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Genesis 1

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1An All-Human person created the heavens and the earth --
2the earth was barren and cratered and darkness was upon the face of the craters and the Spirit of All-Human bore up upon the face of the waters
 

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According to the Oxford Bible Commentary there is no clear interpretation for the creation story.

It could also mean out of chaos god brought order. A more culturally meaningful interpretation.
 

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The earth was 'without form and void' suggest there was no planet to begin with. A contradiction because if it is 'without form and void' it cannot be called ''the earth."
 

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The problem according to the commentary there is no direct translation for the earliest known words. Translations of translations ending up in English.

Did Jesus really say 'thee and thou' speaking in old English? Or did he speak in the common vernacular?

Without form could simply mean social structure.
 

Jimmy Higgins

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The problem according to the commentary there is no direct translation for the earliest known words. Translations of translations ending up in English.

Did Jesus really say 'thee and thou' speaking in old English? Or did he speak in the common vernacular?

Without form could simply mean social structure.
We can interpret several things, especially if we don't over think what people knew back then. There was a chaotic mix of water. Bubble formed to create the sky and boundary for what is where we live. There is no universe here. The authors don't understand we are spec in a cosmos larger than imagination can provide. So their narrative thinks that during creation, the only place is here.

What we can't interpret is whether this bubbling mess always existed and god transformed it or whether it is saying god created the mess and then made it better for us. We just know from the scripture is that it was transformed into a flat earth.

What we also know is that this story is lifted poetically from the Gilgamesh Epic. So what the Hebrews thought isn't as important as what the Babylonians thought when writing that.
 

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OMG!!! The bible is talking about the Bug Bang!!!

The BB proves the bible!!!!
 
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