Will Wiley
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The problem is you have the timeline wrong.
Russia's attack wasn't the start of the war. Rather, their backing "separatists" started it. Same story as in Ukraine--plenty of dirty deeds before the open conflict.
barbos
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Exactly my point. Listeners of western propaganda still believe said propaganda.
The point is that it was still basically Russia invading innocent Georgia. It's just your version omitted the stage-setting.
barbos
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Suuuuuure
BH
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I don't believe anything unless it is in The Corsicana Daily Sun, and even then only because being a small town paper I am a phone book away or a person or two away from getting a phone number to verify any story in it.
Twenty years ago we had a black man die in police custody after they beat him to get him under control or so they claimed. I do not know whether it was justified or not to this day. I do know that some professor came to town and ate breakfast at one of our local restaraunts and complained everyone, customers and staff, stared at him because he was Asian American and acted liked they hated him being there because he was a "slant eye jink". The man who owned the cafe said he received no complaints about anything. I myself have eaten at that restaraunt many times and know lots of people of all races eat there without anyone batting an eye. I know the owner personally and many of the staff then and know they would not mind an asian man coming in and eating there. So, that forever proved to me supposed writers for newspapers pull stuff out of their butt.
Twenty years ago we had a black man die in police custody after they beat him to get him under control or so they claimed. I do not know whether it was justified or not to this day. I do know that some professor came to town and ate breakfast at one of our local restaraunts and complained everyone, customers and staff, stared at him because he was Asian American and acted liked they hated him being there because he was a "slant eye jink". The man who owned the cafe said he received no complaints about anything. I myself have eaten at that restaraunt many times and know lots of people of all races eat there without anyone batting an eye. I know the owner personally and many of the staff then and know they would not mind an asian man coming in and eating there. So, that forever proved to me supposed writers for newspapers pull stuff out of their butt.
A big problem I see with fake news is the excessive astroturfing lately. Open a social media page and look around at what is flashing. You can advertise anything you want because you're free to do that but you shouldn't be allowed to decorate 30% of my profile page with scary little boxes suggesting that politicians are pedophiles and the world is going to blow up any minute now. Personally I don't need to see that.
Social media companies have screwed around done something awful. Anyone following what is happening with that? Some say social media is the great distractor that was used to steal my female President. And many say they are still running game on us. Setting us up for the big okey doke. Not good.
Social media companies have screwed around done something awful. Anyone following what is happening with that? Some say social media is the great distractor that was used to steal my female President. And many say they are still running game on us. Setting us up for the big okey doke. Not good.
Jaecp
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Well, yeah man, of course fake news spreads faster than real news if we don't stop it.
Real news is like "The weather is .3 degrees hotter this month than any previous month on record and the quarterly update to U3 unemployment numbers has dropped from 4.8 to 4.6 as we move into the final quarter of the year"
Fake news is like "Hillary Clinton hired goons to break into Bernie Sanders house and take a shit on his lawn after Bill cheated on her by watching Westworld Stoned with Bernie instead of helping her cope after stunning loss to Trump!"
Real news is like "The weather is .3 degrees hotter this month than any previous month on record and the quarterly update to U3 unemployment numbers has dropped from 4.8 to 4.6 as we move into the final quarter of the year"
Fake news is like "Hillary Clinton hired goons to break into Bernie Sanders house and take a shit on his lawn after Bill cheated on her by watching Westworld Stoned with Bernie instead of helping her cope after stunning loss to Trump!"
Elixir
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Because it helped cause Americans to elect a psychopathic egotistical moron as its president?
Just a guess...
The most damaging astroturfing is primarily in the advertisement spaces of a webpage - and you don't need to click on the ad links to be affected by them. Seeing the picture and the short caption is all it takes. Over and over. There it is. All day you see it flash, and clicking on the link is irrelevant.
Is there sanity left in our digitally constructed (figurative) reality? Enough to recognize what just happened? Something did happen. You don't need to buy into Project Blue Beam or the Montauk monster to grasp the situation here. This is something happening in actual reality, and the fact that most people are too distracted to care is frightening on many levels.
