Generic comic book thread

[Underseer]

I didn't have a good place to drop this image, so, uh, generic comic book thread!



I never read this particular comic book, but that is the single coolest superhero costume in all of comic books.

 

[Jayjay]

I think Garfield is pretty generic.

 

[KeepTalking]

Well, the picture and comment are pretty specific. Garfield would contend that he is far from generic.

I haven't read any Spider Gwen, either, but it is interesting that Gwen Stacey has become so popular as a character recently. She is also Gwenpool, who I have seen pop up in a few other Marvel titles I read. I am not sure how her new found comic book celebrity status came about.

 

[Jayjay]

Well, the picture and comment are pretty specific. Garfield would contend that he is far from generic.

I haven't read any Spider Gwen, either, but it is interesting that Gwen Stacey has become so popular as a character recently. She is also Gwenpool, who I have seen pop up in a few other Marvel titles I read. I am not sure how her new found comic book celebrity status came about.

Actually, Gwenpool is "Gwen Poole" from altenate reality, not the Gwen Stacy from Spider-Man. As for her celebrity status, it was from Marvel's gimmick where they put Gwen Stacy on cover of every one of their comics for one month, and the one for "Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars" struck a chord with the fans:

 

[Underseer]

I'm reading the Ta-Nehisi Coates run on Black Panther right now. Not sure why people complain about it. I especially enjoy the Midnight Angels subplot. T'Challa's stepmother Ramonda accidentally caused a pro-democracy rebellion by being too hidebound and too fixated on the letter of the law.

 

[KeepTalking]

I'm reading the Ta-Nehisi Coates run on Black Panther right now. Not sure why people complain about it. I especially enjoy the Midnight Angels subplot. T'Challa's stepmother Ramonda accidentally caused a pro-democracy rebellion by being too hidebound and too fixated on the letter of the law.

Well, you just can't have a black author, who had previously written books about black identity, writing a comic book about a black superhero who is about to be the star of his own major movie that a bunch of white people are about to go see. They might pick up that comic book and damage their fragile egos. Coates has done a great job with Black Panther, as any objective comic book fan or critic will tell you. I just dropped it from my pull list this month, with it starting a new arc for Marvel Legacy, as I wanted to check out some of the other Legacy titles for characters I have paid much attention to recently.

@Jayjay, thanks for the explanation on Gwenpool, but I would contend that alt-universe Gwen Stacey going around calling herself Gwen Poole is not much of a difference from her actually being Gwen Stacey. Of course they had to spin up a new universe to spawn her from, since they had already turned her into Spider Gwen.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I just read the Red Son Superman comic. The basic premise behind it is that Superman's spaceship crashes in the Soviet Union instead of Kansas and he grows up to become a devoted communist and Stalin's henchman. Then Lex Luthor is the good guy who's married to Lois Lane and fights for America against him.

It's a pretty cool twist and an interesting take on various DC characters in that environment. Well worth reading.

 

[Underseer]

I'm reading the Ta-Nehisi Coates run on Black Panther right now. Not sure why people complain about it. I especially enjoy the Midnight Angels subplot. T'Challa's stepmother Ramonda accidentally caused a pro-democracy rebellion by being too hidebound and too fixated on the letter of the law.

Well, you just can't have a black author, who had previously written books about black identity, writing a comic book about a black superhero who is about to be the star of his own major movie that a bunch of white people are about to go see. They might pick up that comic book and damage their fragile egos. Coates has done a great job with Black Panther, as any objective comic book fan or critic will tell you. I just dropped it from my pull list this month, with it starting a new arc for Marvel Legacy, as I wanted to check out some of the other Legacy titles for characters I have paid much attention to recently.

@Jayjay, thanks for the explanation on Gwenpool, but I would contend that alt-universe Gwen Stacey going around calling herself Gwen Poole is not much of a difference from her actually being Gwen Stacey. Of course they had to spin up a new universe to spawn her from, since they had already turned her into Spider Gwen.

Ordinarily, I might agree with you, but a lot of the criticisms lament that the Coates run is not like the Priest run. Honestly, I think people are being pissy because he's from outside the comic book industry (as if the Joss Whedon run on the X-Men didn't kick all kinds of ass).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Priest_(comics)

I'll be honest, I haven't read any of the Priest run, but I hope to get around to it. Priest introduced the Everett Ross character and the Dora Milaje.

 

[Underseer]

I just read the Red Son Superman comic. The basic premise behind it is that Superman's spaceship crashes in the Soviet Union instead of Kansas and he grows up to become a devoted communist and Stalin's henchman. Then Lex Luthor is the good guy who's married to Lois Lane and fights for America against him.

It's a pretty cool twist and an interesting take on various DC characters in that environment. Well worth reading.

