# Covid-19 miscellany

#### crazyfingers

##### Supermagnon
Staff member
Known cases in the public school where my kid goes are on track for May to surpass January case numbers. My son reports that maybe 10% of the people in the high school wear masks. I just shot off an email to the superintendent telling him it's time. I don't know if they care. "Kids don't get very sick" Wrong. And it's not just about the kids you moron. They live in a family.

I took the same kid to the doctor yesterday unrelated to this. A knee issue. The Dr Office requires masks but the receptionist had it down below her nose. I told her to put it on correctly.

A few days ago I had to actually go into a bank. I needed small bills that we use to tip the workers who deliver the groceries out to us in the car. Two tellers. One with a mask and one without. I said out loud I was going to the one with the mask and not the one without a mask.

I'm really tired of people who give no consideration for others.

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
I was in a doctor's office yesterday. Masks optional, no employee was wearing one. Yet they ask the Covid questions. Hey, it spreads so well because it spreads before you have symptoms!

#### TSwizzle

##### Let's Go Brandon!
Someone in our office tested positive for covid on Tuesday. They just got their booster on Saturday. They report flu like symptoms so far. They've been told to isolate until Saturday and stay off work until they get a negative test. Two people in the office took covid tests Tuesday and were negative. I'm not going to bother with a test unless I feel I have symptoms. We have about seven people in the office, nobody wears a mask. I haven't worn a mask since December 2021 I reckon.

The EU will no longer require passengers to wear masks at airport or on planes as of May 16th.

#### bilby

##### Fair dinkum thinkum
A few days ago I had to actually go into a bank. I needed small bills that we use to tip the workers who deliver the groceries out to us in the car
That's the most American thing I have read all week.

Literally everything in those two sentences is completely alien to me.

I was last in a bank when we bought this house. And I don't recall the last time I handled cash, or tipped anyone. Certainly not in the last decade.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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A few days ago I had to actually go into a bank. I needed small bills that we use to tip the workers who deliver the groceries out to us in the car.
I've tried to tip them at both Kroger and Meijer. They always say they aren't allowed to accept tips.

#### Ruth Harris

##### Token Christian
A few days ago I had to actually go into a bank. I needed small bills that we use to tip the workers who deliver the groceries out to us in the car.
I've tried to tip them at both Kroger and Meijer. They always say they aren't allowed to accept tips.
Same here at Gerbes (which is owned by the Kroger company) and a local chain. No tipping allowed. It always makes me feel a little uneasy to not be able to tip for service.

Ruth

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
A few days ago I had to actually go into a bank. I needed small bills that we use to tip the workers who deliver the groceries out to us in the car.
I've tried to tip them at both Kroger and Meijer. They always say they aren't allowed to accept tips.
Same here at Gerbes (which is owned by the Kroger company) and a local chain. No tipping allowed. It always makes me feel a little uneasy to not be able to tip for service.

Ruth
I feel the same. Those people work very hard and are probably not paid that well.

#### Metaphor

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I was in a doctor's office yesterday. Masks optional, no employee was wearing one. Yet they ask the Covid questions. Hey, it spreads so well because it spreads before you have symptoms!
Go to a different doctor if it bothers you so much.

#### crazyfingers

##### Supermagnon
Staff member
I feel the same. Those people work very hard and are probably not paid that well.

Yes and a tip demonstrates appreciation.

Early on one of two grocery stores and a Walmart tips were not allowed but we kept trying and whether policy changed or was ignored the individuals are now all taking our tips.

#### bilby

##### Fair dinkum thinkum
Yes and a tip demonstrates appreciation.
Around here, a tip would be a massively condescending statement of your low opinion of the recipient's ability to earn his own money. An insult, and an attempt to rub someone's nose in their low social status.

Although in tourist areas it would be excused with the thought that 'he probably doesn't know any better, being American'.

It's less of a faux pas here than in, say, Japan; But even here, the idea that someone won't do their best work except in anticipation of a tip; Or that they are a charity case who needs handouts to survive, is nevertheless highly insulting.

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#### Metaphor

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Yes and a tip demonstrates appreciation.
Around here, a tip would be a massively condescending statement of your low opinion of the recipient's ability to earn his own money. An insult, and an attempt to rub someone's nose in their low social status.

Although in tourist areas it would be excused with the thought that 'he probably doesn't know any better, being American'.

