do you know anyone who's sold or given their soul to the devil?

[Ford]

Have you or do you know of anyone who has?

I didn't sell my soul, but I did rent it out to this particularly persuasive demon. Jeez, that fucking guy.


Do you know how hard it is to get your security deposit back from a demon? And it isn't like I didn't have a case. It took months for the cleaning company to get the blood off the ceiling alone.

What did I get out of it? Well, not much. A shit load of a crypto-currency he convinced me would take off. DogeCoin was supposed to be the next big thing, and I figured since I already had a Shiba Inu it would pay off big time. Well I was wrong. Such wrong. So ripped off. Wow.


A word of advice, folks: Don't sell, lease, or rent to own your soul unless the payment is in US currency or something tangible like 3 wishes. And don't sign the deal in blood! That stuff will wash out of anything with enough baking soda.

 

[fast]

I know of someone who has and it affected them psychologically quite badly. Have you or do you know of anyone who has?

Isn't the idea of selling one's soul to the devil a metaphor that shouldn't be taken literally? You say that you know someone who has, and that implies that it's actually possible--since knowledge of the truth implies truth. I'm not arguing that it's not possible--It just seems to be metaphorical. For instance, believing in yet turning away from Christ might (perhaps) be considered selling one's soul to the devil ... not really sure, but even if it's true that one's soul would be destined to go to the devil, it's not as if there was an actual pre-death exchange of sorts, meaning, what did the seller get in the exchange?

If by chance it's just a metaphor, then you don't really know someone that has in fact did it. If it isn't a metaphor and can actually be done, then there's still the possibility that although he thinks he did, he could be mistaken and didn't actually do it. In that latter case, you still don't know someone who has. Now, if he can, and if he did, you don't therefore know he did, but let's suppose you're right and you do know, he can, and he did: ya might wanna look into seeing if it can be undone, like it never happened.

 

[bilby]

I don't know anyone who has sold their soul to the devil, for exactly the same reasons that I don't know anyone who attended Hogwarts school of witchcraft and wizardry.























...and that's not ONLY because I am an anti-social introvert, who has few friends and doesn't get out much.

 

[markhope]

For those that believe selling or giving a soul away is possible, do you know how you can get it back??

Tell you what, Im willing to trade in my soul for 20000$ to make an even deal with the devil to get your friends soul back. If the devils thinks the trade is a hassle and he's got no interest, throw in another 1000$ the deal with him, that way he also gets something.

I am willing to send my soul in advance, and Ive actually already sent it to his hollow shell to be held when the trade with the devil is done, but you are welcome to send my share now.

Thanks for the offer, they don't have the cash though!

 

[tantric]

i made a deal with a bunch of disembodied ultraterrestrials that's for life/unbreakable. they don't get my soul, as i don't have one, but they get to use my brain/observation to collapse probability fields. in return, i learn some of that. don't think i'm kidding, here's the contract:

"In ones life there can be peculiarly appropriate chains of related events that lead to consequences that are strongly desired. After such experiences, one wonders how such a series of events developed; sometimes there is a strong feeling that some intelligence (greater than ours) directed the course along certain lines which It/He/She was/is programming. Several years ago, I enunsiated a format for such concatenations of events, somewhat [sic?]

"There exists a Cosmic Control Center (C.C.C.) with a Galactic substation called Galactic Coincidence Control (G.C.C.). Within which is the Solar System Control Unit (S.S.C.U.), within which is the Earth Coincidence Control Office (E.C.C.O.). The assignments of responsiblities from the top to the bottom of this system of control is by a set of regulations, which translated by E.C.C.O. for humans is somewhat as follows:

"To all humans If you wish to control coincidences in your own life on the planet Earth, we will cooperate and determine those coincidences for you under the following conditions:


1) You must know/assume/simulate our existence in ECCO


2) You must be willing to accept our responsibility for control of your coincidences.


3) You must exert your best capabilities for your survival programs and your own development as an advancing/advanced member of ECCO's earthside corps of controlled coincidence workers. You are expected to use your best intelligence in this service


4) You are expected to expect the unexpected every minute, every hour of every day and of every night.


