Florida Students And facualty Must Register Political Views With State

[Cheerful Charlie]

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-colleges-and-universities/

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The state will require taxpayer-funded colleges and universities to issue surveys to determine "the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented" on campus and whether students, faculty and staff "feel free to express [their] beliefs and viewpoints," although it's not clear what will be done with the poll results, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
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"...a pair of state legislators complained that Florida colleges and universities had become "socialism factories."


WTF?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

One could ask, how is this relevant without a study of similar aged people who didn't go to college?

The study found that younger people are more liberal than older people! They MUST be getting indoctrinated.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Well, finally! Orwell's Thought Police comes to Florida!

 

[Gospel]

Desantis is just playing his part in fooling the rest of the world into thinking Florida is a terrible place so that we can keep it to ourselves.

Go Desantis!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Desantis is just playing his part in fooling the rest of the world into thinking Florida is a terrible place so that we can keep it to ourselves.

Go Desantis!

That is an interesting spin.

Gov. Ron Desantis: Our public colleges in Florida are awful, don't send your children to them!

 

[untermensche]

This has everything to do with younger people voting Democratic and becoming progressive.

 

[Bomb#20]

Here are a couple of less hysterical reports about the new law:

https://cbs12.com/news/local/new-law-creates-intellectual-diversity-requirement-for-florida-colleges

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-re...-staff-about-views-increase-diversity-1603480

There's no indication that "Florida students required to register political views with the state to promote ‘intellectual diversity’". The RawStory reporter appears to have made that up.

 

[laughing dog]

The law, HB233, requires the State Board of Education to create an "objective, non-partisan" survey about whether competing ideas and perspectives are presented in the classroom, and if students feel free to express their beliefs.

"Parents, one of the things they worry about, is if you send a kid to a university will they be indoctrinated or will they actually be taught to think for themselves, challenge assumptions and be critical thinkers and learners?" Gov. DeSantis said at the bill signing. "We want our universities to be focused on critical thinking, academic rigor. We do not want them as hot beds for stale ideology. That's not worth tax dollars and it's not something we will be supporting going forward."

The law states the results of these surveys of Florida state universities will be published but does not detail how they will be used.

Source https://cbs12.com/news/local/new-law-creates-intellectual-diversity-requirement-for-florida-colleges

So a non-partisan survey (who creates it and who decides whether it is not partisan) with information about the state of "intellectual diversity" (who decides that?) will be published for anyone to see, but there is no mandate on how (if at all) the survey will be used.

Seems like the state of FloriDUH is trying to live up to its name.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Here are a couple of less hysterical reports about the new law:

https://cbs12.com/news/local/new-law-creates-intellectual-diversity-requirement-for-florida-colleges

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-re...-staff-about-views-increase-diversity-1603480

There's no indication that "Florida students required to register political views with the state to promote ‘intellectual diversity’". The RawStory reporter appears to have made that up.

Yago Cecchini, Chair of the FAU College Republicans, says conservative students across the country feel like their viewpoints are not always accepted.

Wow, what a bunch of crybabies.

 

[Copernicus]

DeSantis implied that this bill could be used to punish universities that were judged not to live up to his or the legislature's standards of academic fairness, but it is likely just going to be an expensive bureaucratic exercise that wastes everyone's time. It plays to a conservative perception that their side of the ideological divide is being suppressed and discriminated against in academia, although they don't shy away from trying to suppress any examination of subjects such as "Critical Race Theory". So it just looks like another attempt by politicians to meddle in course content that they know nothing about. In the end, this law will be more of an annoyance than a serious threat to universities, because the surveys will not identify individuals who respond to them. If the "non-partisan" requirement is taken seriously, it is hard to see how it could be used to punish university budgets, since the questions would be framed so as not to address political ideologies.

 

[barbos]

"...a pair of state legislators complained that Florida colleges and universities had become "socialism factories."

And state legislature in Florida became a factory of insurrection and dumbassery.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-colleges-and-universities/

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The state will require taxpayer-funded colleges and universities to issue surveys to determine "the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented" on campus and whether students, faculty and staff "feel free to express [their] beliefs and viewpoints," although it's not clear what will be done with the poll results, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
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"...a pair of state legislators complained that Florida colleges and universities had become "socialism factories."


WTF?

WTF for the article writer.

