Elizabeth Warren claims Michael Brown was "murdered"

[Derec]

From her official campaign Twitter account.

5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times. I stand with activists and organizers who continue the fight for justice for Michael. We must confront systemic racism and police violence head on.

Never mind that this "gentle giant" robbed a convenience store right before his encounter with Wilson. Never mind that he reached inside Wilson's SUV trying to get his gun. Never mind that, after briefly running away (after being shot in the thumb), he turned around and advanced toward Wilson. Never mind that the whole "hands up don't shoot" narrative was exposed as false. Never mind that both the local grand jury and the Eric Holder DOJ exonerated him. In other words, never mind all the facts.

Doesn't Fauxachontas claim to have a law degree? She should know what constitutes murder then.

P.S.: Is Toni going to ask Elizabeth Warren if she knew MB well? After all, she is using Michael's given name freely, and we all know how Toni feels about that.
P.P.S.: Most of the comments are very negative. Good to see her virtue signalling did not quite work as intended.

 

[Politesse]

From a legal standpoint, Derec's "facts" are hardly established either. News coverage and fact are indeed far distant from one another.

But neither is the charge of murder, and using that term is irresponsible; it is inflammatory by nature, and should be used lightly in connection with situations where there is a lot of ambiguity and unresolved legal question.

My opinion: Neither Derec's openly racist attitudes (including the racial pejorative he has applied to Warren herself), nor Elizabeth Warren's willingly hyperbolic statements would be appropriate from the mouth of a sitting president. But only one of these individuals is running for president at the moment. Warren is not setting a good precedent for level-headed political exchange in this case.

 

[Derec]

From a legal standpoint, Derec's "facts" are hardly established either.

As established as they can be. There never was a trial because there never was probable cause that a crime has been committed against Michael Brown, only by him. Starting with the robbery.

News coverage and fact are indeed far distant from one another.

Especially early coverage that described him as a "gentle giant". The two converged more later on.

But neither is the charge of murder, and using that term is irresponsible; it is inflammatory by nature, and should be used lightly in connection with situations where there is a lot of ambiguity and unresolved legal question.

We agree there.

My opinion: Neither Derec's openly racist attitudes

I have zero racist attitudes, open or otherwise.

(including the racial pejorative he has applied to Warren herself),

Which is based not on Warren's race (she is whiter than me for fuck's sake!) but her claimed "native" American status.

nor Elizabeth Warren's willingly hyperbolic statements would be appropriate from the mouth of a sitting president. But only one of these individuals is running for president at the moment. Warren is not setting a good precedent for level-headed political exchange in this case.

Yupp.

 

[laughing dog]

I have zero racist attitudes, open or otherwise.

You think the pejorative "Fauxachontas" is not consistent with racism or bigotry?

 

[ZiprHead]

I have zero racist attitudes, open or otherwise.

 

[Derec]

You think the pejorative "Fauxachontas" is not consistent with racism or bigotry?

It makes fun of her appropriating a racial identity she does not have. Kind of like calling Shaun King "Talcum X".
Not everything is "bigoted" just because you want it to be.

By the way, Kamala Harris is on the "Michael Brown was totally murdered, y'all" bandwagon.
Elizabeth Warren & Kamala Harris up the 2020 Dem pandering ante by remembering day Michael Brown was ‘murdered by a white police officer’
Some other candidates wrote tweets expressing support for Michael Brown, but have not gone so far as to use the

 

[laughing dog]

You think the pejorative "Fauxachontas" is not consistent with racism or bigotry?

It makes fun of her appropriating a racial identity she does not have. Kind of like calling Shaun King "Talcum X".

That is a cracker jack response - making fun of someone's racial identity is not evidence of bigotry.

 

[Derec]

That is a cracker jack response - making fun of someone's racial identity is not evidence of bigotry.

I am not making fun about somebody's "racial identity", but about them lying about their racial identity.
But what do you think about Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris lying about Michael Brown being "murdered"?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I have zero racist attitudes, open or otherwise.

You think the pejorative "Fauxachontas" is not consistent with racism or bigotry?

I don't see that as evidence of racism.

"Fauxachontas" is criticizing her for claiming to be Native American when she isn't, it says nothing about how one feels about Native Americans.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

That is a cracker jack response - making fun of someone's racial identity is not evidence of bigotry.

I am not making fun about somebody's "racial identity", but about them lying about their racial identity.
But what do you think about Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris lying about Michael Brown being "murdered"?

I think the Democrats are being utterly stupid, pandering to the far left when the road to beating His Flatulence is in the middle.

 

[Elixir]

That is a cracker jack response - making fun of someone's racial identity is not evidence of bigotry.

I am not making fun about somebody's "racial identity", but about them lying about their racial identity.
But what do you think about Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris lying about Michael Brown being "murdered"?

I think the Democrats are being utterly stupid, pandering to the far left when the road to beating His Flatulence is in the middle.

Yeah, they need an Eisenhower. But wait - if someone of his ilk was running as a Democrat today, he'd be labeled a radical socialist left wing extremist.
Maybe a Bush?

 

[Politesse]

What is "the middle"? Who is in it, and what do they want?

 

[laughing dog]

That is a cracker jack response - making fun of someone's racial identity is not evidence of bigotry.

I am not making fun about somebody's "racial identity", but about them lying about their racial identity.

She did not lie about her racial identity. Apparently she firmly believed the stories she was told while she grew up, and the dna test does provide some genetic evidence to support her story. Sorry, your crack is evidence of bigotry, especially given your documented history here.

But what do you think about Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris lying about Michael Brown being "murdered"?

In order for them to be lying they have to know that Mr. Brown was not murdered. If they believe he was murdered then they are not lying, even if their belief is incorrect. You have yet to produce any evidence that their belief of murder is insincere.

Why do you feel the need to accuse people of lying simply because you either disagree with their opinion or because they make a false statement?

Both Ms. Warren and Ms. Harris are entitled to their opinions. The Michael Brown incident is not so well-documented or clear cut as your portray. However, it is over, and real leaders should not try to stoke the fires of disunity and act like Mr. Trump. I think their remarks are inopportune and do them and the USA a disservice.

 

[Elixir]

Why do you feel the need to accuse people of lying simply because you either disagree with their opinion or because they make a false statement?

That is often the case with people who regularly make false statements themselves. When called liars, they lash out with a vengeance for exactly the reasons you cite.

 

[blastula]

I have zero racist attitudes, open or otherwise.

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[Half-Life]

How come no one complains of racial profiling if a black officer follows a white man through a black neighborhood and pulls him over and asks what he's doing here?

 

[Keith&Co.]

How come no one complains of racial profiling if a black officer follows a white man through a black neighborhood and pulls him over and asks what he's doing here?

How often does this happen, Half?

 

[abaddon]

How come no one complains of racial profiling if a black officer follows a white man through a black neighborhood and pulls him over and asks what he's doing here?

You mean, just spontaneously start complaining out of the blue with no specific examples to complain about?

 

[Half-Life]

How come no one complains of racial profiling if a black officer follows a white man through a black neighborhood and pulls him over and asks what he's doing here?

How often does this happen, Half?

"You're a white man in a black neighborhood. You must be here looking for drugs."

"You're a black man in a white neighborhood. You must be here selling drugs."

 

[Keith&Co.]

How come no one complains of racial profiling if a black officer follows a white man through a black neighborhood and pulls him over and asks what he's doing here?

How often does this happen, Half?

"You're a white man in a black neighborhood. You must be here looking for drugs."

"You're a black man in a white neighborhood. You must be here selling drugs."

Yeah, completely different question: how often does this happen?