It's less of a faux pas here than in, say, Japan; But even here, the idea that someone won't do their best work except in anticipation of a tip; Or that they are a charity case who needs handouts to survive, is nevertheless highly insulting.
Australia does not have a tipping culture, but a tip is not a faux pas, or "massively condescending", or an insult, or an attempt to flaunt social status, as bilby falsely suggests, except perhaps in particular situations.

#### crazyfingers

##### Supermagnon
Staff member
Yes and a tip demonstrates appreciation.
Around here, a tip would be a massively condescending statement of your low opinion of the recipient's ability to earn his own money. An insult, and an attempt to rub someone's nose in their low social status.

Although in tourist areas it would be excused with the thought that 'he probably doesn't know any better, being American'.

It's less of a faux pas here than in, say, Japan; But even here, the idea that someone won't do their best work except in anticipation of a tip; Or that they are a charity case who needs handouts to survive, is nevertheless highly insulting.
Yes it sounds like Japan. I've been there like more than 30 times and no tipping. It's considered an insult.

Different cultures. Tipping is a big difference. I recall when I started traveling internationally for work I got a handbook on what major differences to know about.

There are jobs in the US where people make most of their money on the tips like restaurant servers.

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
I was in a doctor's office yesterday. Masks optional, no employee was wearing one. Yet they ask the Covid questions. Hey, it spreads so well because it spreads before you have symptoms!
I've only been to one doctors office or medical location that didn't require a mask, and it was near empty.

#### TSwizzle

##### Let's Go Brandon!
Even Teh Gruaniad has come to terms that lockdowns and mandates don't work;

But what will perhaps be surprising to many is that England has actually had a similar rate of infection and a lower rate of Covid deaths during the Omicron wave – and since 19 July 2021, England’s “freedom day” – than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, despite having far fewer mandatory restrictions, and none after 24 February. This “natural experiment” shows that having more mandates did not lead to better outcomes. There was also no significant difference in overall excess mortality across the home nations to the end of 2021. And England’s is now likely to be lower as – somewhat remarkably, given the Omicron wave – excess mortality is negative in England for 2022 so far, with the lowest age-standardised mortality rates (the best comparator to previous years, as it takes population ageing into account) since the series began in 2001.

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
I'm curious if right-wingers understand what the word "lockdown" means. At no point, was the western Hemisphere "locked down".

What is even funnier is this sense of paranoia exhibited by the right-wing, that the "lockdown" was done to fuck with them, not to save lives. The right-wing has skewed away from reality so gradually, they have no idea how absolutely ridiculous they sound, all the while fervently believing they are right.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
Known cases in the public school where my kid goes are on track for May to surpass January case numbers. My son reports that maybe 10% of the people in the high school wear masks. I just shot off an email to the superintendent telling him it's time. I don't know if they care. "Kids don't get very sick" Wrong. And it's not just about the kids you moron. They live in a family.

I took the same kid to the doctor yesterday unrelated to this. A knee issue. The Dr Office requires masks but the receptionist had it down below her nose. I told her to put it on correctly.

A few days ago I had to actually go into a bank. I needed small bills that we use to tip the workers who deliver the groceries out to us in the car. Two tellers. One with a mask and one without. I said out loud I was going to the one with the mask and not the one without a mask.

I'm really tired of people who give no consideration for others.
Moreover, there's a certain amount of consideration everyone owes everyone else, and while it's OK to recognize there will be a minority of people for whom this is greater than the amount they wish personally to give, it is still their responsibility to give of it!

The names of these responsibilities are "taxes" and "public safety regulations".

I kind of wonder sometimes if it wouldn't be worthwhile to just hire otherwise homeless or professionally repellant people to go around and bother/heckle people who are being socially inconsiderate (coughing a lot without a mask on in a public space, leaving shopping carts outside the cart return, playing loud music in confined spaces at non-voluntary captive audiences, etc.) and send such to places where many folks argue a need for them.

"Don't be an asshole we pay a guy for that, and you aren't that guy."
I'm curious if right-wingers understand what the word "lockdown" means. At no point, was the western Hemisphere "locked down".

What is even funnier is this sense of paranoia exhibited by the right-wing, that the "lockdown" was done to fuck with them, not to save lives. The right-wing has skewed away from reality so gradually, they have no idea how absolutely ridiculous they sound, all the while fervently believing they are right.
I would wager that this describes the whole of the human condition through all of time. We started at "skewed beyond belief" and occasionally take jumps forward. Some people just don't step with the rest of us because they don't know how.

