Harvard Rescinds Admission To Conservative Kyle Kashuv Over Private Racist Remarks He Wrote At 16

[laughing dog]

Also, note the following that the poor conservative wrote:
"I have recently been made aware of screenshots circulating that include offensive comments former classmates and I made a few years ago..."

It's about consistency. I doubt Harvard is denying admission to black students caught making offensive comments years earlier.

That type of hypothetical "whatboutism" does not reflect on the target but the utterer.

 

[Politesse]

Part of becoming an adult in the post Millennial world is understanding that 1.) there's not much tolerance for overtly genocidal or pro-mass-shooting sympathies in the public sector these days 2.) the internet never forgets.

He wasn't an adult when he said it.

But he was 16 so maybe that's plenty old enough. How young would you extend this? 14? 10? Is 7 too young? How about 5?

Again, how is a college supposed to make an admissions decision on any basis other than what the candidate did in the final years of their minority? Or should virtues alone be considered?

Also again, I think this was more about image than morality. Harvard University is hardly the ethical center of the nation; rather, they saw potential for bad publicity and responded the way any business would.

 

[Half-Life]

Also, note the following that the poor conservative wrote:
"I have recently been made aware of screenshots circulating that include offensive comments former classmates and I made a few years ago..."

It's about consistency. I doubt Harvard is denying admission to black students caught making offensive comments years earlier.

That type of hypothetical "whatboutism" does not reflect on the target but the utterer.

On an unrelated note, I remember a black guy years ago on CNN who was literally saying, "We need to exterminate all white people. This is the only way we can solve all the world's problems. Whites need to go." A lot of white people and leftists were defending him saying he's not a racist.

So, take that into consideration as well. I am more than willing to bet that a few black students said hateful racists things in the past that Harvard ignored just to meet the black quota.

 

[Politesse]

I note that I somehow made it through my own junior year of high school without advocating that anyone ought to, in Kashuv's words, "Kill all the fucking jews." or "fucking make a CSOG map of Douglas and practice"; if such a thing were lurking in my recent past, I would not be surprised if it cost me a college admission later, genuinely regretful though I might be. Upset, sure, but not surprised, and I would know it was hopeless to try and fight it. What's he gonna do, sue to gain entrance? They'd eat him alive as a student just as surely.

Part of becoming an adult in the post Millennial world is understanding that 1.) there's not much tolerance for overtly genocidal or pro-mass-shooting sympathies in the public sector these days 2.) the internet never forgets.

Yeah, not being smart enough to figure out that shit like that wouldn't fly at Harvard is pretty much all he should have needed to know he wouldn't fly at Harvard. But then, Dunning Kruger and all.

Oh, the kid is plenty smart... he'll be a media figure for years. Much more valuable social currency than a degree from Harvard in this post-intellectual age.

 

[Derec]

That type of hypothetical "whatboutism" does not reflect on the target but the utterer.

Seeking consistency is not whataboutism.

 

[Derec]

Harvard is just fine with anti-white racism.
Abolish the White Race

Debater At Harvard Says White People Should Kill Themselves Because Of Their White Privilege

 

[ZiprHead]

I haven't seen the posts, but I don't have a big problem with this in general.

Their school, their rules.

The Daily Wire (Shapiro, Knowles, Klavan, Walsh) is steaming mad about this.

No one cares.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Harvard is just fine with anti-white racism.
Abolish the White Race

Debater At Harvard Says White People Should Kill Themselves Because Of Their White Privilege

But Derec, that's "positive" racial discrimination because it's against white people. And it's counteracts discrimination against minorities so it's immoral to oppose it. Don't you know that white people abused minorities for centuries????11! [/Illiberal]

 

[Politesse]

Debater At Harvard Says White People Should Kill Themselves Because Of Their White Privilege

Uh, Harvard disavowed that. Isn't that what you're upset about them doing to this kid?

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump supporters are now boycotting Harvard. Luckily no students will be affected.

 

[Politesse]

Trump supporters are now boycotting Harvard. Luckily no students will be affected.

I don't think they're smart enough to engineer a boycott that would significantly hurt Harvard's business interests. It could be done, but not by idiots; you'd need to take aim at their endowment, not their student body. 4 Billion dollars... most nation states would be lucky to have such a parachute. Ironically, it would be very difficult to ruin Harvard without also ruining the Republican Party at the same time, as you'd have to target many of the same companies and individuals that keep it afloat as well.

