- Mar 29, 2010
- Androgyne; they/them
- Basic Beliefs
- Natural Philosophy, Game Theoretic Ethicist
My point is that traditional notions of culpability are not entirely accurate in compatibilism.Not sure what you mean here.I would say morally significant influences are ones which we take into account when determining additional responsible parties.No they wouldn't. I explained this to you in post #876:The compatibilist might say because those are influences that are “outside” of the person,
The AntiChris said:A compatibilist would not say "because those are influences that are 'outside' of the person". A compatibilist would point out that certain influences are morally significant and some aren't. Morally significant influences are ones that we take into account, for instance, when determining the degree to which an agent may be held responsible (morally or legally) for an action (or inaction).
But of course you ignored it.
The agent is ALWAYS responsible for doing the things they did and receiving any additional education that is recommended by that exact fuckup (which may not be very much depending on what, exactly they did).
The question is where the buck stops. They might not be the only one who fucked up -- someone may have behaved in a far worse way, in fact.
All I'm saying is that coercion, for instance, is nearly always deemed to be a morally significant influence in that that it mitigates culpability whereas ambient temperature, for instance, is rarely an influence that factors into our deliberations over culpability.
DBT argues in some respects that "because the child did not choose to be abused, they did not choose to become a child abuser therefore they do not deserve whatever it is we do to child abusers."
I argue that it does not matter why he is a child abuser. All that matters is that in this moment now, they are a child abuser. It does not in one iota change the fact that they must be made to no longer be a child abuser or not have access to abuse children.
The only thing that knowledge of why the abuser abused children does is informs how to remedy the situation of future abuse. It does not impact that the situation needs remedy.