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The WSJ piece is complete bullshit and is anti-vax territory, a justification for ending most mandatory vaccinations. Reducing hospitalizations is and has always been critical.
It's that most effective of lies, the partial truth.
The vaccine is not a magic bullet, making the vaccinated invulnerably immune. Our best method of fighting the virus, and all the attendant problems, is herd immunity. That requires a high level of vaccination across the population.

Writing that article, without mentioning that truth, is a lie.
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It was not at all long ago that The Wall Street Journal was generally regarded as a crown jewel of American journalism. Now it seems to be just another part of the Right-Whinge Bullshit Machine. The intellectual dishonesty of the QOP and its allies is disgusting. Several months ago I demonstrated that a piece from AEI — supposedly a top-notch "think" tank — was guilty of the most blatant scientific fraud I've ever seen in any article which represented itself as research.

And do we not hear an Infidel in this very thread adopt the "syllogism":
. . . If ONE person gets Covid-19 after vaccination then that vaccination provides ZERO protection for EVERYBODY.
??!?!?!?!?!?!?

Heaven help America.
 

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There is so much motivated reasoning and selective presentation of data going on, so I will now go against my druthers and present a perspective that shows covid as very serious even though I don't want it to be.




also:
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Also, the heparin brouhaha between Metaphor and Loren is par for the course for being unproductive with good data. We need to move heaven and earth to work on the clotting aspect of covid, especially since omicron even with much less lung issues is still a clotting disaster for the unlucky not few enough.

Clotting, clotting, clotting. Keep repeating it until moves the needle.
 

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Let's review: Students spend about 8 hours in school of which about 30 minutes is eating and drinking. They take off mask when eating lunch and drinking for that time. They mask when getting up to leave room etc etc. Meanwhile, persons in restaurants mask up, then when sitting with the purpose of eating and drinking for about an hour, they remove mask, but if they get up to use a bathroom or whatever, they mask again...like they do in school. Largely consistent policy.

The real problem here is that it seems silly to wear a mask for 10 seconds, then unmask for an hour, then mask up again for 10 seconds, not that school and restaurants are largely inconsistent, because they actually are largely consistent. Further, what people ought to do is minimize going to restaurants but when they do go to restaurants that structurally reduce transmission, such as outdoor seating, spacing out tables and people well, good ventilation, protective barriers, masked and vaxxed employees, etc.

It has been known from the beginning that Covid has little affect on kids. The infection fatality rate for those aged 5 to 9 is less than 0.001 percent. Adults can get vaccinated. There is no benefit to anyone to treat children like lepers; denying them their childhood because some selfish neurotic adults can’t break from their Covid cult. As for your restaurant recommendations: you wear a mask alone in the car, right?

The persons under discussion are taking into account the transmission of infection and other side effects to both children and those they could pass it to, as well as the fatality rates of all involved, adults and children. As for your cult commentary: you wear a mask on your chin because it's a sex toy, right?
 

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Looks like Australia is having rather quick and remarkable turnaround.
I don't think it's natural immunity, so it's possible to slow down omicron through measures without waiting for it to expire on its own.
 

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Looks like Australia is having rather quick and remarkable turnaround.
I don't think it's natural immunity, so it's possible to slow down omicron through measures without waiting for it to expire on its own.
There are fewer people going to work in Brisbane than there were during the last official lockdown. The streets are empty, and I am driving tiny numbers of passengers even on peak hour buses.

I don't know firsthand about the other major cities, but certainly here in Brisvegas, the people have taken matters into their own hands, and are working from home and avoiding pubs, bars, restaurants and theatres.


Economic data suggests that this is a nationwide phenomenon.

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100744990

No state or territory around the country is in lockdown, but the economic data coming through now indicates millions of Australians are behaving as if a nation-wide lockdown is in place.

Masks remain mandatory in many settings, and proof of vaccination is required for many venues and some workplaces.

Covid testing centres are very busy, and people who test positive are required to isolate, so some of this pseudo-lockdown is due to the large number of people contracting the virus and them and their families and close contacts staying home as a consequence.
 

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The streets are empty, and I am driving tiny numbers of passengers even on peak hour buses.
Thought you were driving a "reefer". ???

