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Federal agents foil murderous Jade Helm 15 retaliation plot

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The men had a deadly plot to lure government forces into a trap, federal officials say, and were amassing a stockpile fit for war.

There were Kevlar helmets and body armor, pipe bombs and handmade grenades, large amounts of gunpowder and dozens of rounds of ammunition for a military-grade sniper rifle.

Federal officials say three North Carolina men — Walter Eugene Litteral, 50; Christopher James Barker, 41; and Christopher Todd Campbell, 30 — spent months compiling their cache, much of it purchased through a military surplus store owner who became so concerned about the plot that the person became the FBI’s informant.

The men were arrested Saturday and charged with conspiracy and amassing weaponry allegedly to combat what they believe is the government’s plan to impose martial law through (among other things) the multistate military exercise known as Jade Helm.

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“Lemme tell you something, I gonna have my f——- house rigged up; these motherf—— come try to come in my house, it’s gonna go off,” he said, according to the documents.

The documents indicated that Litteral told another person in a phone conversation: “I got a f—— .45 beside my bed. I got a .45 and a 9-mil in my truck. I’ve got a 9-mil and a .380, or a .380 in her car. Safe full of weapons. You know what? Every time I open up this damn safe, I mean I’ve got, I’ve got at least 30 weapons that I can see and some tucked all the way in the back back.”

The plan involved testing the explosives on land in Shelby, N.C. But the ambush against U.S. forces would take place on Litteral and Campbell’s a 99-acre camp in Clover, S.C.

“According to [Campbell], he and Litteral intend to booby-trap the camp and draw government’s forces into the camp and kill them,” the warrant states.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ed-a-murderous-jade-helm-15-retaliation-plot/
 
Is it against the law to make plans against a non-existent government invasion?
 
I see what you did there.

Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!
 
Is it against the law to make plans against a non-existent government invasion?

Not if you stockpile imaginary weapons.

There are laws against stockpiling real weapons?

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Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!

What people?
 
Read the fucking article (or at least the OP) man!

linked article and OP said:
“According to [Campbell], he and Litteral intend to booby-trap the camp and draw government’s forces into the camp and kill them,”
 
Read the fucking article (or at least the OP) man!

linked article and OP said:
“According to [Campbell], he and Litteral intend to booby-trap the camp and draw government’s forces into the camp and kill them,”

You're saying the government has forces getting ready to raid Clover, SC?
 
Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!

What people?

Law enforcement officials. And it is still a crime to plot a murder of anyone.
 
Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!

What people?

Law enforcement officials. And it is still a crime to plot a murder of anyone.

Invading government troops = law enforcement officers?

That seems a bit Orwellian. Isn't it against the law for federal troops to invade Clover, SC?
 
Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!

What people?

Law enforcement officials. And it is still a crime to plot a murder of anyone.

Invading government troops = law enforcement officers?

That seems a bit Orwellian. Isn't it against the law for federal troops to invade Clover, SC?

What the hell are you talking about?
 
Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!

What people?

Law enforcement officials. And it is still a crime to plot a murder of anyone.

Invading government troops = law enforcement officers?

That seems a bit Orwellian. Isn't it against the law for federal troops to invade Clover, SC?

These boneheads made no distinction about "invading", the quote is about government forces, period, full stop. Stop being obtuse (of course, I know this is an unrealistic expectation).
 
Well, the question mark at the end gives it away.

But I'll ask it this way: suppose a bunch of people were stockpiling weapons and making plans to thwart an invasion of spiders from Mars. Is that a crime?

It is when they make an explicit plan to lure people into an area and kill them, like these guys did. Thanks for playing!

What people?

Law enforcement officials. And it is still a crime to plot a murder of anyone.

Invading government troops = law enforcement officers?

That seems a bit Orwellian. Isn't it against the law for federal troops to invade Clover, SC?

These boneheads made no distinction about "invading", the quote is about government forces, period, full stop. Stop being obtuse (of course, I know this is an unrealistic expectation).

Oh, I thought they were planning to retaliate for the Jade Helm 15 invasion. Not sure how I could have come away thinking that. Maybe the thread title and the OP article.
 
This is a very fine line here. The people involved had the right to buy and store all of the weapons that they want, even if it was done to protect themselves against an imaginary threat. That certainly is crazy but it isn't illegal.
 
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