Grindr says no to "No fatties, no femmes, no Asians": when gay sex apps go woke.

[ideologyhunter]

There are other ways to say it than 'No Fatties'. Trump turned down a would-be groupie in New Hampshire with 'That guy has a weight problem! Go home, start exercising!' He obviously could have said, 'You expect a blumpkin tonight? Start by looking like Jared.' Let's show some class, folks.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

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[dismal]

There are other ways to say it than 'No Fatties'. Trump turned down a would-be groupie in New Hampshire with 'That guy has a weight problem! Go home, start exercising!' He obviously could have said, 'You expect a blumpkin tonight? Start by looking like Jared.' Let's show some class, folks.

Sure, you could argue that the language is crude (though I don't think "Asians" really qualifies as crude language.)

But there are clearly people here arguing these people's sexual preferences are unacceptably wrong.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

What I find funny about the "no fatties" thing is that women these days say things like "Don't fat shame me! I'm proud of my body!" Then they see a fat man and say, "I'm not going out with a fatty who doesn't care about himself! I want a nice buff man!"

This thread and this app are about gay men finding gay men. You're way off topic.

 

[Metaphor]

Very funny.

But you understand my point, right????

They want to be allowed to make fun of fat men, but don't want men making fun of fat women. Hypocrisy.

It's significantly worse than that.

Fat activists (always women, men are not deluded enough to think "real men have curves"), in all their fat activism videos, show themselves with extremely handsome, shirtless gymboys. Fat women don't think fat men are sexually attractive, and they'll always choose a onechin over a fattie.

You're lying out your teeth, I see. Either that or absolutely shit-pig ignorant of both bear culture and the popularity of "dad bod".

Jarhyn, you yourself described Trump's body as something like 'a rancid sack of pig shit' - or words to that effect.

First of all, I said 'fat women don't find fat men attractive'. Bear culture is not a straight thing. Women don't refer to mildly overweight men with body hair as 'bears' (except fag hags). Oy gevalt.

Second, the existence of different subcultures in gay life does not invalidate anything I've said but only reinforces it. Pretty muscle twinks pre-emptively block people on Grindr because they receive hundreds of unwanted requests for sex (I'm not one but I know them). Mainstream gay porn is basically 99% gym fit muscle marys having sex. That porn is mainstream because that's what men seek out and like to look at.

Are you confusing gay men for lesbians? It is gay male culture that has a premium on fit bodies. Yes, "bears" hook up with each other all the time, and some have been so inculcated in bear circles that they say, and may actually prefer, other bears. But you are delusional if you think gym-fit bodies are not easily the most preferred type among gay men, even if you claim it's not your preferred type.

 

[Jarhyn]

You're lying out your teeth, I see. Either that or absolutely shit-pig ignorant of both bear culture and the popularity of "dad bod".

Jarhyn, you yourself described Trump's body as something like 'a rancid sack of pig shit' - or words to that effect.

First of all, I said 'fat women don't find fat men attractive'. Bear culture is not a straight thing. Women don't refer to mildly overweight men with body hair as 'bears' (except fag hags). Oy gevalt.

Second, the existence of different subcultures in gay life does not invalidate anything I've said but only reinforces it. Pretty muscle twinks pre-emptively block people on Grindr because they receive hundreds of unwanted requests for sex (I'm not one but I know them). Mainstream gay porn is basically 99% gym fit muscle marys having sex. That porn is mainstream because that's what men seek out and like to look at.

Are you confusing gay men for lesbians? It is gay male culture that has a premium on fit bodies. Yes, "bears" hook up with each other all the time, and some have been so inculcated in bear circles that they say, and may actually prefer, other bears. But you are delusional if you think gym-fit bodies are not easily the most preferred type among gay men, even if you claim it's not your preferred type.

Are you seriously Straight-splaining to a gay man what gay men like?

We are talking about GRINDr, not TINDr.

Most of us can deal without the fat-shaming fuckwads.

I know a number of fat women who enjoy fat men, too. Not every feeder/eater is one-or-the-other.

Besides, we're talking about gay men here. Alienating a core component of the day community (bears) is a bad move.

 

[Metaphor]

Are you seriously Straight-splaining to a gay man what gay men like?

Honey, any six year old boy who twirled in the park recreating the helicopter shot from "The Sound of Music", or who got up at 6 a.m. on Saturday to watch Madonna's "Open Your Heart", or who reacted to the young William Katt's shirtless scenes in "Baby, Secret of the Lost Legend" the way I did, does not have straightness in his future.

Besides, we're talking about gay men here. Alienating a core component of the day community (bears) is a bad move.

You're not talking about gay men. You're talking about yourself and your own preferences. You haven't addressed a single thing I've said because you can't.

Very overweight men are not popular in the gay community. They can be very popular among the much less than 1% of gay or bisexual men specifically attracted to chubs.

