Female Privilege Takes a Hit

[Angry Floof]

Exactly. Thank you for the acknowledgement. Please report to your nearest adult female for processing.

 

[Derec]

That was one reason they decided to make it gender neutral again, so as not to exclude transgender people.

Yupp. heterosexual cis-males do not matter to that crowd, only PC-preferred groups like minorities, women, LGBTQABCDEFG etc.

 

[Derec]

This. What's "privileged" about having to have a special room to hide to avoid harassment?

The privilege comes from them being able to use all the gender-neutral spaces but then get special "women-only" spaces on top of that.

The so-called "harassment" was male students sometimes engaging them in conversation. Oh the horrors! How can we expect these fragile snowflakes to possibly cope with such "harassment".

It's no different than Muslim women demanding women-only hours at public pools so men would not look at them.

 

[Derec]

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is said to be an old building, yes? Guess what, in old public buildings, men's lounges and women's lounges were quite common. I've worked on at least two historic public buildings from that era that had them. The idea that this is the result of modern political correctedness is absurd and stupid. What we have here is an old building that hasn't been updated, and people happen to like it. I wish I had the time to go around searching for ways to feel my ego was being affronted.

Since there was a women only space but no corresponding men only space your apologetics does not hold water. If "old building" was an actual explanation you would expect it to have both kinds of space.

 

[Angry Floof]

That was one reason they decided to make it gender neutral again, so as not to exclude transgender people.

Yupp. heterosexual cis-males do not matter to that crowd, only PC-preferred groups like minorities, women, LGBTQABCDEFG etc.

So happy to see that you're coming around and accepting reality, Derec! *hug*

However, this does not bear on the decision about your testicles.

 

[Derec]

Yes, these new SJW snowflakes really need to get a life.

Stop trying to make your silly redefinition of "SJW" and "snowflake" happen.

 

[Medicine Man]

This. What's "privileged" about having to have a special room to hide to avoid harassment?

The so-called "harassment" was male students sometimes engaging them in conversation. Oh the horrors!​

You've actually met young-dudes (early-to-mid-20s) who DON'T act like Jr. High School kids??





We're NOT (exactly) talkin'-about guys who'd spent their mid-to-late teens.....wondering what they'll do.....when Sam calls.


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[Jolly_Penguin]

Yes, these new SJW snowflakes really need to get a life.

Stop trying to make your silly redefinition of "SJW" and "snowflake" happen.

<snip>, SJW really SHOULD apply just as much for conservatives as for liberals when they abandon logic and become self righteous and holier than thou about "social justice" shouldn't it? I can see examples of it on both sides.

 

[laughing dog]

Yes, these new SJW snowflakes really need to get a life.

Stop trying to make your silly redefinition of "SJW" and "snowflake" happen.

It is hypersensitive SJW snowflakes like yourself you have tried to change the meaning of SJW into something silly, not me.

 

[Axulus]

The whole "harassment" angle seems bunk. In college, I don't ever remember any guys interrupting any study groups I participated in with women to talk to them. If people are studying, they are almost always left alone.

Furthermore, if one wants to study without any interruption, there is already a perfectly good spot for that: the library.

 

[Toni]

The whole "harassment" angle seems bunk. In college, I don't ever remember any guys interrupting any study groups I participated in with women to talk to them. If people are studying, they are almost always left alone.

Furthermore, if one wants to study without any interruption, there is already a perfectly good spot for that: the library.

I think you haven't been in a university library lately. There is a whole lotta social activity going on there. At least in some of them.

But back in the day, a dedicated asshole did not necessarily find a library much of a deterrent.

 

[Axulus]

The whole "harassment" angle seems bunk. In college, I don't ever remember any guys interrupting any study groups I participated in with women to talk to them. If people are studying, they are almost always left alone.

Furthermore, if one wants to study without any interruption, there is already a perfectly good spot for that: the library.

I think you haven't been in a university library lately. There is a whole lotta social activity going on there. At least in some of them.

But back in the day, a dedicated asshole did not necessarily find a library much of a deterrent.

I'm thinking more along the lines of the reading rooms at university libraries (usually located in a great hall). They are specifically designated as slient rooms. People usually respect that rule in my experience.

And if a guy isn't going to respect the rules, what makes one think he'll respect the "girls only" rule?

Finally, there is social activity going on in other parts of the library, but if one wants to do group study (not possible in the reading room), I don't ever remember witnessing any harassment or interruption of a group study session by guys unless they knew the person and just wanted to say "hello", hardly harassment. Furthermore, if one is really worried about interruptions, there are almost always small rooms one can reserve for a group study. Simply reserve a room and shut the door, you can even invite only girls to your group if you are that worried. The "girl's only" lounge is a solution to a non-existant problem.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

And if a guy isn't going to respect the rules, what makes one think he'll respect the "girls only" rule?