 

[laughing dog]

That type of hypothetical "whatboutism" does not reflect on the target but the utterer.

On an unrelated note, I remember a black guy years ago on CNN who was literally saying, "We need to exterminate all white people. This is the only way we can solve all the world's problems. Whites need to go." A lot of white people and leftists were defending him saying he's not a racist.

So, take that into consideration as well. I am more than willing to bet that a few black students said hateful racists things in the past that Harvard ignored just to meet the black quota.

I have no doubt that you are willing to make that bet.

 

[laughing dog]

That type of hypothetical "whatboutism" does not reflect on the target but the utterer.

Seeking consistency is not whataboutism.

Using handwaved hypothetical is not seeking consistency.

 

[laughing dog]

Harvard is just fine with anti-white racism.
Abolish the White Race

Do you even bother to read your citations? This article is not about abolishing the "biological white race". Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Part of becoming an adult in the post Millennial world is understanding that 1.) there's not much tolerance for overtly genocidal or pro-mass-shooting sympathies in the public sector these days 2.) the internet never forgets.

He wasn't an adult when he said it.

But he was 16 so maybe that's plenty old enough. How young would you extend this? 14? 10? Is 7 too young? How about 5?

Again, how is a college supposed to make an admissions decision on any basis other than what the candidate did in the final years of their minority? Or should virtues alone be considered?

Also again, I think this was more about image than morality. Harvard University is hardly the ethical center of the nation; rather, they saw potential for bad publicity and responded the way any business would.

I noticed you didn't answer my question. Is any age too young to hold what they said against them in college admissions? If so, what age?

 

[ZiprHead]

Again, how is a college supposed to make an admissions decision on any basis other than what the candidate did in the final years of their minority? Or should virtues alone be considered?

Also again, I think this was more about image than morality. Harvard University is hardly the ethical center of the nation; rather, they saw potential for bad publicity and responded the way any business would.

I noticed you didn't answer my question. Is any age too young to hold what they said against them in college admissions? If so, what age?

What would you think about someone who, just a little more than a year prior, said all orientals and far east asians are rice-niggers?

 

[Politesse]

Again, how is a college supposed to make an admissions decision on any basis other than what the candidate did in the final years of their minority? Or should virtues alone be considered?

Also again, I think this was more about image than morality. Harvard University is hardly the ethical center of the nation; rather, they saw potential for bad publicity and responded the way any business would.

I noticed you didn't answer my question. Is any age too young to hold what they said against them in college admissions? If so, what age?

I don't think Harvard was in the moral right to begin with.

But if it comes up in the admissions process at all, it seems very likely to be considered regardless of the age at which it was said. Admission to an Ivy League School is not and never has been a fair or ethical process. As a side note, I would be very concerned if a seven year old expressed a desire to shoot up a school or kill all members of an ethnic group.

 

[Horatio Parker]

Trump supporters are now boycotting Harvard. Luckily no students will be affected.

I don't think they're smart enough to engineer a boycott that would significantly hurt Harvard's business interests. It could be done, but not by idiots; you'd need to take aim at their endowment, not their student body. 4 Billion dollars... most nation states would be lucky to have such a parachute. Ironically, it would be very difficult to ruin Harvard without also ruining the Republican Party at the same time, as you'd have to target many of the same companies and individuals that keep it afloat as well.

If you want to hit Harvard in the pocketbook, put Larry Summers in charge of their endowment.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Again, how is a college supposed to make an admissions decision on any basis other than what the candidate did in the final years of their minority? Or should virtues alone be considered?

Also again, I think this was more about image than morality. Harvard University is hardly the ethical center of the nation; rather, they saw potential for bad publicity and responded the way any business would.

I noticed you didn't answer my question. Is any age too young to hold what they said against them in college admissions? If so, what age?

What would you think about someone who, just a little more than a year prior, said all orientals and far east asians are rice-niggers?

I notice this also isn't an answer to my question.

And rice niggers? Honestly? I wouldn't take them seriously and would laugh at them. This is the best you can come up with?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

What would you think about someone who, just a little more than a year prior, said all orientals and far east asians are rice-niggers?

I notice this also isn't an answer to my question.

And rice niggers? Honestly? I wouldn't take them seriously and would laugh at them. This is the best you can come up with?

I guess you never met my Republican in-laws.