though the reopening is likely to undo much of that good. It's like a big red marker, the color of a MAGA hat, scribbling over the silver lining that 6 weeks of lockdown created.
 
barbos said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Looks like on average 14 years of life lost for men, 12 for women.
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This is for these who actually died. Normally you calculate such numbers for these who got infected.
Anyway it's an old news that this virus affects healthy people too.
Still "healthy" is poorly defined.
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I posted that data because some are claiming it only kills those who about to die anyway.
 
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