#### TSwizzle

##### Let's Go Brandon!
Hilarious

Jacinda Ardern has tested positive to Covid - days after announcing New Zealand would finally open up to the rest of the world. The NZ Prime Minister announced she'd been struck down with the virus on Saturday, after her fiancé Clarke Gayford and daughter Neve both already tested positive.
'Despite best efforts, unfortunately I've joined the rest of my family and have tested positive for COVID 19.'

Daily Mail

I haven’t laughed this hard since my granny caught her tits in the mangle

Unfortunately the virus won’t cause her much discomfort, this evil authoritarian deserves much worse than a mild cold.

#### Hermit

##### Cantankerous grump
Hilarious

Jacinda Ardern has tested positive to Covid - days after announcing New Zealand would finally open up to the rest of the world. The NZ Prime Minister announced she'd been struck down with the virus on Saturday, after her fiancé Clarke Gayford and daughter Neve both already tested positive.
'Despite best efforts, unfortunately I've joined the rest of my family and have tested positive for COVID 19.'

Daily Mail

I haven’t laughed this hard since my granny caught her tits in the mangle

Unfortunately the virus won’t cause her much discomfort, this evil authoritarian deserves much worse than a mild cold.

                  Cases/1M pop            Deaths/1M pop
Sweden              245,180                  1,846
New Zealand          15,404                    186


##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Hilarious

Jacinda Ardern has tested positive to Covid - days after announcing New Zealand would finally open up to the rest of the world. The NZ Prime Minister announced she'd been struck down with the virus on Saturday, after her fiancé Clarke Gayford and daughter Neve both already tested positive.
'Despite best efforts, unfortunately I've joined the rest of my family and have tested positive for COVID 19.'

Daily Mail

I haven’t laughed this hard since my granny caught her tits in the mangle

Unfortunately the virus won’t cause her much discomfort, this evil authoritarian deserves much worse than a mild cold.
Interesting to see what you find funny.

#### marc

##### Veteran Member
My wife was watching a show "The Indian Doctor", about a doctor from India that moves to a small village in the UK in the 60's. In the second season they have a small pox outbreak. The doctor finally manages to get supplied vaccines, but the village priest is against vaccination, and tells his followers to refuse it. Damn if the show was not timely, considering it was made in 2010.

Also had someone saying since the British are so clean, it must have been brought in by some *ahem* foreign source, insinuating the doctor and his family. The actual source was the priest. A fellow priest he knew died overseas, and his belongings were sent to the village priest. A boy got a chance to play with the funny robes in the shipment and caught it from there.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine Peter Hotez said, "I don’t even call it misinformation or disinformation anymore. I call it anti-science aggression, to convince millions of Americans not to take a Covid vaccine. And at least 200,000 Americans between May 1 and the end of 2021 died needlessly from Covid because of it. And everyone’s afraid to talk about it because it’s very unpleasant to have to point out that these deaths occurred along such a strict partisan divide. Even the White House won’t talk about it in that way."

#### Elixir

                  Cases/1M pop            Deaths/1M pop
Sweden              245,180                  1,846
New Zealand          15,404                    186

What some people find funny is a symptom of a diseased society.
Unfortunate in Swiz's opinion that Ardern didn't get severely sick, so probably also unfortunate that NZ has experienced only a tenth of Sweden's death rate. But if anyone expresses the sentiment that it's "funny" that 200,000 Americans (mostly trumpsuckers) died unnecessarily last year, the RW snowflakes get their panties in a wad, hypocritical dickweeds that most of them are.

#### TSwizzle

##### Let's Go Brandon!
Patti LuPone goes full on Karen and scolds an audience member for not wearing their mask properly, telling them to “get the fuck out!!”

The demented old broad isn’t even wearing a mask! Besides, masks are so last year. (And of course don’t actually work for “stopping the spread”)

#### Elixir

No, they don't "stop the spread", but they slow it dramatically when used even close to properly.
Something that sets masks apart from Trumpspiracy cures like Ivermectin, Clorox, Urine and UV lights up your butt.

The governor of Kansas issued an executive order requiring wearing masks in public spaces, effective July 3, 2020, which was subject to county authority to opt out. After July 3, COVID-19 incidence decreased (avg -6% cases per 100,000) in 24 counties with mask mandates but continued to increase (over 100% in the same period) in 81 counties without mask mandates.

