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Good News - Houston Liberals Checked in Bid to Seize Churches

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http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/1...-domain-threats-against-churches/#more-148366

Houston's lesbian Mayor and her left of center supporters, (and local crony capitalists of the Trump mold) are not having a good week. Aside from the voter rejection of the discrimination ordinance, they have given up the attempt to seize two churches that sit on increasingly valuable land.

The city of Houston is no longer threatening to seize two decades-old fifth ward churches via eminent domain.

From our August report:

Two churches nestled in what used to be one of Houston’s roughest neighborhoods are fighting back against the city. The Latter Day Deliverance Revival Center was established in the fifth ward in 1965 by Bishop Roy Lee Kossie. A few years later, Pastor Quinton Smith began pastoring at the Christian Fellowship Missionary Baptist Church, also in the fifth ward.

Both churches have grown and have had a positive impact on their community in each year since their establishment. Building a youth ministry center, a church-run food bank, and creating outreach programs for gang members, drug addicts, and alcoholics, the churches continue their work to transform the fifth ward.

“When we moved in to this area, it was considered the highest crime rate area in the city of Houston. People shot first and asked questions later. But we loved these people. We loved this community. We knew this was exactly where we needed to be,” said Kossie.

The fifth ward is located just outside of downtown. Property values in the area have skyrocketed and continue to climb. The City of Houston offered to purchase the churches. When the churches refused, the city came back with threats of using eminent domain to acquire the property as part of an urban development plan.

That “urban development plan” called for using the land to build a library and 63 units of public ...

Facing mounting legal opposition from the Liberty Institute, the City surrendered.
 
How is this a liberal thing?

It's evil and therefore liberal. Note how the mayor's sexual orientation, while irrelevant to the topic, was mentioned in the first sentence. That indicates it's importance to let everyone know that she's one of the freaky queers who's trying to undermine everything that's good and decent about society.
 
The whole issue would likely be solved if the church had to pay property taxes like everybody else. Churches tend to sit on property far more valuable than their financial means due to their unconscionable tax exemptions. If they had to pay their fair share of taxes, they'd have to relocate to a more modest location.
 
The whole issue would likely be solved if the church had to pay property taxes like everybody else. Churches tend to sit on property far more valuable than their financial means due to their unconscionable tax exemptions. If they had to pay their fair share of taxes, they'd have to relocate to a more modest location.

Yeah! ...and that makes it liberal because liberals are known to hate freedom of religion./conservolibertarianassholefuckoffshitheadpussie
 
How is this a liberal thing?

The concept of urban renewal, model cities, and other projects to "improve" society by ignoring property rights is "liberal". It is the assumption that property rights are trumped by "social needs" and do-gooder bromides.
 
The concept of urban renewal, model cities, and other projects to "improve" society by ignoring property rights is "liberal". It is the assumption that property rights are trumped by "social needs" and do-gooder bromides.
Property rights are important but churches should enjoy the same rights as other property owners, no more. If a regular property owner owes property taxes, churches should too. If a regular property owners is subject to eminent domain for public projects, churches should be just as subject to it.
 
Interesting that I am finding no news on this project on non-right-wing alarmist sources that are not circularly referencing each other.

Make me wonder what this really is all about?
 
ETA: Okay, found a more reasonable source. Looks like the city wanted to build housing units and condemn a parking lot (not the church(es)), but backed down when considering the legal fees and instead are going with another site and plan to condemn 30 housing units to move forward with the project. This is a big win for freedom of religion and smaller government.
 
American fascists (those on the right) are a strange bunch.

They love this insane highly destructive religion, Christianity, GW Bush invaded Iraq because his Christian god told him to after all, but hate other destructive religions like Islam.

They are not only deluded, destructive, and discriminatory, but the American right lacks any semblance of a consistent position on anything.
 
Damn lesbian librals….

http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/2014/05/atlantic_city_eminent_domain.html
New Jersey’s Casino Reinvestment Development Authority has targeted the property as part of a redevelopment project slated for an area near the Revel Casino Hotel and plans to take it through eminent domain. Birnbaum’s lawyers contested the move today before a Superior Court in Atlantic County, calling the state agency’s condemnation proceedings unlawful.

http://amarillo.com/news/2015-10-20/some-farmers-west-texas-raise-concerns-about-pipeline
Under Texas law, gas pipelines are entitled to exercise eminent domain authority.

Grijalva said landowners are frustrated because there is nothing they can do to stop these companies from going through their properties.

"We weren't able to stop these people, ONEOK. Now, they are saying they are paying for the loss of crops. But that was not the issue. We were not interested in their money at all. It was just the fact that they came through with no opposition really. We couldn't do anything," Grijalva said.

"Eminent domain — I always thought was meant to be for the good of the people, for the benefit of the people. In this case, the only thing it's for is the greed of the company.

Yeah, the use/abuse of eminent domain has nothing to do with power, greed, and moneyed interests….and Shirley has something to do with liking the taste of Cherry Chapstick
 
These are the things that happen when you do not accept the draconian terms and lowball offers of corporate developers when two parties come to a mutual beneficial agreement.
 
How is this a liberal thing?

The concept of urban renewal, model cities, and other projects to "improve" society by ignoring property rights is "liberal". It is the assumption that property rights are trumped by "social needs" and do-gooder bromides.
I could stick fracking and conservative in there and it'd be just as true.
Politicians will be politicians.
 
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