ETA: I guess that would explain the low number of passengers...
 

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Welp, so it happened. ... -- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Instagram
Welp, so it happened. Got COVID, probably omicron. As of today I am thankfully recovered and wrapping up quarantine, but COVID was no joke. For a while I’ve noted the term “mild” is misleading when the bar is hospitalization and death. Even “mild” cases can result in long COVID, which includes a range of conditions like cognitive impairment, POTS, & chronic fatigue. This isn’t to be a downer or induce fear, just a reminder that we need to be careful (N95s in crowded indoor spaces like stores)

And keep masked around others and avoid maskless crowds.

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Welp, so it happened. ... -- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Instagram
Welp, so it happened. Got COVID, probably omicron. As of today I am thankfully recovered and wrapping up quarantine, but COVID was no joke. For a while I’ve noted the term “mild” is misleading when the bar is hospitalization and death. Even “mild” cases can result in long COVID, which includes a range of conditions like cognitive impairment, POTS, & chronic fatigue. This isn’t to be a downer or induce fear, just a reminder that we need to be careful (N95s in crowded indoor spaces like stores)

And keep masked around others and avoid maskless crowds.

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I'm reminded of a bru-hah-hah over P!nk cancelling a show for illness and then the press snapped a pic of her at the beach. Of course, at the beach she was trying to relax and get better, breath and stuff.

While I do not pray at the Alter of AOC and feel that she likely was gathered around too many unmasked people and was responsible for getting Covid-19, being unmasked, I hate individual pics being used to "prove" something.
 

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AOC gets a lot of cheap shots, but the pic does prove she made a bad choice regarding safe practices here, and it wasn't an accidental mistake, like forgetting a mask for a moment.

As I said before, she wasn't doing something in Florida she couldn't do in NYC, but it was not the safest behavior, also like going out to restaurants where people are guaranteed to be maskless, even if it's allowed.
 

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The streets are empty, and I am driving tiny numbers of passengers even on peak hour buses.
Thought you were driving a "reefer". ???

ETA: I guess that would explain the low number of passengers...
Nah, I quit last year and retrained as a bus driver for Brisbane City Council.
 

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Even when I agree something is a good idea, I don't approve of mandating it. Just as an example, I wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle, yet I oppose helmet laws.

Saying something should be mandated is a whole second step above and beyond saying it is a good idea. Each of those two arguments is a separate argument.
I'm interested in how you decide when to mandate.
understand that. But I don’t understand your argument for NOT mandating COVID vaccines. Can you please share it?
Yes. How does JH come to the conclusion that vaccination for covid is good but vaccination for everybody is bad. Helmet laws are good but mandatory helmet laws are bad.

Vaccinations are good for you and me but bad for everybody. Helmet laws are good for you and me but bad for everybody.

What's the logic I'm missing?
 

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Yeah, posts like this are so unbelievably clueless. The numbers indicated that transmission of Alpha (the dominant variant) was unlikely for those vaccinated. Delta, would become dominant two months after this tweet. Things changed.

It is as if some people are just so hard-on to demonstrate how little they know about the virus and the acts necessary to mitigate against it.
 

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Even when I agree something is a good idea, I don't approve of mandating it. Just as an example, I wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle, yet I oppose helmet laws.

Saying something should be mandated is a whole second step above and beyond saying it is a good idea. Each of those two arguments is a separate argument.
I'm interested in how you decide when to mandate.
understand that. But I don’t understand your argument for NOT mandating COVID vaccines. Can you please share it?
Yes. How does JH come to the conclusion that vaccination for covid is good but vaccination for everybody is bad. Helmet laws are good but mandatory helmet laws are bad.

Vaccinations are good for you and me but bad for everybody. Helmet laws are good for you and me but bad for everybody.

What's the logic I'm missing?
The logic is JH thinks that personal choice is the most important freedom that exists. That it overrides the right of other people to live.
 

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The logic is JH thinks that personal choice is the most important freedom that exists. That it overrides the right of other people to live.
Then he should oppose all laws which limit personal choice, which is pretty much every law we have, including the constitution.
 

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Biden said:
If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask.