But keep up with that UV light up your butt - just watch where you sit!

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
The demented old broad isn’t even wearing a mask! Besides, masks are so last year. (And of course don’t actually work for “stopping the spread”)
"Stop the spread" is not a binary. Masks don't stop it but they do reduce it. That wouldn't matter if the everybody-will-get-it crowd was right, but as we've seen that's not the case. Plenty of people haven't gotten it and even getting-it isn't a binary--we are seeing that while previous infection provided pretty good protection against variants before Omicron that no longer applies--having gotten one variant doesn't mean you won't get another.

If you decide not to show up at a war it doesn't end the war, it just grants victory to the other side.

#### Patooka

##### Veteran Member
Hilarious

Jacinda Ardern has tested positive to Covid - days after announcing New Zealand would finally open up to the rest of the world. The NZ Prime Minister announced she'd been struck down with the virus on Saturday, after her fiancé Clarke Gayford and daughter Neve both already tested positive.
'Despite best efforts, unfortunately I've joined the rest of my family and have tested positive for COVID 19.'

Daily Mail

I haven’t laughed this hard since my granny caught her tits in the mangle

Unfortunately the virus won’t cause her much discomfort, this evil authoritarian deserves much worse than a mild cold.
Always stay classy.

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard

No, they don't "stop the spread", but they slow it dramatically when used even close to properly.
Something that sets masks apart from Trumpspiracy cures like Ivermectin, Clorox, Urine and UV lights up your butt.

The governor of Kansas issued an executive order requiring wearing masks in public spaces, effective July 3, 2020, which was subject to county authority to opt out. After July 3, COVID-19 incidence decreased (avg -6% cases per 100,000) in 24 counties with mask mandates but continued to increase (over 100% in the same period) in 81 counties without mask mandates.

But keep up with that UV light up your butt - just watch where you sit!
A UV light in a place with no melatonin...

Is it just me or does this sound like a recipe for anal cancer?

#### Elixir

Is it just me or does this sound like a recipe for anal cancer?

Or colon cancer. Small price to pay for not having to drink Clorox and piss.

#### marc

##### Veteran Member
well Tucker's fans are already considering testicle tanning, so why not anal UV? I actually endorse these therapies

#### Jarhyn

##### Wizard
well Tucker's fans are already considering testicle tanning, so why not anal UV? I actually endorse these therapies

I wonder if that's not somehow the point? Like, I can see trolls preferring to target the idiotic with idiocy that will get them a Darwin Award, but it's still not ethical because idiots don't deserve to be filled with idiocy and die, and we don't deserve the consequences of that idiocy with the collateral costs.

Yes, it is easy to trick someone into doing something dumb, and sometimes it's really funny when they do the dumb thing. There are limits to the acceptability of this behavior, however, particularly when someone could get hurt.

Shaudenfreude is a boon of accidental nature, a happy, if also sad, accident... It is not something that we ought initiate, no matter how funny it will be. I would as soon have the messaging there to teach them to get vaccines and support the public welfare as have messaging to convince them to sterilize themselves.

#### crazyfingers

##### Supermagnon
Staff member
My boy's high school is 73% of the way to meeting/passing the January Covid cases and it's only halfway though May. At this rate they will exceed May. Despite this peak being lower than January so far in general, I'm convinced that because masks are not required and my son reports only about 10% of students and staff wearking masks, this is why the cases are so high.

The entire district is even higher when compared to January. It's almost 80% of January so far.

Of course a maskless Junior Prom didn't help.

#### repoman

##### Contributor
Here is another one. Why are any of these drugs for covid or the effects of it being held in such a particular bureaucratic stranglehold?

Why are we allowing the FDA/NIH and similar agencies to limit or set an intimidating tone (enforced by hospital and insurance administrators) against sensible off label usage?

THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT IVERMECTIN YOU DUMBASSES!

#### zorq

##### Veteran Member
These assholes at the FDA
I looked into the studies done on fluvoxamine with respect to covid and they didn't look very impressive. Then I looked into why the FDA didn't approve it and to my surprise, (because I'm not a medical expert) the reasons the FDA gave agreed with my interpretation of the fluvoxamine Covid studies. Fluvoxamine may be a mild anti-inflammatory but it doesn't seem to be affecting people suffering from Covid in a significant way, and it has plenty of side effects and potential adverse reactions.