Marvel tried to do a parody/satire of the Justice League (Squadron Supreme), but frankly DC did a better and more vicious satire of the Justice League in the Justice Lords storyline. Not surprising that Red Son would be a better critical examination of Superman than Hyperion.

 

[ZiprHead]

Any of you comic book nerds see the latest Star Talk? Kevin Smith was the interview guest.

 

[Underseer]

Any of you comic book nerds see the latest Star Talk? Kevin Smith was the interview guest.

Not sure I can watch Neil deGrasse Tyson right now until those allegations are settled.

He is technically a comic book character, though. He's been depicted in DC comics.

 

[Underseer]

The mod-era Wonder Woman was horrible. Never ask a libertarian writer to make a female character more feminist. Someone should have known that was a bad idea.

 

[OLDMAN]

The saddest part of the New Wonder Women movie is the portrait of a first world war German chemist named Clara Immerwahr. Although not mentioned by name in the movie, she should be a heroic world figure.
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url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Immerwahr[/url]
Clara Immerwahr (21 June 1870 – 2 May 1915) was a German chemist of Jewish descent. She was the first woman to be awarded a doctorate in chemistry in Germany, and is credited with being a pacifist as well as a women's rights activist. From 1901 until her suicide in 1915, she was married to the Nobel Prize-winning chemist ...


That noble prize winning chemist was the inventor of chlorine gas, which Clara was opposed to, she shot herself with her husband's service revolver on the night of a celebration party after it was first used in Ypres.
The wonder women movie ignores what should be a heroic stand on pacifist grounds.

 

[Underseer]

The saddest part of the New Wonder Women movie is the portrait of a first world war German chemist named Clara Immerwahr. Although not mentioned by name in the movie, she should be a heroic world figure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Immerwahr
Clara Immerwahr (21 June 1870 – 2 May 1915) was a German chemist of Jewish descent. She was the first woman to be awarded a doctorate in chemistry in Germany, and is credited with being a pacifist as well as a women's rights activist. From 1901 until her suicide in 1915, she was married to the Nobel Prize-winning chemist ...


That noble prize winning chemist was the inventor of chlorine gas, which Clara was opposed to, she shot herself with her husband's service revolver on the night of a celebration party after it was first used in Ypres.
The wonder women movie ignores what should be a heroic stand on pacifist grounds.

Did they really use a real woman's name for an established comic book villain?

 

[Jayjay]

The saddest part of the New Wonder Women movie is the portrait of a first world war German chemist named Clara Immerwahr. Although not mentioned by name in the movie, she should be a heroic world figure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Immerwahr
Clara Immerwahr (21 June 1870 – 2 May 1915) was a German chemist of Jewish descent. She was the first woman to be awarded a doctorate in chemistry in Germany, and is credited with being a pacifist as well as a women's rights activist. From 1901 until her suicide in 1915, she was married to the Nobel Prize-winning chemist ...


That noble prize winning chemist was the inventor of chlorine gas, which Clara was opposed to, she shot herself with her husband's service revolver on the night of a celebration party after it was first used in Ypres.
The wonder women movie ignores what should be a heroic stand on pacifist grounds.

Did they really use a real woman's name for an established comic book villain?

No. According to wikipedia the character's name is Isabel Maru. Connection to any real person looks coincidental to me.

 

[Underseer]

Did they really use a real woman's name for an established comic book villain?

No. According to wikipedia the character's name is Isabel Maru. Connection to any real person looks coincidental to me.

I thought so. Dr Poison is an established supervillain, and since Wonder Woman was created after WW1, that connection would have been bizarre.

 

[OLDMAN]

No, sorry. Didn't mean to give the impression they based the supervillain on her. But by the time Hollywood gets done with it, seems really unfair. Also it should be noted that her husband foolishly thought poison gases as a weapon would save lives by shortening the war. World War 1 seemed like a war that just had to be started for no reason and fought as though there was one.

 

[Underseer]

No, sorry. Didn't mean to give the impression they based the supervillain on her. But by the time Hollywood gets done with it, seems really unfair. Also it should be noted that her husband foolishly thought poison gases as a weapon would save lives by shortening the war. World War 1 seemed like a war that just had to be started for no reason and fought as though there was one.

More than that is the tragic details of how that war started. Put that all together, and it's ideal for a Wonder Woman versus Ares story.

Ares would have needed only a few Tony nudges in the right places to create two world wars and enormous human suffering.

 

[Underseer]

Alright, this is technically about a comic book movie rather than a comic book, but none of the other threads seemed a good place for this one.



Some fans complained that the recent Spider-Man movie did not include the famous line about per and responsibility. This video argues that the phrase is still present, but as a theme instead of a line.

 

[Underseer]

What Kamala Khan tells us about parasocial relationships.