Biden said:
Let me repeat. If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask
Let's Go Brandon!!


Could you explain why you think that was a reasonable response.
On the internet?

Because I'm not seeing it.
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Biden said:
If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask.




Biden said:
Let me repeat. If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask
Let's Go Brandon!!


There's no need for you and Trausti to keep proving your obtuseness, we get it already.
 

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NYPD officers were heckled for arresting five organized anti-vax mandate protesters and detaining a nine year-old girl Wednesday after they barged into the Natural History Museum without showing proof of COVID vaccination. The arrests, which come amid soaring crime in the Big Apple, took place on Wednesday. Trouble began when a half-dozen purported members of the New York Freedom Rally - a group that has been staging anti-vax protests throughout the city - attempted to enter the Manhattan museum without showing their vaccine passports in violation of rules. Those require every visitor five years and older to show proof of vaccination. The nine year-old, named Jayla, was filmed sobbing as she was marched down the steps by two cops, with onlookers filmed heckling and abusing the NYPD officers over her apprehension.

Daily Mail

Defund the police !
 

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NYPD officers were heckled for arresting five organized anti-vax mandate protesters and detaining a nine year-old girl Wednesday after they barged into the Natural History Museum without showing proof of COVID vaccination. The arrests, which come amid soaring crime in the Big Apple, took place on Wednesday. Trouble began when a half-dozen purported members of the New York Freedom Rally - a group that has been staging anti-vax protests throughout the city - attempted to enter the Manhattan museum without showing their vaccine passports in violation of rules. Those require every visitor five years and older to show proof of vaccination. The nine year-old, named Jayla, was filmed sobbing as she was marched down the steps by two cops, with onlookers filmed heckling and abusing the NYPD officers over her apprehension.

Daily Mail

Defund the police !

Let's Go Darwin!
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AOC gets a lot of cheap shots, but the pic does prove she made a bad choice regarding safe practices here, and it wasn't an accidental mistake, like forgetting a mask for a moment.

As I said before, she wasn't doing something in Florida she couldn't do in NYC, but it was not the safest behavior, also like going out to restaurants where people are guaranteed to be maskless, even if it's allowed.
Yeah, I think that, like many of us, she over-estimated the protection of her vaccine in the face of emerging variants and, as snarky of me as it is to write this: Florida which is basically a giant Petri dish filled with germs Trumpsters.

I honestly get it. I’m getting some push back from my husband basically because we’ve been vaxxed, boosted, wear masks and have severely limited our contact with other people for two years now and it just feels so unfair. It’s like being back in grade school and continuing to be punished for the bad behavior of a couple of troublemakers who just won’t follow the rules so we all have to miss recess. We both would like to be able to…do a little shopping. In person. Eat out once in a while. I’d love to go to the movies again and I’m really really wishing I could throw a party. Don’t even get me started about wanting to travel.

And we’re lucky. We don’t have children still at home or in school so we aren’t trying to manage careers and home school or risk management for small children or teens who just want to swap spit etc. with other teens. We aren’t worried that our kids are risking their lives by going to college. I mean, sure, I worry plenty that our kids are risking their lives by going to work. My friends are worried about their kids and grandkids’ risks plus their own and trying not to exhaust themselves serving as back up daycare every time the grandkids’ daycare closes down fir two weeks because of an outbreak.

Oh, and chatting with a former coworker about life in the lab was….eye opening. They’ve added 150 people to a lab that previously had employed less than 50 people. Not a typo. For a while, they were being paid double time, not the usual $2/hr shift differential we used to get. And are still putting in overtime hours.

We’re all suffering from pandemic fatigue.
 

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Yes, when AOC does it, "bad choice" or "over estimated the protection vaccine provides".
When the "other" does it, plague rat or participant of a death cult.
 

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Conservatives when they see liberals outside with masks: "Bad liberals!!111"
Conservatives when they see AOC outside without a mask: "Bad AOC!!!11"
 

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Yes, when AOC does it, "bad choice" or "over estimated the protection vaccine provides".
When the "other" does it, plague rat or participant of a death cult.
The difference is that AOC is vaxxed and boosted. The people who refuse to be vaccinated or to mask or to limit their contact with other people—I personally think they are delusional and dangerous to themselves and to other people—at a bare minimum. I don’t write that lightly. Some people I care about are among those who are so deluded.

