Female Privilege Takes a Hit

[Jolly_Penguin]

The battle over Michigan State University’s women-only lounge began with a rival school’s male professor.

Mark Perry, who teaches economics at the University of Michigan’s Flint campus, had stumbled upon a news story about the 91-year-old room in MSU’s sprawling student union. “They’d written about what a great space this is for women,” Perry said. “They can go in and take a nap and not be worried about being bothered.”

He figured it couldn’t be legal. Banning men from a taxpayer-funded study area, Perry thought, could violate Title IX, a federal law meant to protect gender equality on college campuses. So he contacted the school. Nothing changed. He sent a complaint to the Michigan Department of Civil Rights in June, but the department would not accept it because Perry had not personally endured discrimination.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/28/a-male-professor-says-this-women-only-study-lounge-is-sexist-and-illegal/#comments

This is just a blurb from a midwestern state; but the opposition to ending this discrimination is perplexing. If equality doesn't mean equality, what does it mean?

Reminds me of the women only safe train cars story we had here a while back. Apparently women are fragile and vulnerable and need special protection from men, who may assault them, whereas men are men so they shouldn't have any special protection from anybody. So instead of a room with heightened security etc, they simply make it women only, because men are bad. Or something like that.

 

[Angry Floof]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/28/a-male-professor-says-this-women-only-study-lounge-is-sexist-and-illegal/#comments

This is just a blurb from a midwestern state; but the opposition to ending this discrimination is perplexing. If equality doesn't mean equality, what does it mean?

Reminds me of the women only safe train cars story we had here a while back. Apparently women are fragile and vulnerable and need special protection from men, who may assault them, whereas men are men so they shouldn't have any special protection from anybody. So instead of a room with heightened security etc, they simply make it women only, because men are bad. Or something like that.

The New Matriarchy will not spare this one.

 

[Sarpedon]

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is said to be an old building, yes? Guess what, in old public buildings, men's lounges and women's lounges were quite common. I've worked on at least two historic public buildings from that era that had them. The idea that this is the result of modern political correctedness is absurd and stupid. What we have here is an old building that hasn't been updated, and people happen to like it. I wish I had the time to go around searching for ways to feel my ego was being affronted.

 

[laughing dog]

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is said to be an old building, yes? Guess what, in old public buildings, men's lounges and women's lounges were quite common. I've worked on at least two historic public buildings from that era that had them. The idea that this is the result of modern political correctedness is absurd and stupid. What we have here is an old building that hasn't been updated, and people happen to like it. I wish I had the time to go around searching for ways to feel my ego was being affronted.

Yes, these new SJW snowflakes really need to get a life.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

They're like what Bill Maher calls Donald Trump.

 

[Angry Floof]

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is said to be an old building, yes? Guess what, in old public buildings, men's lounges and women's lounges were quite common. I've worked on at least two historic public buildings from that era that had them. The idea that this is the result of modern political correctedness is absurd and stupid. What we have here is an old building that hasn't been updated, and people happen to like it. I wish I had the time to go around searching for ways to feel my ego was being affronted.

Yes, these new SJW snowflakes really need to get a life.

You shall be preserved.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Maybe if some people understood what title IX means, some of this discussion would be on point. Title IX does not prohibit gender-specific facilities. The existence of gender-specific restrooms and locker rooms on campuses are evidence supporting that interpretation. Title IX requires proportionately not equality. For example, if the ratio of women to men in a school is 3 to 2, then the slots available for intercollegiate competition should be close to 3 to 2 in favor of women.

Hence, the existence of a room dedicated to one gender, in and of itself, is evidence of nothing.

The room dedicated to one gender is in a 1:0 ratio. There's no way that's proportional.

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Oh, for heaven's sake. This is said to be an old building, yes? Guess what, in old public buildings, men's lounges and women's lounges were quite common. I've worked on at least two historic public buildings from that era that had them. The idea that this is the result of modern political correctedness is absurd and stupid. What we have here is an old building that hasn't been updated, and people happen to like it. I wish I had the time to go around searching for ways to feel my ego was being affronted.

But is there a men's lounge in it???

 

[laughing dog]

The room dedicated to one gender is in a 1:0 ratio. There's no way that's proportional.

As usual, that missed the point of the existence of a room dedicated to one gender, in and of itself, is evidence of nothing. . The person making the complaint had no idea what the ratio was at the time. He made the complaint based on ignorance not facts.