5) You must be able to maintain conscious/thinking/ reasoning no matter what events we arrange to happen to you. Some of these events will seem catachlysmic/catastrophic/overwhelming: remember stay aware, no matter what happens/apparently happens to you.


6) You are in our training program for life: there is no escape from it. We (not you ) control the long-term coincidences; you (not we) control the shorter-term coincidences by your own efforts.


7) Your major mission on earth is to discover/create that which we do to control the long-term coincidence patterns: you are being trained on Earth to do this job.


8) When your mission on planet Earth is completed, you will no longer be required to remain/return there.


9) Remember the motto passed to us (from GCC via SSCU):

"Cosmic Love is absolutelely Ruthless and Highly Indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

 

[Malintent]

saw a kind of funny movie the other day... I thought it was called Hellbound or Hellbent... but that's not it... can't find it..
It was about a bunch of priests that committed as many sins as possible to ensure they would all go to hell when they died (even if last rights were performed). They were in the Exorcism business. Their intent was to be able to trick a demon into jumping into them, so that they could commit suicide at the critical instant, and drag the demon back to hell with them as they died... It was pretty funny.. "Did you sodomize anyone today? No? Get Harry down here right away".
They all sat around and smoked pot, jerking off, stealing things from people, buggered each other... pretty funny.

 

[Bronzeage]

saw a kind of funny movie the other day... I thought it was called Hellbound or Hellbent... but that's not it... can't find it..
It was about a bunch of priests that committed as many sins as possible to ensure they would all go to hell when they died (even if last rights were performed). They were in the Exorcism business. Their intent was to be able to trick a demon into jumping into them, so that they could commit suicide at the critical instant, and drag the demon back to hell with them as they died... It was pretty funny.. "Did you sodomize anyone today? No? Get Harry down here right away".
They all sat around and smoked pot, jerking off, stealing things from people, buggered each other... pretty funny.

Jesuit porn is the worst.

 

[tantric]

to confudle a xtian: ask them if they would go to hell willingly to save other people....

 

[Keith&Co.]

to confudle a xtian: ask them if they would go to hell willingly to save other people....

That was my theory before i left the Church.

I felt that a True Christain could not enjoy the pleasures of Heaven as long as any single person suffered the agonies of Hell. Or our version, the outer darkness.
I figured out that it was the last test. A loving God wouldn't send anyone to Hell, so the whole point of damnation was to see if you were the kind of Christain who agonized over their suffering or if you were one of those assholes who looked forward to being on a cloud with a clear view of the Lake of Fire, looking down with a smile to see those who had personally offended you God, or defeated you God's word in a debate, or lived their life as if your opinion God's Word didn't matter.

I was willing to suffer Hell to let anyone out, even Hitler or one of those Christains who spread spittle as they described the horrible tortures awaiting gays, democrats, the ERA activists and atheists.

When i shared this opinion with members of my congregation, the reaction was not confuddled. They were quite clear that no True Christain would question God's judgment in sending a deserving person to Hell. No one could be Christain and want Hell more than they wanted Heaven.

Turned out they were right. That was the beginning of the end and soon i wasn't even slightly a Christain.

 

[Bronzeage]

to confudle a xtian: ask them if they would go to hell willingly to save other people....

It's been done. It's called setting a bad example.

 

[Rhea]

Do you mean THINKS they have sold? Someone who imagines that they had an actual discussion where they think they gave up any hope of redemption in order to get some Thing? I have met many religious people who think they have had conversations with the supernatural. And yeah, sometimes it really messes them up.

Yes, they believed in at some point. I just wondered how common it was and whether anyone had any 'supernatural' experiences after they did this?

Isn't every single Christian one of these, really? They sell their soul to Yahweh, and promise to serve him and they really really believe it.

 

[Underseer]

I know of someone who has and it affected them psychologically quite badly. Have you or do you know of anyone who has?

No, but I know someone who sold their soul to Voldemort, which proves that Voldemort is definitely real. That guy was psychologically messed up by the experience. It's really awful.

 

[none]

I know of someone who has and it affected them psychologically quite badly. Have you or do you know of anyone who has?

