Derec's Palestinian derail

[untermensche]

Faith. Those opposed to America can do no wrong.

Those that think "America" is something one should love is a dangerous idiot.

But this has nothing to do with the total abstraction called "America".

It is about rational thought.

An empty threat has no potential victim.

A real threat has a potential or real victim.

A negative cannot be proven.

All that could be proven is there was a potential victim or actual victim.

To ask somebody to prove a negative is just stupidity.

So Jews aren't real people so they can't be victims?

There were no real victims.

Do you know what the word "victim" means?

It means something actually has to happen to you.

 

[untermensche]

But a resident is watched. Every decision is questioned by a supervising physician. Doctors are trained by other more experienced doctors. They do not just learn on the job.

You cannot prescribe the wrong medication on a residency.

They aren't watched 100.00% of the time. If nothing else, things happen. A patient codes when she's in the room, her decisions are not going to have time to be double-checked.

Her anger and hatred were natural and there is nothing wrong with them.

So you wouldn't mind if a Jewish doctor gave you the wrong medicine? Or even the right medicine the wrong form? (Potassium chloride into your IV bag can be the right medicine. The same dose injected into the port that delivers it directly to the patient instead of the bag can be lethal. Patients have died from this mistake.)

They are overseen 100% of the time. Every decision they make is looked at.

And every prescription written is checked by a pharmacist.

It is not even possible to do what this girl threatened.

There is no evidence that this woman every gave anybody the wrong medication.

And no real reason to think she would.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

They aren't watched 100.00% of the time. If nothing else, things happen. A patient codes when she's in the room, her decisions are not going to have time to be double-checked.



So you wouldn't mind if a Jewish doctor gave you the wrong medicine? Or even the right medicine the wrong form? (Potassium chloride into your IV bag can be the right medicine. The same dose injected into the port that delivers it directly to the patient instead of the bag can be lethal. Patients have died from this mistake.)

They are overseen 100% of the time. Every decision they make is looked at.

And every prescription written is checked by a pharmacist.

It is not even possible to do what this girl threatened.

There is no evidence that this woman every gave anybody the wrong medication.

And no real reason to think she would.

Reread what I said about a patient coding. You have an unrealistic notion of how much checking is possible.

 

[skepticalbip]

Being anti-Israel shows you have compassion.

It does not show you are dangerous.

You are placing your own prejudices squarely into the middle of this.

There is no reason to think this woman was making real threats.

It doesn't matter what you think of her position.

The fact of the matter is that if she ever made a medication mistake with a Jew this would be Exhibit A--and she would be crucified by the jury. No employer would take that risk. She's never going to be a doctor except in places that don't care about doctor competence or don't care about Jews.

She could likely have a successful career as a medical assistant in Gaza working with Hamas.

 

[untermensche]

They aren't watched 100.00% of the time. If nothing else, things happen. A patient codes when she's in the room, her decisions are not going to have time to be double-checked.



So you wouldn't mind if a Jewish doctor gave you the wrong medicine? Or even the right medicine the wrong form? (Potassium chloride into your IV bag can be the right medicine. The same dose injected into the port that delivers it directly to the patient instead of the bag can be lethal. Patients have died from this mistake.)

They are overseen 100% of the time. Every decision they make is looked at.

And every prescription written is checked by a pharmacist.

It is not even possible to do what this girl threatened.

There is no evidence that this woman every gave anybody the wrong medication.

And no real reason to think she would.

Reread what I said about a patient coding. You have an unrealistic notion of how much checking is possible.

You are totally ignorant of the supervision residents work under.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Reread what I said about a patient coding. You have an unrealistic notion of how much checking is possible.

You are totally ignorant of the supervision residents work under.

You have an unrealistic notion of how much supervision is possible.

 

[untermensche]

Reread what I said about a patient coding. You have an unrealistic notion of how much checking is possible.

You are totally ignorant of the supervision residents work under.

You have an unrealistic notion of how much supervision is possible.

The final decisions about diagnosis and treatment are always discussed.

That is the only way to provide oversight and the only way to learn.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You have an unrealistic notion of how much supervision is possible.

The final decisions about diagnosis and treatment are always discussed.

That is the only way to provide oversight and the only way to learn.

You're assuming it's every case.

Anyway, a simple example to show that the pharmacist doesn't catch everything wrong:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ctile-dysfunction-cream-dry-eye-prescription/

This was just a case of bad handwriting but it's clearly wrong--why would a woman be prescribed an erection creme? (There are rare cases where erection tablets are useful for other purposes, but erection cremes are topical.)

 

[untermensche]

You have an unrealistic notion of how much supervision is possible.

The final decisions about diagnosis and treatment are always discussed.

That is the only way to provide oversight and the only way to learn.

You're assuming it's every case.

Anyway, a simple example to show that the pharmacist doesn't catch everything wrong:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ctile-dysfunction-cream-dry-eye-prescription/

This was just a case of bad handwriting but it's clearly wrong--why would a woman be prescribed an erection creme? (There are rare cases where erection tablets are useful for other purposes, but erection cremes are topical.)

That is a complete change of subject.

Dispensing errors that cause harm unfortunately happen.

And the pharmacist that does it can lose their license.

Working as a pharmacist takes total concentration. You cannot make errors.

It is probably easy to get a bad prescription past a community pharmacist. In the hospital it is much harder.

In a CVS for example there are so many prescriptions to fill you only have a few seconds to think about a drug. If you have a script in front of you where the dosage is within normal ranges you probably will not question it.

But if that drug causes harm another physician can easily come in and find out what the patient went to see the doctor about and what was prescribed.

This is not an easy crime to get away with.

And for what gain?

What does this woman get out of it?

It is easy to make threats, but when it comes time to carry it out the person can clearly see the benefit from the potential harm.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You're assuming it's every case.

Anyway, a simple example to show that the pharmacist doesn't catch everything wrong:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ctile-dysfunction-cream-dry-eye-prescription/

This was just a case of bad handwriting but it's clearly wrong--why would a woman be prescribed an erection creme? (There are rare cases where erection tablets are useful for other purposes, but erection cremes are topical.)

That is a complete change of subject.

Dispensing errors that cause harm unfortunately happen.

And the pharmacist that does it can lose their license.

Working as a pharmacist takes total concentration. You cannot make errors.

It is probably easy to get a bad prescription past a community pharmacist. In the hospital it is much harder.

In a CVS for example there are so many prescriptions to fill you only have a few seconds to think about a drug. If you have a script in front of you where the dosage is within normal ranges you probably will not question it.

But if that drug causes harm another physician can easily come in and find out what the patient went to see the doctor about and what was prescribed.

This is not an easy crime to get away with.

And for what gain?

What does this woman get out of it?

It is easy to make threats, but when it comes time to carry it out the person can clearly see the benefit from the potential harm.

The problem was in reading the script, not in grabbing the wrong medicine. If the checks were as careful as you say this would have been caught.

I also note you never answered my query regarding a quinine prescription. I gave you basically everything the pharmacist knew, you say the pharmacist should be able to tell if the script is right or not.