 

[dismal]

You're lying out your teeth, I see. Either that or absolutely shit-pig ignorant of both bear culture and the popularity of "dad bod".

Jarhyn, you yourself described Trump's body as something like 'a rancid sack of pig shit' - or words to that effect.

First of all, I said 'fat women don't find fat men attractive'. Bear culture is not a straight thing. Women don't refer to mildly overweight men with body hair as 'bears' (except fag hags). Oy gevalt.

Second, the existence of different subcultures in gay life does not invalidate anything I've said but only reinforces it. Pretty muscle twinks pre-emptively block people on Grindr because they receive hundreds of unwanted requests for sex (I'm not one but I know them). Mainstream gay porn is basically 99% gym fit muscle marys having sex. That porn is mainstream because that's what men seek out and like to look at.

Are you confusing gay men for lesbians? It is gay male culture that has a premium on fit bodies. Yes, "bears" hook up with each other all the time, and some have been so inculcated in bear circles that they say, and may actually prefer, other bears. But you are delusional if you think gym-fit bodies are not easily the most preferred type among gay men, even if you claim it's not your preferred type.

Are you seriously Straight-splaining to a gay man what gay men like?

We are talking about GRINDr, not TINDr.

Most of us can deal without the fat-shaming fuckwads.

I know a number of fat women who enjoy fat men, too. Not every feeder/eater is one-or-the-other.

Besides, we're talking about gay men here. Alienating a core component of the day community (bears) is a bad move.

This thread isn’t about what people *do* like. It’s about what others think they *should* like.

 

[J842P]

Are you seriously Straight-splaining to a gay man what gay men like?

You are too smart to be this cliche.

 

[Arctish]

Are you seriously Straight-splaining to a gay man what gay men like?

We are talking about GRINDr, not TINDr.

Most of us can deal without the fat-shaming fuckwads.

I know a number of fat women who enjoy fat men, too. Not every feeder/eater is one-or-the-other.

Besides, we're talking about gay men here. Alienating a core component of the day community (bears) is a bad move.

This thread isn’t about what people *do* like. It’s about what others think they *should* like.

This thread is about a business decision Grindr made: Grindr says no to "No fatties, no femmes, no Asians"

The obvious reason Grindr doesn't want that sort of post is because it offends a lot of clients and that's bad for business.

Some folks take that as a denunciation of their sexual preferences, but unless their sexual orientation is 'bitch who gets off on being nasty ' I don't see how posting 'fitness strongly preferred' instead of 'no fatties' would make any difference to their chances of using the app successfully.

 

[dismal]

Are you seriously Straight-splaining to a gay man what gay men like?

We are talking about GRINDr, not TINDr.

Most of us can deal without the fat-shaming fuckwads.

I know a number of fat women who enjoy fat men, too. Not every feeder/eater is one-or-the-other.

Besides, we're talking about gay men here. Alienating a core component of the day community (bears) is a bad move.

This thread isn’t about what people *do* like. It’s about what others think they *should* like.

This thread is about a business decision Grindr made: Grindr says no to "No fatties, no femmes, no Asians"

The obvious reason Grindr doesn't want that sort of post is because it offends a lot of clients and that's bad for business.

Some folks take that as a denunciation of their sexual preferences, but unless their sexual orientation is 'bitch who gets off on being nasty ' I don't see how posting 'fitness strongly preferred' instead of 'no fatties' would make any difference to their chances of using the app successfully.

But it's not just about language. People are suggesting these sexual preferences are invalid. Feel free to go back and look. I'm sure you'll agree with me if you do.

And what is wrong language-wise with "no asians"? Do you consider "asian" a derogatory term? If so, I think that says a lot about the kind of person you are.

Also, I think from the OP onward absolutely fucking no one has suggested a that a private entity shouldn't be able to do this. Until someone actually argues they shouldn't you're wasting your breath battling that straw man. BTW welcome to the "a private entity shouldn't have to allow speech it doesn't agree with" club. I'm sure you'll stay consistent with this principle when someone tries to get a bakery to make a "no asians" cake. Cause some people here think bakeries should be forced to make cakes with messages they don't like.

 

[Arctish]

This thread is about a business decision Grindr made: Grindr says no to "No fatties, no femmes, no Asians"

The obvious reason Grindr doesn't want that sort of post is because it offends a lot of clients and that's bad for business.

Some folks take that as a denunciation of their sexual preferences, but unless their sexual orientation is 'bitch who gets off on being nasty ' I don't see how posting 'fitness strongly preferred' instead of 'no fatties' would make any difference to their chances of using the app successfully.

But it's not just about language. People are suggesting these sexual preferences are invalid. Feel free to go back and look. I'm sure you'll agree with me if you do.

