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Do white lives matter?

The article did give the reason "“Walking with a purpose”. And the victim was unarmed, so there is no way he could have shot at anyone. So, either come up with a link with information that confirms your "thoughts", or stop confusing your conjectures with reality.

I think you're confusing the situation. The article says he was running away.
From the linked article in the OP
He was stopped on Merle Hay Road. Officers say Bolinger then got out of his car and approached Miller’s patrol car “Walking with a purpose”, so she opened fire through the window of her closed car door, striking Bolinger in the torso.
Bollinger was not running away when he was killed. Bollinger was not armed when he was killed. No one reported Bollinger shooting at anyone.

Please try to acquaint yourself with the contents of OP articles.
 
A female cop shot and killed and unarmed white man and is not getting indicted. But there are no riots, no wall to wall coverage on cable news stations, no angry threads posted by the likes of Athena.
This is not a rhetorical question: Why not?

There are ALOT more white people in this country than there are black people. Innocent white people are shot and killed by jittery, incompetent, chicken-shit police officers on a fairly regular basis. Statistically speaking I would expect (but would be mildly surprised to see) at a higher rate than black people.

So why aren't WHITE people rioting in protest of police brutality? Why aren't white people demanding an end to the militarization of the police, an end to "shoot first and cover your ass later" department policies, an end to police training that emphasizes gunfighting and close combat and glosses over communication and conflict resolution?

Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
Sure it matters. Just, evidently, not to white people.

Do you really expect black people to care about white people getting murdered by the police more than other white people do?

Of course, you can't defend the cop this time, can you. She's a woman and the dead man is white.

Scanning this thread, I cannot seem to find the "relevant information for the sake of accuracy" posted by Derec about the guy's love life, past criminal history or number of children.

Maybe he just forgot?
 
This is not a rhetorical question: Why not?

There are ALOT more white people in this country than there are black people. Innocent white people are shot and killed by jittery, incompetent, chicken-shit police officers on a fairly regular basis. Statistically speaking I would expect (but would be mildly surprised to see) at a higher rate than black people.

So why aren't WHITE people rioting in protest of police brutality? Why aren't white people demanding an end to the militarization of the police, an end to "shoot first and cover your ass later" department policies, an end to police training that emphasizes gunfighting and close combat and glosses over communication and conflict resolution?

Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
Sure it matters. Just, evidently, not to white people.

Do you really expect black people to care about white people getting murdered by the police more than other white people do?

Isn't this really just a matter of a police force that is out of control that kills too many unarmed people/ It comes into focus more sharply when it is the action of a racist cop shooting a person of color. For those who accept what the cops are doing these days (excessive killing, false arrest, beat downs, and murders of in custody persons) they believe such things are just "normal police work." The number of murders of black people is over the top and indicates that racism is at work in the policy of police on the beat. That is why this case is a little different. But yes, if the guy was innocent, shooting him down is as wrong as shooting down a black person. This should not be a matter of bean counting and keeping score...cop violence and mistreatment of citizens should always be rigorously opposed. It is the same thing in the end, if the guy is white.:thinking:
 
A female cop shot and killed and unarmed white man and is not getting indicted. But there are no riots, no wall to wall coverage on cable news stations, no angry threads posted by the likes of Athena.
Des Moines Officer Won’t Be Charged After Gunning Down Unarmed Man From Her Car
The justification for the shooting (erratic walking) appears to be much less than for Jonathan Ferrell or Michael Brown, but again, Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
In addition photos of cops who shot black suspects are shown everywhere be it Kerrick or Wilson etc. But there is no photo of Venessa Miller I could find anywhere. Female privilege?

My name gets called out so much, and by the same little group, that all I can say is

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This is a good example of why cops need to be strong and vital and not small, weak or too old. Again this is not a job for hitting quotas or political correctness. Also, if this woman attacking the cop was killed there is not a grand jury that would indict. An imposing cop would have easily handled this woman -- and would deserve to be paid a lot more.

She did her job after two male shlubs came to her aid.



It is like the short story "Harrison Bergeron" was a prophecy when I see that person was allowed to be a police officer.

So, if I am wrong, imagine this cop getting hired as a security guard for some random celebrity. It is ludicrous. But celebrities don't have to deal with quotas like the government does.
 
A female cop shot and killed and unarmed white man and is not getting indicted. But there are no riots, no wall to wall coverage on cable news stations, no angry threads posted by the likes of Athena.
Des Moines Officer Won’t Be Charged After Gunning Down Unarmed Man From Her Car
The justification for the shooting (erratic walking) appears to be much less than for Jonathan Ferrell or Michael Brown, but again, Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
In addition photos of cops who shot black suspects are shown everywhere be it Kerrick or Wilson etc. But there is no photo of Venessa Miller I could find anywhere. Female privilege?

Derec,

Why aren't you marching for the lives of white men?

Why aren't you organizing?

Get together with others of like mind, organize, plan and execute direct action, issue press releases and give interviews. Make your cause known.

When something really bothers me, I complain about it, but I also do something about it.

Does this really bother you?

Why can't we just be an observer of the strikingly different societal and media reaction to an unarmed black person vs. white person getting gunned down by police, and then comment on that strikingly different reaction? Why do we have to personally be involved in creating a media storm or a protest?