The headline says they are required to register. The article only says the schools need to survey. Big difference.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-colleges-and-universities/

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The state will require taxpayer-funded colleges and universities to issue surveys to determine "the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented" on campus and whether students, faculty and staff "feel free to express [their] beliefs and viewpoints," although it's not clear what will be done with the poll results, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
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"...a pair of state legislators complained that Florida colleges and universities had become "socialism factories."


WTF?

WTF for the article writer.

The headline says they are required to register. The article only says the schools need to survey. Big difference.

Typically, yes, but is the survey truly private? A survey you take where the govt tracks you is a de facto registration. That said, my usual modus operandus for Raw Story articles is to look for corroborating sources.

 

[Jarhyn]

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-colleges-and-universities/

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The state will require taxpayer-funded colleges and universities to issue surveys to determine "the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented" on campus and whether students, faculty and staff "feel free to express [their] beliefs and viewpoints," although it's not clear what will be done with the poll results, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
...
"...a pair of state legislators complained that Florida colleges and universities had become "socialism factories."


WTF?

WTF for the article writer.

The headline says they are required to register. The article only says the schools need to survey. Big difference.

Typically, yes, but is the survey truly private? A survey you take where the govt tracks you is a de facto registration. That said, my usual modus operandus for Raw Story articles is to look for corroborating sources.

Yeah, like at some point in this, especially in a backwater like Florida, it is almost certain that someone is going to see these "surveys". I would refuse any such survey and tell the person asking me to fill it out that they are kindly invited to, sooner than hand me such garbage, to insert such shit back into the anus it came from. If it is a requirement to become "educated" there, I will go somewhere else. Sorry Gospel, I'll miss you when we dig the canal, and put up the sea mine wall.

 

[Metaphor]

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-colleges-and-universities/

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The state will require taxpayer-funded colleges and universities to issue surveys to determine "the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented" on campus and whether students, faculty and staff "feel free to express [their] beliefs and viewpoints," although it's not clear what will be done with the poll results, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
...
"...a pair of state legislators complained that Florida colleges and universities had become "socialism factories."


WTF?

WTF for the article writer.

The headline says they are required to register. The article only says the schools need to survey. Big difference.

Typically, yes, but is the survey truly private? A survey you take where the govt tracks you is a de facto registration. That said, my usual modus operandus for Raw Story articles is to look for corroborating sources.

The headline of the story appears to be conjured from whole cloth. Rawstory appears to have based its idea that the survey is "registration" on the idea that the survey is "not required to be filed anonymously" (itself a conclusion based presumably on the absence of a positive direction that surveys must be anonymous in the text of the bill).

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

More shoes dropping

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/desantis-defund-universities-that-promote-indoctrination

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Florida state colleges and universities that show signs of “indoctrination” may be defunded, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said on Tuesday, as he and others on the right crusade against what conservatives have decided to call “Critical Race Theory.”
DeSantis said that he was trying to stop the state’s colleges and universities from becoming “hotbeds for stale ideology.”

“That’s not worth tax dollars, and that’s not something that we’re going to be supporting going forward,” he added at a press conference held at a middle school in Fort Myers, Florida.
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“We do not want a curriculum that is judging students based on their race,” DeSantis said, adding that he had also banned the “1619 Project,” apparently referring to a 2019 New York Times magazine issue which positioned the history of slavery and experience of African-Americans as central to the country’s history.
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Orwellian memory hole coming right up, courtesy of DeSantis and the GOP.

 

[marc]

They spend years telling people that Universities will brainwash their kids into becoming liberals, convincing who knows how many people to either skip higher education or go to a crappy 'christian' college. They do this survey, and guess what, conservatives will be a minority, and have been conditioned to view any disagreement or criticism of their views as oppression. They will claim the survey 'proves' how conservative views are discriminated against, just like how Ben Stein showed the education system suppresses the scientific evidence for creationism.

 

[Jarhyn]

They spend years telling people that Universities will brainwash their kids into becoming liberals, convincing who knows how many people to either skip higher education or go to a crappy 'christian' college. They do this survey, and guess what, conservatives will be a minority, and have been conditioned to view any disagreement or criticism of their views as oppression. They will claim the survey 'proves' how conservative views are discriminated against, just like how Ben Stein showed the education system suppresses the scientific evidence for creationism.

Kind of like how those who lack mental faculties see major discrimination at most universities.

Oh, wait, you already said that.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Florida universities are not “socialism factories “; they are “party schools”.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

DeSantis has thoughts of running for president in 2024. Creeping chaos from the lowest GOP pits of hell.