I did go back and look. You're mistaken.

Several people have posted acknowledgment that everyone has their own particular sexual preferences and support them seeking out their preferred partners on sites like Grindr, including me. I haven't seen anyone disagree.

And what is wrong language-wise with "no asians"? Do you consider "asian" a derogatory term? If so, I think that says a lot about the kind of person you are.

'Asians' isn't a derogatory term, but 'no Asians' on a dating app is discriminatory and likely to be perceived as racist.

If you don't understand how offensive it can be, think about how 'no Jews' would appear to others. I'm sure you'll see the problem.

Also, I think from the OP onward absolutely fucking no one has suggested a that a private entity shouldn't be able to do this. Until someone actually argues they shouldn't you're wasting your breath battling that straw man.

Aside from the ones bitching about not being allowed to be bitchy on Grindr and moaning about how oppressed they are now that Grindr is 'woke'? You're right, no one else has an issue with it.

BTW welcome to the "a private entity shouldn't have to allow speech it doesn't agree with" club. I'm sure you'll stay consistent with this principle when someone tries to get a bakery to make a "no asians" cake. Cause some people here think bakeries should be forced to make cakes with messages they don't like.

I'm consistent but my take is a bit more nuanced.

 

[Metaphor]

Several people have posted acknowledgment that everyone has their own particular sexual preferences and support them seeking out their preferred partners on sites like Grindr, including me. I haven't seen anyone disagree.

Really? Because Jarhyn said he'd like to take a shit on people who took a hard no to a race in a sexual partner. I don't know that I'd call it "supportive". I'd say "hostile", actually.

'Asians' isn't a derogatory term, but 'no Asians' on a dating app is discriminatory and likely to be perceived as racist.

Sexual orientation is already discriminatory. We don't expect gay men to date women (well, lots of Islamic countries expect them to do so). Monosexuals-- that is, the vast majority of all human beings who have ever lived-- already have discriminatory preferences.

If you don't understand how offensive it can be, think about how 'no Jews' would appear to others. I'm sure you'll see the problem.

If someone is obsessed enough with hating Jews that they'll reject Jewish men for sex and advertise it, isn't it better that they advertise it?

Aside from the ones bitching about not being allowed to be bitchy on Grindr and moaning about how oppressed they are now that Grindr is 'woke'? You're right, no one else has an issue with it.

You'll have to name names. I can't see any responses that characterised it as "oppression".

 

[repoman]

What if they don't like heebie looks?

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Really? Because Jarhyn said he'd like to take a shit on people who took a hard no to a race in a sexual partner. I don't know that I'd call it "supportive". I'd say "hostile", actually.

My view, and I could be wrong, is that Jahryn does think they are awful but doesn't want to go so far as to say that people shouldn't be allowed to be bigots in matters of sexuality and romance. That is the argument made only be the very radical fringe of SJW, such as Riley J. Dennis.

 

[Metaphor]

Really? Because Jarhyn said he'd like to take a shit on people who took a hard no to a race in a sexual partner. I don't know that I'd call it "supportive". I'd say "hostile", actually.

My view, and I could be wrong, is that Jahryn does think they are awful but doesn't want to go so far as to say that people shouldn't be allowed to be bigots in matters of sexuality and romance. That is the argument made only be the very radical fringe of SJW, such as Riley J. Dennis.

I'd like Jarhyn to explain to me why I'm a bigot for putting a hard no on having sex with women, and why he is too.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. Shitr is for the kinky people seeking being pooped and peed on.

I have no problem taking a shit on people who place a hard no on race.

Sexual preferences can be rather specific. If that happens to mean that someone is not attracted to a certain race, so be it. That's not racism.

 

[dismal]

No. Shitr is for the kinky people seeking being pooped and peed on.

I have no problem taking a shit on people who place a hard no on race.

Sexual preferences can be rather specific. If that happens to mean that someone is not attracted to a certain race, so be it. That's not racism.

The important thing to remember is that when someone says they want to shit on someone because of their sexual preferences it should not be considered a denunciation of those preferences or in any way an attempt to shun or silence someone with the "incorrect" sexual preferences, because everyone here is against that.

 

[repoman]

Somehow I just got reminded of a white contestant in Flavor of Love who said to "I want a brown baby" next to a dark skinned ladies. Their reaction was funny.

Cant find the clip.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Sexual preferences can be rather specific. If that happens to mean that someone is not attracted to a certain race, so be it. That's not racism.

The important thing to remember is that when someone says they want to shit on someone because of their sexual preferences it should not be considered a denunciation of those preferences or in any way an attempt to shun or silence someone with the "incorrect" sexual preferences, because everyone here is against that.

Thankfully everyone here is against that. We're a bunch of Neanderthal bigots though. Might as well vote for Trump if you have dating preferences, at least according to some...

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