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Oof. Well, I think the critical county to watch is Fairfax. Louden is a good bellwether too. I've worked the ground in both of those counties. Louden and Fairfax both tend blue, but Louden is much more purple, having been much more rural in the past, although it is now much more suburbanized. Anyway, a 45,017 D to 29,786 R split bodes well. So far, the map looks like it needs to look for a win, but high turnout in Fairfax and Louden could be enough to win it. A good minority turnout in Henrico and Hampton would also be a good sign.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
It is being called for Northam by Associated Press. The New Jersey Governor's numbers are coming in now.
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Northam 53.3% Gillespie 45.5% with 83% of precincts counted. That a better margin than what Hillary won in Virginia. So it looks like Democrats showed up in pretty good numbers to vote.

In New Jersey, the race has been called for the Democrat.
 
Kilgore Trout said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
It is being called for Northam by Associated Press. The New Jersey Governor's numbers are coming in now.
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Northam 53.3% Gillespie 45.5% with 83% of precincts counted. That a better margin than what Hillary won in Virginia. So it looks like Democrats showed up in pretty good numbers to vote.

In New Jersey, the race has been called for the Democrat.
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The Virginia state legislature needs 17 seats to flip it to control of the Democrats. They have won 10 and are leading in 8 more. A lawsuit has forced redistricting due to gerrymandering, this is going to be interesting. In New Jersey, Murphy (Democrat) has been projected the winner.

Tomorrow of Fox there will be much butt hurt and angry lamentations.
 
@realdonaldtrump said:
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for.
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Yeah, right. He lost because he didn't embrace a president with mid-thirties approval rating in Virginia.
 
Here in NYC they're talking about the county executive races. Because property taxes are so high in counties like Nassau, Republicans have been winning. OTOH, these areas went big for HRC. So the question is, is hatred of Trump enough to cause voters to deprioritize their property taxes.
 
This has got to be putting a chill up the spine of the RNC.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
Virginia legislature vote
Democrats flip the state house

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/virginia-general-elections

[h=2]House of Delegates[/h] Dem. 48 (+14 seats)
Rep. 47
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From Wikipedia

With 99% of precincts reporting as of November 8, 2017, Democrats control 48 seats, Republicans control 47 seats, and 5 districts are likely to be decided in a recount: the 27th, 28th, 40th, 68th, and 94th districts. If the current leaders in each district win, the House will be split 50-50.
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Cheerful Charlie said:
Virginia legislature vote
Democrats flip the state house

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/virginia-general-elections

House of Delegates

Dem. 48 (+14 seats)
Rep. 47
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I think this is really the only thing of note that happened last night. Northam won a state Clinton won, but around the same margin. A Democrat beat a Republican in a state where the Republican currently in office has a lower approval rating than the number of pull ups he can do in a month. So New Jersey told us nothing. NYC and Boston, nothing new. The Republicans won the House seat in a comfortably red district in Utah.

So the only thing that happened of note was the swing in the House in Virginia. What bothers me is that the map for the Northam win doesn't show any purpling (yes, that is a word) of districts since Trump's election.

What this tells me is I think America has an ability to separate local politics from Trump. This isn't good. And while the Democrats could have an advantage going into '18, with districts so gerrymandered, it might not even matter.
 
And to cap the night, news 2 more GOP representatives will not seek re-election. Including Texas' own Ted Poe. One of our stupidest.
 
This should make the 12 Dec special election in Alabama more interesting. The polls still favor Ayatollah Moore, but it seems that a bit of a rebellion is forming in Alabama. Of course turnout could end up being critical...
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/gop4jones_some_republican_vote.html
Some Alabama conservatives are rallying around democrat Doug Jones in order to keep Roy Moore out of the Senate. Graphic designer Jack Helean of Huntsville, Ala. created this photo mock-up using a #GOP4Jones logo he created.
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Cheerful Charlie said:
And to cap the night, news 2 more GOP representatives will not seek re-election. Including Texas' own Ted Poe. One of our stupidest.
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So how does he compare to Louie Gohmert, of Jade Helm 15 fantasy fame?
 
funinspace said:
This should make the 12 Dec special election in Alabama more interesting. The polls still favor Ayatollah Moore, but it seems that a bit of a rebellion is forming in Alabama. Of course turnout could end up being critical...
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/gop4jones_some_republican_vote.html
Some Alabama conservatives are rallying around democrat Doug Jones in order to keep Roy Moore out of the Senate. Graphic designer Jack Helean of Huntsville, Ala. created this photo mock-up using a #GOP4Jones logo he created.
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Yeah, we go back in the way back machine all the way to the 21st century in November. We learned that for the most part, Republicans will vote for almost anyone that is a Republican. You look at the third party vote for the Libertarian candidate... they didn't choose him, they chose the narcissistic, sociopathic, pussy grabbin' asshole over the conservative Democrat.