Therefore, we should not have any rules about anything whatsoever, because people won't respect them.

 

[Axulus]

And if a guy isn't going to respect the rules, what makes one think he'll respect the "girls only" rule?

Therefore, we should not have any rules about anything whatsoever, because people won't respect them.

No, you have a "no harassment" rule or you can reserve rooms where no outside interruptions are allowed. This does not mean you create a "girls only, no guys allowed" lounge.

How you twist words plainly written is a special skill set.

 

[Axulus]

The whole "harassment" angle also sounds identical to the argument made by conservative Muslims on why men and women need to be separated in public: for the protection of the women, and how immoral it is for those in the West to "force" women to be around men in public when they may otherwise not want to be.

The far left and conservative Muslims seem to be coming full circle here.

 

[Toni]

The whole "harassment" angle also sounds identical to the argument made by conservative Muslims on why men and women need to be separated in public: for the protection of the women, and how immoral it is for those in the West to "force" women to be around men in public when they may otherwise not want to be.

The far left and conservative Muslims seem to be coming full circle here.

The whole women's lounge thing seems to have risen from a time when there was a men's lounge and a women's lounge. Over the years and renovations, the men's lounge was converted to another use. They simply hadn't gotten around to renovating/repurposing the women's lounge, is my reading. I've lived around universities my entire adult life so this is not surprising nor is it some kind of feminist or sexist conspiracy. Universities have limited funds for various projects and lots of things get left, sometimes due to lack of funding, an ever changing 5 year plan, a sense of tradition, lack of planning..whatever.

As far as someone being able to harass someone in a reading room: well, it's easier to harass/stalk/bother someone when that someone is isolated rather than in a group. In my experience, reading rooms are limited in numbers and there simply are not enough to allow everyone who doesn't wish to be bothered to reserve one.

Do women (and men) get harassed at universities? Sure, they do. In a group study room, it's pretty easy for someone to follow another person into the group study lounge and simply stare at them, follow them outside, and so on. Join groups that the object of their delusion belongs to. And so on.

But a picture or a video is worth a thousand words so while these women are not in college, please allow me:

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Therefore, we should not have any rules about anything whatsoever, because people won't respect them.

No, you have a "no harassment" rule or you can reserve rooms where no outside interruptions are allowed. This does not mean you create a "girls only, no guys allowed" lounge.

How you twist words plainly written is a special skill set.

It's called following an argument's logic to its conclusion, based on the implications of the premises.

 

[Arctish]

Stop trying to make your silly redefinition of "SJW" and "snowflake" happen.

<snip>, SJW really SHOULD apply just as much for conservatives as for liberals when they abandon logic and become self righteous and holier than thou about "social justice" shouldn't it? I can see examples of it on both sides.

Social justice warrior is a term that describes anyone who takes up the fight for social justice, whether they do it logically, emotionally, righteously, or self-righteously, as liberals or conservatives, feminists or Men's Rights Activists. If you fight for social justice, you're a SJW.

The term used to be considered high praise, which makes it extra funny to see some of the most outspoken SJWs here acting like calling them SJWs is character assassination.

 

[thebeave]

I always kind of scratch my head reading these types of threads. On the one hand, men are being told that its harassment to go up to a woman (or women) and engage her in conversation, and its so horrible that women need their own "safe spaces" to escape the constant male attention. Or even just saying "Hi" or "Good morning!" to a random woman walking down the street is often called harassment. On the other hand, we have had several threads in The Lounge where some shy or lonely guy is asking for advice on meeting women, and invariably they are told (by both men and women) to just go up to a woman and introduce yourself and engage them in small talk. And if you get shot down or ignored, just move on to the next woman. Be persistent. It's a numbers game. You may have to introduce yourself to 20 women before you get a single date. Isn't there a bit of a mixed message in all this?

 

[Malintent]

Maybe allocating an additional room for men only would be one solution.

If only this solution came with an actual problem.

The "problem" is equally severe as the women's "problem" of not being able to take a nap in public... or whatever that room is for.
Specifically, there is no place for men to relax on campus and just be themselves with like-minded folks, without feeling the intense stress of the possibility at any moment of a "micro-aggressive" female claiming they were raped by them because of a comment made to a fellow male student regarding a personal relationship or some other thing that men would like to share with each other without being persecuted for their point of view.