I really get how much this sucks.
 

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NYPD officers were heckled for arresting five organized anti-vax mandate protesters and detaining a nine year-old girl Wednesday after they barged into the Natural History Museum without showing proof of COVID vaccination. The arrests, which come amid soaring crime in the Big Apple, took place on Wednesday. Trouble began when a half-dozen purported members of the New York Freedom Rally - a group that has been staging anti-vax protests throughout the city - attempted to enter the Manhattan museum without showing their vaccine passports in violation of rules. Those require every visitor five years and older to show proof of vaccination. The nine year-old, named Jayla, was filmed sobbing as she was marched down the steps by two cops, with onlookers filmed heckling and abusing the NYPD officers over her apprehension.

Daily Mail

Defund the police !

About three weeks ago, there was a similar incident at a restaurant. This was my discussion with someone who blamed the police:

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So tell me I am wrong. Tell me I am an idiot. I don't care. You just don't DO that to your child. Ever.

Ruth
 

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Aaron Rodgers blasts Biden;

while Biden was touring a tornado-ravaged part of Kentucky, he whispered to a woman in a Green Bay Packers cap and shirt, "Tell that quarterback he's gotta get the vaccine."
The interaction was captured on camera ... and when Rodgers was finally asked about it as part of a lengthy interview with ESPN this week -- he said he was pissed. Then, he took his own jabs at POTUS.
"When the president of the United States says, 'This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,' it's because him and his constituents, which, I don't know how there are any if you watch any of his attempts at public speaking, but I guess he got 81 million votes," Rodgers said. “But when you say stuff like that, and then you have the CDC, which, how do you even trust them, but then they come out and talk about 75% of the COVID deaths have at least four comorbidities." Rodgers continued, "And you still have this fake White House set saying that this is the pandemic of the unvaccinated, that's not helping the conversation."

TMZ

Ouch.
 

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Aaron Rodgers blasts Biden;

while Biden was touring a tornado-ravaged part of Kentucky, he whispered to a woman in a Green Bay Packers cap and shirt, "Tell that quarterback he's gotta get the vaccine."
The interaction was captured on camera ... and when Rodgers was finally asked about it as part of a lengthy interview with ESPN this week -- he said he was pissed. Then, he took his own jabs at POTUS.
"When the president of the United States says, 'This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,' it's because him and his constituents, which, I don't know how there are any if you watch any of his attempts at public speaking, but I guess he got 81 million votes," Rodgers said. “But when you say stuff like that, and then you have the CDC, which, how do you even trust them, but then they come out and talk about 75% of the COVID deaths have at least four comorbidities." Rodgers continued, "And you still have this fake White House set saying that this is the pandemic of the unvaccinated, that's not helping the conversation."

TMZ

Ouch.
TMZ and a Green Bay Packers quarterback. Oh, the.......slight bit of heat, like the stub of a birthday candle burnt down to a nub and still a little warm?
 

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COVID good news in Australia. Omicron has likely peaked in NSW and Victoria (the two most populous states).

Hospital and ICU demand has been below the most optimistic scenario modelled in early January and is falling
 

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Even when I agree something is a good idea, I don't approve of mandating it. Just as an example, I wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle, yet I oppose helmet laws.

Saying something should be mandated is a whole second step above and beyond saying it is a good idea. Each of those two arguments is a separate argument.
I'm interested in how you decide when to mandate.
understand that. But I don’t understand your argument for NOT mandating COVID vaccines. Can you please share it?
Yes. How does JH come to the conclusion that vaccination for covid is good but vaccination for everybody is bad. Helmet laws are good but mandatory helmet laws are bad.

Vaccinations are good for you and me but bad for everybody. Helmet laws are good for you and me but bad for everybody.

What's the logic I'm missing?

I am not authorized to speak for Jason, but many agree that harming one's-self, albeit stupid, should be legal, while stupidly harming others may be regulated. Drinking bleach hurts only yourself and is a personal choice. Feeding bleach to others is illegal.