By comparison, Paxlovid, a Pfizer antiviral, has been approved by the FDA, and reduces hospitalization and death among the High risk demographic by 89%. But people taking fluvoxamine were just as likely as people taking placebo to end up in the hospital. Branded Paxlovid is more expensive, but the generic, fluvoxamine, just hasn't been shown to work.

IMO, this isn't a bureaucratic conspiracy.

#### Swammerdami

Staff member
What is even funnier is this sense of paranoia exhibited by the right-wing, that the "lockdown" was done to fuck with them, not to save lives. The right-wing has skewed away from reality so gradually, they have no idea how absolutely ridiculous they sound, all the while fervently believing they are right.
I would wager that this describes the whole of the human condition through all of time. We started at "skewed beyond belief" and occasionally take jumps forward. Some people just don't step with the rest of us because they don't know how.
I don't think so. Sure, there were superstitions and probably speculations that attributed natural inconveniences to elite's greed. But the sort of insane partisan paranoia we see in U.S. today is mainly a 21st-century phenomenon.

Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine Peter Hotez said, "I don’t even call it misinformation or disinformation anymore. I call it anti-science aggression, to convince millions of Americans not to take a Covid vaccine. And at least 200,000 Americans between May 1 and the end of 2021 died needlessly from Covid because of it. And everyone’s afraid to talk about it because it’s very unpleasant to have to point out that these deaths occurred along such a strict partisan divide. Even the White House won’t talk about it in that way."
Mind-boggling that ignorance has become the major "value" of a major party.

The demented old broad isn’t even wearing a mask! Besides, masks are so last year. (And of course don’t actually work for “stopping the spread”)
"Stop the spread" is not a binary.
We'll need a cite for the implication that Trumpsuckers are capable of non-binary thinking.

By comparison, Paxlovid, a Pfizer antiviral, has been approved by the FDA, and reduces hospitalization and death among the High risk demographic by 89%. But people taking fluvoxamine were just as likely as people taking placebo to end up in the hospital. Branded Paxlovid is more expensive, but the generic, fluvoxamine, just hasn't been shown to work.

IMO, this isn't a bureaucratic conspiracy.

Please address my curiosity: The Trumpsucker conspiracy theorists think that the libtards and main-stream media are pushing wrong medicines with what purpose? Swizzle? - Can you explain it? Are Pelosi and the other libtards trading in Pfizer derivatives? Are they pushing for vaccinations as a means to inject the sheeple with Bill Gates' nanobots? Are Biden's Islamo-fasicst stormtroopers organizing forced marches to the death camps with the masks a "passover" signal?

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IIRC some U.S. restaurants have experimented with a no-tip policy (and higher wages for servers obviously) and found that service and satisfactions did not suffer.

Tipping is almost unheard of in Thailand, unless you're in the sort of place where an attractive girl refills your whiskey glass whenever it drops to half-full! But tips are accepted cheerfully ... except for the time I thought the assistant manager who carried my bags was a bellboy. :-(

And masks are worn almost universally here without complaint, despite that explicit enforcement is lax. Most motorcycle riders even have masks on. Masks are removed to eat or drink, or at home. But even at home, someone exposed (but still testing negative) is likely to wear a mask hoping to protect family members.

If you think Thais are "sheeple," then you are unfamiliar with Thai culture! The real sheeple are the Trumpsuckers Jordan Klepper interviews: "We don't wear masks like you sheeple do." Are masks bad for you? "I don't know. But 'we' don't wear them." What would change your mind? "When 'we' start wearing masks, I'll wear one." So you're an independent thinker, unlike the liberal sheeple? "That's right!"

#### Elixir

Why are we allowing the FDA/NIH and similar agencies to limit or set an intimidating tone (enforced by hospital and insurance administrators) against sensible off label usage?
WHY??
Probably because we have charismatic ignorant assholes recommending drinking Clorox and shoving UV lights up your butt.
Under those conditions “better safe than sorry” applies not only to the public they are charged to protect, but their own jobs as well.

#### Elixir

Mind-boggling that ignorance has become the major "value" of a major party.
Au contraire.
Invincible ignorance is a key feature of evangelical religiosity and anti-science stupidity. It is famously effective, so it is no wonder that the Trump Death Cult would adopt and cultivate it to keep their sheep in line.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Just heard anti-vaxer, covid denier, 77 yo Eric Clapton is very sick with covid.