Is there sanity left in our digitally constructed (figurative) reality? Enough to recognize what just happened? Something did happen. You don't need to buy into Project Blue Beam or the Montauk monster to grasp the situation here. This is something happening in actual reality, and the fact that most people are too distracted to care is frightening on many levels.
Click here for 12 secret ways to deal with that fear!
DrZoidberg
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There is a difference. Back in the day everything had to pass through the gates of one of the main news outlets. There were a lot of eyes on a small surface. Same principle behind open source coding. It leads to better quality overall. What you have now is that there is no gate keepers. The only eyes on a piece of news is most likely people who are biased already to that world view. Today we're all in our various bubbles. We don't have the required media landscape necessary to reveal fake news. There's snopes. But that requires a skeptics mind-set to begin with. And let's face it, scepticism is also it's own bubble of sorts.
It's going to get weirder. I don't think we've seen anything yet. Trump just made shit up on the fly, obviously the people who voted for him weren't aware of that. That is odd IMHO, and the result of this media landscape
Malintent
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A trump supporter I spoke with recently said this.. and I quote directly, "I don't believe in facts".
nuf said. The "truth" is what gets the most "likes".
Elixir
Made in America
That's the alt-reality that Trump and his yes-men are pushing. Facts are immutable, and are therefore useless.
"Truth" is belief based, and can be whatever the expedience of the moment requires. Welcome to Trumpistan.
repoman
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This is the best FakeNewz:
Oh damn, PizzaGate proven Satanic. Illuminati confirmed!
Oh damn, PizzaGate proven Satanic. Illuminati confirmed!
DrZoidberg
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I'd say that there's a discrepancy between how you interpret the word "facts". I think, what he's saying is that he doesn't believe that the facts produced by the media represents the truth. He thinks they are false. Which is something completely different than him just admitting to being an idiot. I think he saw your belief in "facts" that you admitted to being an idiot. It's an unfortunate position from which to discuss stuff.
Will Wiley
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How many more wars are you planning on supporting?
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This is another example of RT faking news. BBC did not "fake" anything, they used a different clip in short news to avoid giving a false impression of what was going on, and the full clip in the documentary later on.
really, if RT's weather forecast said it's raining, I'd still have to go out to check because almsot everything that they spew is a lie, a distortion, or an exaggeration.
DrZoidberg
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And just so everybody understands this. This is our fault. News agencies are in the business of selling news. Being trustworthy only has value if their readers value it and are willing to pay for it. The willingness to for it is critical. We're sliding over to a news landscape where news outlets are increasingly being dominated by agencies in the business of confirming biases. This type of news is way cheaper to produce. Because they don't need to check anything. They just need to be skilled writers.
When was the last time you paid for news? I haven't paid for news since the 90'ies. I may have bought an occasional copy of the Economist on some long flight, in case my phone would die. But that's it. So I'm also part of the problem. So I shouldn't complain to loudly.
When was the last time you paid for news? I haven't paid for news since the 90'ies. I may have bought an occasional copy of the Economist on some long flight, in case my phone would die. But that's it. So I'm also part of the problem. So I shouldn't complain to loudly.
And also it is "our" fault because half of the news (the stuff what makes think) comes from regular, unpaid people with basically the same media power as someone paying to run a small network. Makes you wonder why you need to be a billionaire to run for President. Well I guess you don't, but win I mean.
Ha and yes pizzagate is a social media psyop. Yes! Obviously because if you rearrange the letters in their last name and watch episode 119 of TMNT you will all see the light. 9/10x it is Christians from conspiracyland (because the weak are drawn there), who will make those conspiracies fly.
Ha and yes pizzagate is a social media psyop. Yes! Obviously because if you rearrange the letters in their last name and watch episode 119 of TMNT you will all see the light. 9/10x it is Christians from conspiracyland (because the weak are drawn there), who will make those conspiracies fly.
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