Not wearing a helmet should be legal since the only likely victim is one's-self; driving while drunk OTOH could easily lead to the death of another person.

MMR vaccination is mandated for children because it leads to herd immunity, Vaccines for influenza and hepatitis are personal decisions because herd immunity is out-of-reach.

The foregoing is all obvious to anyone whose eyes have ever paused when reading the word 'Epidemiology.' But what about Covid-19? Herd immunity is a goal and, as was emphasized from the very beginning of the pandemic, even if herd immunity is never achieved, slowing the spread of Covid-19 would avoid over-taxing medical resources. In that view, it should be mandatory for an un-quarantined Jason to be vaccinated in order to reduce the chance that OTHERS get the disease and to reduce the risk that Jason uses up an ICU bed or ventilator that SOMEONE ELSE needs.

But the above assessment is just the opinion of Dr. Fauci, who has probably been linked to the Soros-funded jihad and to child sex trafficking. The three top epidemiological authorities in the U.S. are Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump and Alex Jones and, although all three have been vaccinated, two out of 3 do NOT support MANDATORY vaccinations. Many Americans take their cue from beacons of morality like Donald Trump or Alex Jones rather than from an Islamo-Marxist sex trafficker whose "PhD" came from some elite coastal college and who has never even been to Wharton or Mar-A-Lago.

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While I do not pray at the Alter of AOC and feel that she likely was gathered around too many unmasked people and was responsible for getting Covid-19, being unmasked, I hate individual pics being used to "prove" something.

While I agree 100% with Jimmy's summary, it makes no difference what AOC does. The QAnon crowd treats masked people with great contempt, even assaulting them in some cases FOR wearing a mask. ANY photograph of AOC would be fodder for Trumpist whingeing. If she HAD been wearing a mask the imbecile brigade would have had sarcastic things to say about that.
 

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So tell me I am wrong. Tell me I am an idiot. I don't care. You just don't DO that to your child. Ever.

Had the two adults gone alone, they would have just been two random Trumpist sheeple in the crowd.

But by manoeuvering to get their 9-year old frog-marched out by Bidenist police, the family have become martyrs for the Holy Cause of Stupidism. When the girl recovers from her annoyance and is old enough to give solace to 14-year old boys in the front lines of the Whinger's War, she will thank her parents for allowing her to serve from an early age as a propaganda item for Americanism.
 

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The three top epidemiological authorities in the U.S. are Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump and Alex Jones and, although all three have been vaccinated, two out of 3 do NOT support MANDATORY vaccinations.
Mandatory vaccinations are a political decision, not a medical decision.
 

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That's how the virus works in the Republican brain.

What's actually happening with restaurants is that when you're eating you're with your group, when you're walking you have many more encounters with others. It's a half-assed compromise to allow restaurants to be open while reducing the risk of transmission.
So why can't school kids do that?

Because we have so many bad parents. Again and again I see Asian parents with young kids properly wearing their masks. I basically never see a non-Asian kid properly wearing a mask and rarely even wearing one at all.
 

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Why isn't infection treated in a similar manner to vaccination?

Wouldn't infection be similar to having an injected and nasal vaccine at the same time?

Because, no matter how many times the Republicans pretend they're the same they're not. Infection confers good protection against that strain, but provides little protection against variants. That's why we've never had a coronavirus vaccine before--standard techniques produce a vaccine that quickly becomes ineffective. The spike-protein targeted vaccines confer much broader protection--not merely against the strain they are engineered for but against variants also.

Note that while the current vaccine doesn't provide much protection against Omicron infection it still confers well over 90% protection against getting seriously ill.

Note that I am using Eric Motherfucking Topol, the guy who made sure that the vaccine EUA happened after the election. One of the most respected medical guys who is not senile like the HIV discoverer.
They didn't have the data earlier.
 

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It has been known from the beginning that Covid has little affect on kids. The infection fatality rate for those aged 5 to 9 is less than 0.001 percent. Adults can get vaccinated. There is no benefit to anyone to treat children like lepers; denying them their childhood because some selfish neurotic adults can’t break from their Covid cult. As for your restaurant recommendations: you wear a mask alone in the car, right?