I paid the devil to take mine.

 

[DBT]

I sold my soul to corporate profits...I get to work a 40 hour plus week for 50 years and they collect the profits. Dealing with 'Management' must be something like dealing with the 'Devil.' I can't see the difference.

 

[bilby]

I sold my soul to corporate profits...I get to work a 40 hour plus week for 50 years and they collect the profits. Dealing with 'Management' must be something like dealing with the 'Devil.' I can't see the difference.

There is a huge difference. One is the supreme embodiment of evil, bent on the destruction of the souls of all mortals, fierce, remorseless and uncompromising, but capable of using deceit, trickery and underhanded behaviour to force people into one sided contracts that lead to their ultimate doom; and the other is the fictional adversary to a fictional God.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Isn't every single Christian one of these, really? They sell their soul to Yahweh, and promise to serve him and they really really believe it.

Maybe that's why Satanists are so much more fun?

I mean, once you sell your soul to Satan, the deal's done. It's not like you can ever accidentally do some good and have Satan repudiate the contract.

But even if you send God your soul and pay for the shipping and double-check the address labels, there's always the chance God will suddenly decide the goods are tainted and there you are, ensouled with a spirit God won't even sell off in a secondary market to get some profit out of the deal.

It'd be like selling a car with 2000 miles on it, then ten years later the new owner decides it's your fault that it's got 200,000 miles, a rusting frame, and is currently half-way through the wall of a tattoo shop in Tijuana. Now it's your problem.

 

[tantric]

to confudle a xtian: ask them if they would go to hell willingly to save other people....

That was my theory before i left the Church.

I felt that a True Christain could not enjoy the pleasures of Heaven as long as any single person suffered the agonies of Hell. Or our version, the outer darkness.
I figured out that it was the last test. A loving God wouldn't send anyone to Hell, so the whole point of damnation was to see if you were the kind of Christain who agonized over their suffering or if you were one of those assholes who looked forward to being on a cloud with a clear view of the Lake of Fire, looking down with a smile to see those who had personally offended you God, or defeated you God's word in a debate, or lived their life as if your opinion God's Word didn't matter.

I was willing to suffer Hell to let anyone out, even Hitler or one of those Christains who spread spittle as they described the horrible tortures awaiting gays, democrats, the ERA activists and atheists.

When i shared this opinion with members of my congregation, the reaction was not confuddled. They were quite clear that no True Christain would question God's judgment in sending a deserving person to Hell. No one could be Christain and want Hell more than they wanted Heaven.

Turned out they were right. That was the beginning of the end and soon i wasn't even slightly a Christain.

you know you're talking about the bodhisattva vow, right?

May I be a protector to those without protection,
A leader for those who journey,
And a boat, a bridge, a passage
For those desiring the further shore.

May the pain of every living creature
Be completely cleared away.
May I be the doctor and the medicine
And may I be the nurse
For all sick beings in the world
Until everyone is healed.

-Shantideva

which refers to abstaining from leaving samsara until all suffering is healed. just fyi - i took it, though for me it was the agent agreement with Coincidence Control Central.

 

[tantric]

to confudle a xtian: ask them if they would go to hell willingly to save other people....

It's been done. It's called setting a bad example.

yo, dixie, likin the heat yet? ;-)

are you saying that poking mild fun at xtians is a bad example, or something else? i've led xtian prayer circles, but that doesn't stop me from debating with them. most seem to enjoy bouncing around ideas, and i usually try to help strengthen their faith in some way.

 

[Keith&Co.]

you know you're talking about the bodhisattva vow, right?

Please don't do that.

No, i'm not talking about any vow, i'm talking about what was, at that time, my understanding of what being a Christain was all about. Compassion for others, even our enemies, self-sacrifice and unstinting love.

 

[Bronzeage]

It's been done. It's called setting a bad example.

yo, dixie, likin the heat yet? ;-)

are you saying that poking mild fun at xtians is a bad example, or something else? i've led xtian prayer circles, but that doesn't stop me from debating with them. most seem to enjoy bouncing around ideas, and i usually try to help strengthen their faith in some way.

Mild fun seems to have gone right past you.