The fact that the BLM crowd didn't create a media storm and protest with the event described by the OP does the BLM crowd no favors: it makes everyone else think this crowd isn't based on a concern for humanity in general but rather a very narrow and biased concern for their own particular tribe. It can therefore more readily dismissed as an aspect of tribalism and the underlying issues more easily ignored by members of different tribes. Not a good thing if your goal is to get members of other tribes to support your cause, being as very little concern is being shown for members of those other tribes and excessive concern being shown for members of your own particular tribe.
 
A female cop shot and killed and unarmed white man and is not getting indicted. But there are no riots, no wall to wall coverage on cable news stations, no angry threads posted by the likes of Athena.
Des Moines Officer Won’t Be Charged After Gunning Down Unarmed Man From Her Car
The justification for the shooting (erratic walking) appears to be much less than for Jonathan Ferrell or Michael Brown, but again, Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
In addition photos of cops who shot black suspects are shown everywhere be it Kerrick or Wilson etc. But there is no photo of Venessa Miller I could find anywhere. Female privilege?

My name gets called out so much, and by the same little group, that all I can say is

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Athena, you are actually not nearly as bad as you were a year ago. You just stick out as an example based on your past. I suspect the same would happen to Loren and Derec if they ever toned down pushing their hobby horses.
 
Derec,

Why aren't you marching for the lives of white men?

Why aren't you organizing?

Get together with others of like mind, organize, plan and execute direct action, issue press releases and give interviews. Make your cause known.

When something really bothers me, I complain about it, but I also do something about it.

Does this really bother you?

Why can't we just be an observer of the strikingly different societal and media reaction to an unarmed black person vs. white person getting gunned down by police, and then comment on that strikingly different reaction? Why do we have to personally be involved in creating a media storm or a protest?

The fact that the BLM crowd didn't create a media storm and protest with the event described by the OP does the BLM crowd no favors: it makes everyone else think this crowd isn't based on a concern for humanity in general but rather a very narrow and biased concern for their own particular tribe. It can therefore more readily dismissed as an aspect of tribalism and the underlying issues more easily ignored by members of different tribes. Not a good thing if your goal is to get members of other tribes to support your cause, being as very little concern is being shown for members of those other tribes and excessive concern being shown for members of your own particular tribe.

You do get that the BLM movement...

Wait a minute

Let the one of the women who disrupted the Sander's rally speak for herself.


 
A female cop shot and killed and unarmed white man and is not getting indicted. But there are no riots, no wall to wall coverage on cable news stations, no angry threads posted by the likes of Athena.
Des Moines Officer Won’t Be Charged After Gunning Down Unarmed Man From Her Car
The justification for the shooting (erratic walking) appears to be much less than for Jonathan Ferrell or Michael Brown, but again, Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
In addition photos of cops who shot black suspects are shown everywhere be it Kerrick or Wilson etc. But there is no photo of Venessa Miller I could find anywhere. Female privilege?
What I find odd is you seem to be concentrating on the fact she is a female, not that the victim was white.
 
A female cop shot and killed and unarmed white man and is not getting indicted. But there are no riots, no wall to wall coverage on cable news stations, no angry threads posted by the likes of Athena.
Des Moines Officer Won’t Be Charged After Gunning Down Unarmed Man From Her Car
The justification for the shooting (erratic walking) appears to be much less than for Jonathan Ferrell or Michael Brown, but again, Bollinger is white so his death doesn't matter I guess.
In addition photos of cops who shot black suspects are shown everywhere be it Kerrick or Wilson etc. But there is no photo of Venessa Miller I could find anywhere. Female privilege?
What I find odd is you seem to be concentrating on the fact she is a female, not that the victim was white.

Or that it was her being a cop that afforded her a gun, the opportunity, and the lawful ability to shoot.
 
What I don't understand is that Derec apparently has no trouble with the shooting, or does he?
 
What I don't understand is that Derec apparently has no trouble with the shooting, or does he?

None at all, other than the fact that the shooter was a woman.

No, his problem is that ignorant black people aren't using it as an excuse to start rioting, which is apparently proof that black people are racist.
 
What I don't understand is that Derec apparently has no trouble with the shooting, or does he?

None at all, other than the fact that the shooter was a woman.

No, his problem is that ignorant black people aren't using it as an excuse to start rioting, which is apparently proof that black people are racist.
He does have a point that the media aren't reporting much on it, much like they didn't report much on the case in Texas where the police fucked up and ended up killing a teenaged girl. But how many police slayings are we still not hearing about?

Which is why we asking for stats.
 
None at all, other than the fact that the shooter was a woman.

No, his problem is that ignorant black people aren't using it as an excuse to start rioting, which is apparently proof that black people are racist.
He does have a point that the media aren't reporting much on it, much like they didn't report much on the case in Texas where the police fucked up and ended up killing a teenaged girl. But how many police slayings are we still not hearing about?

Which is why we asking for stats.

The police shooting people is a thing that happens on a regular basis. Citizens protesting that shooting does not. Protests are what gets coverage. If there are no protests, if there are no "money shots" for the cameras, then there will be no coverage.
 
I think you're confusing the situation. The article says he was running away.
From the linked article in the OP
He was stopped on Merle Hay Road. Officers say Bolinger then got out of his car and approached Miller’s patrol car “Walking with a purpose”, so she opened fire through the window of her closed car door, striking Bolinger in the torso.
Bollinger was not running away when he was killed. Bollinger was not armed when he was killed. No one reported Bollinger shooting at anyone.

Please try to acquaint yourself with the contents of OP articles.

I was talking about the article linked in the message I was replying to.
 
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