Flynn Resigns - Impeachment proceedings begin

[Malintent]

According to http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/michael-flynn-white-house-national-security-adviser/

Reps. John Conyers, Jr., top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, and Elijah Cummings, top Democrat on the House oversight Committee -- sent a request for a "full classified briefing" on the circumstances surrounding Flynn to the Justice Department and FBI Monday night following Flynn's resignation

We in Congress need to know who authorized his actions, permitted them and continued to let him have access to our most sensitive national security information despite knowing these risks. We need to know who else within the White House is a current and ongoing risk to our national security

That sounds to me like the beginnings of what will be the initiation of impeachment proceedings.

I mean, who do you THINK this "risk to national security" is?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, the beginnings of the impeachment proceedings will need to wait two years, provided that the Dems win control of the House in the next election. Longer if they don't. The Republicans only concerns about national security involve whether or not the old lady in a hijab is going to blow somebody up while she heads out to the store.

 

[untermensche]

Using the Russians to spy on your opponent makes you their bitch.

This is treasonous.

 

[laughing dog]

Well, the beginnings of the impeachment proceedings will need to wait two years, provided that the Dems win control of the House in the next election. Longer if they don't. The Republicans only concerns about national security involve whether or not the old lady in a hijab is going to blow somebody up while she heads out to the store.

Don't be so sure about that - Trump is not terribly popular with a large portion of the Republican establishment and base.

 

[untermensche]

Well, the beginnings of the impeachment proceedings will need to wait two years, provided that the Dems win control of the House in the next election. Longer if they don't. The Republicans only concerns about national security involve whether or not the old lady in a hijab is going to blow somebody up while she heads out to the store.

Don't be so sure about that - Trump is not terribly popular with a large portion of the Republican establishment and base.

The problem is impeaching him would hurt the Republican "brand".

And these people put party over nation time and time again.

It won't even begin to happen with a Republican Congress.

 

[zorq]

Don't be so sure about that - Trump is not terribly popular with a large portion of the Republican establishment and base.

The problem is impeaching him would hurt the Republican "brand".

And these people put party over nation time and time again.

It won't even begin to happen with a Republican Congress.

Agreed. While a lot of Republican Congressional support for Trump is reluctant at best, they all have too much invested in him already and the Trump enthusiasts (a huge chunk of their voting block) remain blinded by right wing media. So their hands are tied.

 

[blastula]

Blastula J. Grump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of nominees entering this administration until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

 

[Horatio Parker]

RoguePOTUSStaff sez Flynn's replacement will be another conduit to Putin.

Also that was why Yates was fired. And that Trump was bypassed; Ryan and Pence made Flynn resign.

And, on lighter note:

The good news for POTUS is that accepting Flynn's sudden resg gave him leverage to negotiate the return of his phone. Such a deal maker

YMMV.

 

[blastula]

House Dems having a great time today with this layup drill while Republicans are letting their pit stains show.

 

[bleubird]

Trumps actions still have not come close to crimes that could lead to impeachment.And,congress does that.So,it will not even be possible until the 2018 elections.

 

[untermensche]

Trumps actions still have not come close to crimes that could lead to impeachment.And,congress does that.So,it will not even be possible until the 2018 elections.

We don't know what Trump's actions were.

This is something real to investigate.

If Trump was taking information from the Russians about his opponents he made himself an actor in Russian interference in the election.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Don't be so sure about that - Trump is not terribly popular with a large portion of the Republican establishment and base.

The problem is impeaching him would hurt the Republican "brand".

And these people put party over nation time and time again.

It won't even begin to happen with a Republican Congress.

The Republican bitch is sportin' a Trump stamp, and who doesn't regret one of those? The fewer days in office, the fewer bad memories to linger. And, consider, Dems don't have to engage in the usual political pissing match the public is oh so used to. They can start using the T word. Treason will bend the public ear.

Or maybe it's just wishful delusions on my part.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Don't be so sure about that - Trump is not terribly popular with a large portion of the Republican establishment and base.

The problem is impeaching him would hurt the Republican "brand".

And these people put party over nation time and time again.

It won't even begin to happen with a Republican Congress.

They've already jumped out of the plane with him, they're not about to cut the parachute cords just to get away from him.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Trumps actions still have not come close to crimes that could lead to impeachment.And,congress does that.So,it will not even be possible until the 2018 elections.

We don't know what Trump's actions were.

This is something real to investigate.

If Trump was taking information from the Russians about his opponents he made himself an actor in Russian interference in the election.

According to Kellyanne Conway, Trump had full confidence in Flynn right up to his resignation despite knowing that he had quite likely been involved in illegal conversations with the Russians and despite being told a month ago by the Justice Department that Flynn could be susceptible to blackmail by the Russians. He kept him in the position of *National Security Advisor*. Let that sink in...

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Also, can we bring up the fact that the guy who got hired as National Security Advisor was apparently unaware that the people who would be working for him record calls between US officials like him and foreign governments? That would seem like a fairly basic piece of information that someone who's qualified for that position should have already known.

 

[Malintent]

People are showing up at their local town halls, warning their Republican representatives that they will not get reelected if they act as a Trump puppet.

 

[Malintent]

Trumps actions still have not come close to crimes that could lead to impeachment.And,congress does that.So,it will not even be possible until the 2018 elections.

Many are disagreeing with this... most recently, we had two repug Senators break ranks over the Education nominee. Fox news today is farther left than I have ever seen it.. I don't think the Republican party has a chance in hell of not being completely divided and gimped out of majority.

 

[Elixir]

Also, can we bring up the fact that the guy who got hired as National Security Advisor was apparently unaware that the people who would be working for him record calls between US officials like him and foreign governments? That would seem like a fairly basic piece of information that someone who's qualified for that position should have already known.

That's why it's a virtual certainty that Cheato put him up to it. Or else!

 

[Malintent]

The problem is impeaching him would hurt the Republican "brand".

And these people put party over nation time and time again.

It won't even begin to happen with a Republican Congress.

They've already jumped out of the plane with him, they're not about to cut the parachute cords just to get away from him.

I disagree... It's more like they are considering releasing his harness, while remaining under the canopy of their base's wishes. What representative is going to think, "gee, he has a 30% approval rating.. what percentage do I need to get myself reelected again?"

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I disagree... It's more like they are considering releasing his harness, while remaining under the canopy of their base's wishes. What representative is going to think, "gee, he has a 30% approval rating.. what percentage do I need to get myself reelected again?"

But that 30% votes heavily in Republican primaries. Trump's supporters have a gun to the GOP's head, so it doesn't matter what the establishment part of their base wants. Going against Trump means that they lose in the primary when another candidate is selected to replace them or they lose in the general when the Trump faction stays home and gives their job to a Democrat.