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Federal judge ruled Trump probably guilty of felonies!

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled on Monday that former President Donald J. Trump and a lawyer who advised him on how to overturn the 2020 election most likely committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States.
The judge’s comments marked a significant breakthrough for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which had laid out in a civil filing the crimes it believed Mr. Trump might have committed as it weighs making a criminal referral to the Justice Department.
“The illegality of the plan was obvious,” wrote Judge David O. Carter of the Central District of California. “Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the vice president to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.”
The Justice Department has been conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the Capitol assault but has given no public indication that it is considering pursuing a criminal case against Mr. Trump. A criminal referral from the House committee could increase pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to do so.
Finally! Will it go anywhere?

 

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I found an article from WaPo that gives more details.

https://wapo.st/3LnZvuE

The 44-page opinion offers a careful analysis of 111 documents the committee wanted, ultimately concluding that lawmakers are entitled to have 101 of them.
But it is less notable for what it might given the committee access to and more for the judge’s analysis of Trump’s conduct leading up to the riot on Jan. 6.
Breaking down the law on each point, Carter, who sits on the Central District of California and was nominated by President Bill Clinton, writes it is “more likely than not” that Trump and Eastman conspired to disrupt the counting of the electoral votes on Jan. 6 — which would be a crime under federal statutes.
“Dr. Eastman and President Trump launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history,” the judge concludes. “Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower — it was a coup in search of a legal theory. The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process.”
You all should be able to read the entire article, although I'm sure this will be in other news sources soon.
 

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled on Monday that former President Donald J. Trump and a lawyer who advised him on how to overturn the 2020 election most likely committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States.
The judge’s comments marked a significant breakthrough for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, which had laid out in a civil filing the crimes it believed Mr. Trump might have committed as it weighs making a criminal referral to the Justice Department.
“The illegality of the plan was obvious,” wrote Judge David O. Carter of the Central District of California. “Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the vice president to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.”
The Justice Department has been conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the Capitol assault but has given no public indication that it is considering pursuing a criminal case against Mr. Trump. A criminal referral from the House committee could increase pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to do so.
Finally! Will it go anywhere?
The other day, Gaetz promised to nominate Trump for Speaker of the House. That might help Garland see he hadn't got 3 more years to make sure hsi case is solid before indicting. And this decision might help show he doesn't need all three years.
 

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I feel like I'm living in the tale of  The Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone can see that Trump is liable for all sorts of criminal charges, but nobody empowered to bring them wants to notice. Now this judge cries out from the crowd that Trump's criminal behavior is nakedly obvious, but he only considers making a criminal referral. He knows that AG Garland is interested in investigating, but not prosecuting. It would be a crap shoot to call a jury that wouldn't turn a blind eye to any crime Donald Trump had committed. Trump may pay a fine here or there, but he is basically above the law when it comes to criminal charges. His wrist has grown calloused from all the slaps on it he has gotten in the past.
 

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I feel like I'm living in the tale of  The Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone can see that Trump is liable for all sorts of criminal charges, but nobody empowered to bring them wants to notice. Now this judge cries out from the crowd that Trump's criminal behavior is nakedly obvious, but he only considers making a criminal referral.
That's more than he'd been asked to do. He reviewed 111 documents for release the panel, and released 102 of them. In addition to that, as the guy that just read all those doc's, he mentioned that it's pretty fucking clear. If he had actually decided, that would be the judicial activision the Right keeps crying about.

He knows that AG Garland is interested in investigating, but not prosecuting.
I htink Garland is very interested in prosecuting, but wants to do anything he can to avoid it being dismissed as politics. Which it will be, anyway.
It would be a crap shoot to call a jury that wouldn't turn a blind eye to any crime Donald Trump had committed.
I dunno. His influence isi waning. His teflon is scratched. There are still a number of people beneath him to be prosecuted, and they tend to work upstream on this. By the time the bring Trump to court, there will be ample evidence, a series of convictions, and I expect a raft of people suddenly trying to distance themselves from his orbit.
I try to imagine my uncle in the jury box. He's not an idiot, for all that he hasn't actually USED that brain to critically examine certain truths he holds dear. He might sit, stunned, in the box, and eventually... turn. from 'Can do no wrong' to 'hang him from the statue of liberty!'
 

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...I try to imagine my uncle in the jury box. He's not an idiot, for all that he hasn't actually USED that brain to critically examine certain truths he holds dear. He might sit, stunned, in the box, and eventually... turn. from 'Can do no wrong' to 'hang him from the statue of liberty!'

A nice fantasy. I've lived long enough to become very cynical about people facing up to reality. Remember "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit!" Long, drawn-out, slow walks to a conviction don't always end well. I think that Garland would prefer to be retired when the jury is chosen.
 

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No one wants to be the first. NYC is hemming and hawing, and now we are getting a probably likely. I wish someone would step up and just put forth criminal charges.
 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department says it is unable to compile a complete and accurate accounting of gifts presented to former President Donald Trump and other U.S. officials by foreign governments during Trump’s final year in office, citing missing data from the White House.

In a report to be published in the Federal Register next week, the department says the Executive Office of the President did not submit information about gifts received by Trump and his family from foreign leaders in 2020. It also says the General Services Administration didn’t submit information about gifts given to former Vice President Mike Pence and White House staffers that year.

The State Department said it sought the missing information from National Archives and Records Administration and the General Services Administration, but was told that “potentially relevant records” are not available because of access restrictions related to retired records.



The State Department’s Office of Protocol reported the situation in footnotes to a partial list of gifts received by U.S. officials in 2020. The office publishes such lists annually in part to guard against potential conflicts of interest. A preview of the 2020 report was posted on the Federal Register website on Friday ahead of its formal publication on Monday.
 
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