We are talking about a state that re-elected Moore to the Alabama Supreme Court after getting fired from it (how in the heck did he not get disbarred?). Alabama voted in huge numbers to elect Trump over Clinton. Moore is more qualified, career wise, for the job, though his serious fuck ups on the job also count against him greatly (in a sane world). But in Alabama, the idea of Democrat being elected Senator seems so far fetched, especially because the state went with Trump, who has not a single religious bone in his body. The Republican Party lost its soul a while ago, and it is very noticeable these days. The oddness, with Moore in the Senate, it is hard to tell how much of a loss that is for the Democrats. Will Moore make Rand Paul look cooperative?
 
funinspace said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
And to cap the night, news 2 more GOP representatives will not seek re-election. Including Texas' own Ted Poe. One of our stupidest.
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So how does he compare to Louie Gohmert, of Jade Helm 15 fantasy fame?
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He's a tea party Republican. He has one of the worst womens' health care records in the House. he has loudly supported low taxes and smaller government. he has voted to end ACA. He opposes DACA. He is a climate change denier. Tried to get a bill passed that presidential candidates had to present a birth certificate, aimed at Barak Obama. The consummate right winger. On the other hand, he has worked against human trafficking issues.

Poe is a right winged doofus.

In August 2011 AlterNet reported that Poe, along with John Culberson and Michael McCaul, was attempting to remove the right of deceased soldiers' families to choose which prayers, if any, were to be read at a soldier's funeral.[45][46] The three politicians were said to be attempting to impose Christian ceremonies on the military funerals of everybody who has served in the military, regardless of whether or not the deceased was Christian and with or without the consent of the family of the deceased. The three politicians stated their demands were a response to Veterans Affairs (VA) banning Christian prayers at military funerals. VA, however, asserted that this claim was "blatantly false" and that VA respects a family's "rights to pray however they choose at our national cemeteries".[45][46]



 
Big pharma spent $75 million in Ohio against a law requiring drug prices purchased by government entities be negotiated. The law did not pass.
 
For some really crazy news, Akron passed a 0.25% income tax increase (ie from 2.25% to 2.5%) nearly 70% to 30%. The spending is earmarked for EMS (3/4) and Roads (1/4). I'm not aware of an income tax increase that has passed with such approval before.
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Big pharma spent $75 million in Ohio against a law requiring drug prices purchased by government entities be negotiated. The law did not pass.
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Issue 2 in Ohio was an odd one. Almost no advertisements from either side actually explained shit.

Pro Issue 2 stated the big pharma wanted to stop it.
Anti Issue 2 said that Issue 2 was misleading.

The issue at hand was that other than the people who put forth Issue 2, there was no organization that supported. No nurse group, doctor group, AARP, hospital, no one! When I looked at the Anti Issue 2 website, I was curious about how almost everyone and their grandmother was against it. So I checked the organizations against it and they were legitimate and had good reasons to be against it.

In general, the law required a couple things:

  • the state to pay no more for drugs than the rates for the VA
  • if the Issue was challenged in court, the state of Ohio had to defend and pay the lawyers for Issue 2 to defend it

That second half of the second part was the real head scratcher, and something that seemed unsupportable. Any way, the state of Ohio already gets bulk discounts for Medicaid and seeing that most people who live in Ohio, aren't Ohio state organizations, but rather... you know people... there was no control on the costs for drugs for their health plans. The bill wouldn't touch the majority of Ohioans.

Anti-Issue 2 would go on to say that it could increase drug costs for that majority, which I don't know is true or not. What I do know is that the Issue was selling cheaper drug prices for Ohio. But:

  • It didn't apply to the majority of Ohioans
  • They couldn't say how much cheaper the VA price list was than the existing Ohio price list
  • The VA list doesn't include all drugs

So overall, it seemed like a shoddy bill, with a funky stench regarding the 'Ohio has to pay us to help us defend the bill in court'. So a no vote seemed appropriate.
 
I did my part and voted yesterday and was pleased to read about the results today.

Also thrilled that a transgender beat the "chief homophobe." :D

J842P said:
Oof. Well, I think the critical county to watch is Fairfax. Louden is a good bellwether too. I've worked the ground in both of those counties. Louden and Fairfax both tend blue, but Louden is much more purple, having been much more rural in the past, although it is now much more suburbanized. Anyway, a 45,017 D to 29,786 R split bodes well. So far, the map looks like it needs to look for a win, but high turnout in Fairfax and Louden could be enough to win it. A good minority turnout in Henrico and Hampton would also be a good sign.
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Since Bilby is probably not familiar with Virginia county names, I must step in and correct you. It's Loudoun County. :)
 
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