 

[prideandfall]

The person making the complaint had no idea what the ratio was at the time. He made the complaint based on ignorance not facts.

that pretty much sums up 100% of complaints (and posts) made by all of our resident SJW brigade, so it's not surprising in the least they support this idiocy.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

For those of you that didn't read the article:
#1) The male professor that made the complaint never visited the lounge and was not impacted by it.
#2) The university had decided to turn it into a gender-neutural space before the complaint.

University spokesperson Jason Cody said the timeline is misleading. MSU made plans last spring to turn the lounge into a gender-neutral space to ensure it complied with Title IX, he said. The school had received complaints from male students and worried the lounge’s women-only designation could alienate transgender students. “Thus, we decided on an open lounge for all students, rather than adding a male-only lounge,” Cody wrote in an email.

 

[Toni]

For those of you that didn't read the article:
#1) The male professor that made the complaint never visited the lounge and was not impacted by it.
#2) The university had decided to turn it into a gender-neutural space before the complaint.

University spokesperson Jason Cody said the timeline is misleading. MSU made plans last spring to turn the lounge into a gender-neutral space to ensure it complied with Title IX, he said. The school had received complaints from male students and worried the lounge’s women-only designation could alienate transgender students. “Thus, we decided on an open lounge for all students, rather than adding a male-only lounge,” Cody wrote in an email.

What? You expected us to read the article before weighing in? That's just crazy talk.

 

[Trausti]

For those of you that didn't read the article:
#1) The male professor that made the complaint never visited the lounge and was not impacted by it.
#2) The university had decided to turn it into a gender-neutural space before the complaint.

University spokesperson Jason Cody said the timeline is misleading. MSU made plans last spring to turn the lounge into a gender-neutral space to ensure it complied with Title IX, he said. The school had received complaints from male students and worried the lounge’s women-only designation could alienate transgender students. “Thus, we decided on an open lounge for all students, rather than adding a male-only lounge,” Cody wrote in an email.

And for those who read the rest of the article, there was opposition to the university ending the gender-segregated room. That's what the OP was directed to.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I am surprised that there was no trans angle to this story. If a trans who is genetically male but identifies as female went in, would they be permitted?

 

[Angry Floof]

I am surprised that there was no trans angle to this story. If a trans who is genetically male but identifies as female went in, would they be permitted?

That was one reason they decided to make it gender neutral again, so as not to exclude transgender people.

 

[credoconsolans]

in fact i'd say this sort of thing is the best option, because the alternative is to ban men from hitting on women on campus.basically you can't stop men from being annoying poon hounds,

:laughing-smiley-014:

and it's kind of fucked up to even try, so providing an equitable space where women can get away from it strikes me a step from equality of freedom to lounge or study free of unwanted social pressure.

This. What's "privileged" about having to have a special room to hide to avoid harassment?

 

[laughing dog]

:laughing-smiley-014:

and it's kind of fucked up to even try, so providing an equitable space where women can get away from it strikes me a step from equality of freedom to lounge or study free of unwanted social pressure.

This. What's "privileged" about having to have a special room to hide to avoid harassment?

Doncha know? Men get harassed too.

#menslivesmatter

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Men do get harassed.

 

[credoconsolans]

:laughing-smiley-014:



This. What's "privileged" about having to have a special room to hide to avoid harassment?

Doncha know? Men get harassed too.

#menslivesmatter

Men do get harassed.

IOW "Not All Men".

Right?

 

[Bronzeage]

:laughing-smiley-014:



This. What's "privileged" about having to have a special room to hide to avoid harassment?

Doncha know? Men get harassed too.

#menslivesmatter

Men do get harassed.

Doncha know? Men get harassed too.

#menslivesmatter

Men do get harassed.

IOW "Not All Men".

Right?

Only the more feminine natured men.

 

[Medicine Man]

No matter. The New Matriarchy is well established even though most of you are unaware of it. Things like this are minor spectacles to keep you guys focused on petty bickering while we continue planning and finalizing the list of whose testicles will remain attached. (It's OK, many of you will keep yours, depending on whether you are deemed healthy and desirable for reproduction or just kept intact for our pleasure.)

Enjoy your balls while you can, guys!

.....'Cause the whole world is watching!!!

http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm








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