#### TSwizzle

##### Let's Go Brandon!
Plague rat Jimmy Kimmel tested positive for covid again!!

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
Plague rat Jimmy Kimmel tested positive for covid again!!
Did you want everything open or not?

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Here is another one. Why are any of these drugs for covid or the effects of it being held in such a particular bureaucratic stranglehold?

Why are we allowing the FDA/NIH and similar agencies to limit or set an intimidating tone (enforced by hospital and insurance administrators) against sensible off label usage?

THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT IVERMECTIN YOU DUMBASSES!

What are you complaining about here?

You realize blood thinners come with substantial risks?

#### repoman

##### Contributor
Melatonin is partially regulated from signal from the melanopsin receptors in the periphery of the retina that are impacted from blue and green light only - UV won't get in - too busy making cataracts...

The melanopsin receptors send signals to the circadian rhythm center, etc...

#### TSwizzle

##### Let's Go Brandon!
Darn it, a coworker has tested positive for covid again.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
Darn it, a coworker has tested positive for covid again.
Darn it.
When this all first started our POTUS was more concerned about his image going into the election than the health and economy of the American people.

Oh well, que sera, sera.
Tom

#### steve_bank

##### Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
On a social science thread on media Walter Winchell came to mind. I knew who he was growing up.

From the link it turns out he may have been the first TV-radio anti-vaccer. A fore runner of what we see in media today.

He told his audience polio vaccines would kill their kids. He also challenged claims of a cancer-tobacco link.

There is nothing in poltics and mews media that has not been seen in one form or another before. The difference is with real time globl communications claims are openly challenged and refuted.

In his radio and television broadcasts on April 4, 1954, Winchell helped to stoke public fear of the polio vaccine. Winchell said, "Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. America ... and all the ships at sea. Attention everyone. In a few moments I will report on a new polio vaccine claimed to be a polio cure. It may be a killer." Winchell claimed that the U.S. Public Health Services found live polio viruses in seven of ten vaccine batches it tested, reporting, "It killed several monkeys ... the United States Public Health Service will confirm this in about 10 days." Dr. Jonas Salk, developer of the polio vaccine, immediately responded that the vaccine, which had been recently tested on 7,500 school children at the University of Pittsburgh, had been triple tested for the absence of live virus by its manufacturers, the National Institutes of Health, and in his own research lab, and that similar testing would continue to screen out future batches containing live virus.[27]

#### Jimmy Higgins

##### Contributor
On a social science thread on media Walter Winchell came to mind. I knew who he was growing up.

From the link it turns out he may have been the first TV-radio anti-vaccer. A fore runner of what we see in media today.

He told his audience polio vaccines would kill their kids. He also challenged claims of a cancer-tobacco link.

There is nothing in poltics and mews media that has not been seen in one form or another before. The difference is with real time globl communications claims are openly challenged and refuted.

In his radio and television broadcasts on April 4, 1954, Winchell helped to stoke public fear of the polio vaccine. Winchell said, "Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. America ... and all the ships at sea. Attention everyone. In a few moments I will report on a new polio vaccine claimed to be a polio cure. It may be a killer." Winchell claimed that the U.S. Public Health Services found live polio viruses in seven of ten vaccine batches it tested, reporting, "It killed several monkeys ... the United States Public Health Service will confirm this in about 10 days." Dr. Jonas Salk, developer of the polio vaccine, immediately responded that the vaccine, which had been recently tested on 7,500 school children at the University of Pittsburgh, had been triple tested for the absence of live virus by its manufacturers, the National Institutes of Health, and in his own research lab, and that similar testing would continue to screen out future batches containing live virus.[27]
Odd, I thought he looked like Stanley Tucci.

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Melatonin is partially regulated from signal from the melanopsin receptors in the periphery of the retina that are impacted from blue and green light only - UV won't get in - too busy making cataracts...

The melanopsin receptors send signals to the circadian rhythm center, etc...
I think his point was the term should have been melanin. UV without melanin leads to sunburn.

#### blastula

##### Contributor
Patti LuPone goes full on Karen and scolds an audience member for not wearing their mask properly, telling them to “get the fuck out!!”

The demented old broad isn’t even wearing a mask! Besides, masks are so last year. (And of course don’t actually work for “stopping the spread”)

Love it, even bought a commemorative t-shirt.