It's not about protecting the kids, it's about protecting their families. Until Omicron it did little to most kids--but they brought it home and killed family members.
 

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The three top epidemiological authorities in the U.S. are Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump and Alex Jones and, although all three have been vaccinated, two out of 3 do NOT support MANDATORY vaccinations.
Mandatory vaccinations are a political decision, not a medical decision.
Congratulations on completely missing the point!

Reread my post, this time for comprehension. The POLITICAL decision (you got this much right, Duuh) should be based on the EPIDEMIOLOGICAL science regarding the threat which the unvaccinated pose to OTHERS.
 

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Also, the heparin brouhaha between Metaphor and Loren is par for the course for being unproductive with good data. We need to move heaven and earth to work on the clotting aspect of covid, especially since omicron even with much less lung issues is still a clotting disaster for the unlucky not few enough.

Clotting, clotting, clotting. Keep repeating it until moves the needle.

Clotting is one of the major ways Covid kills and one of the big ways Covid deaths are undercounted. (Clot out not in the hospital, add poor evaluation of the cause of death and it gets reported as heart attack/stroke/pulmonary embolism.)

However, the "with covid" cases they are talking about now is patients where Covid destabilized existing health problems--the straw that broke the camel's back.
 

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TMZ and a Green Bay Packers quarterback. Oh, the.......slight bit of heat, like the stub of a birthday candle burnt down to a nub and still a little warm?

Not TMZ, POTUS.

Anyway, Biden’s comments about Rodgers is very odd and uncalled for.
 

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The three top epidemiological authorities in the U.S. are Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump and Alex Jones and, although all three have been vaccinated, two out of 3 do NOT support MANDATORY vaccinations.
Mandatory vaccinations are a political decision, not a medical decision.
Congratulations on completely missing the point!

Reread my post, this time for comprehension. The POLITICAL decision (you got this much right, Duuh) should be based on the EPIDEMIOLOGICAL science regarding the threat which the unvaccinated pose to OTHERS.
No. You do not get it.

Scientific modelling can and should be used to inform politicians of best and worse case scenarios.

"If we lockdown for two weeks, what effect will that have on slowing infection?"

"If we force vaccination on unconsenting adults, what effect will that have on total death rate"?

Modelling can answer those questions. Modelling cannot answer "Ought we force vaccination on unconsenting adults?" That is a political and philosophical question.
 

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I am not authorized to speak for Jason, but many agree that harming one's-self, albeit stupid, should be legal, while stupidly harming others may be regulated. Drinking bleach hurts only yourself and is a personal choice. Feeding bleach to others is illegal.

Not wearing a helmet should be legal since the only likely victim is one's-self; driving while drunk OTOH could easily lead to the death of another person.
I understand and thank-you for the response. But if you think about that claim it it shortsighted and not true. The fact is that you are costing other people lots of trouble and in many cases endangering their lives. Clearly you are nothing like the sole victim. That's just a selfish, immature, childish fantasy if that's indeed what they believe. Now if these folks all refused medical or emergency care because of their decisions then I could respect their choice. But that's not what they do.
 

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Congratulations on completely missing the point!

Reread my post, this time for comprehension. The POLITICAL decision (you got this much right, Duuh) should be based on the EPIDEMIOLOGICAL science regarding the threat which the unvaccinated pose to OTHERS.
It's called scientific illiteracy.
 

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/terrifying-post-covid-syndrome-makes-042400228.html
Rosie Diven, a mother of three in rural South Carolina, had no idea her 16-year-old son had COVID-19 until a fearsome syndrome nearly killed him.

Branson Diven had been vomiting and suffering a loss of appetite when Rosie brought him to an urgent care center near their home in Hartsville on Dec. 10. He did not have classic COVID symptoms such as a sore throat or a cough, and after testing negative for COVID and positive for flu, he was sent home under the assumption he would soon be better.

Six days later, Branson seemed sicker...
 

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My mechanic had a Christmas party with vaccinated and unvaccinated people. All the unvaccinated people got COVID19. All the vaccinated people did not...The sick had a horrible time, and he took two weeks to go back to work.
The moral of the story is VACCINATE!!!
 
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